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       New Kitcheneers?
       By: habiTat Date: November 22, 2013, 2:53 pm
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       Hey fellow mods  ;D
       I was wondering if anyone had invited Boydie yet? He's a really
       good guy and a great contributor, I wonder if someone maybe had
       already invited him but he was staying loyal to Tone, being a
       mod and all...
       Any other ideas for people to invite? Schav was an inspired
       idea, whoever invited him  :)
       Also, who are we NOT inviting? Tina, STC, Saeed?  :D
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       Re: New Kitcheneers?
       By: Wicked Deeds Date: November 22, 2013, 3:10 pm
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       Hey John,
       That's a tough call.  I don't know Boydie very well.  It might
       be little bit awkward for him to accept as he is a mod on tone's
       forum.  I'm tempted to think he might feel uneasy about an
       offer.   I'd invite tone if I  thought he'd join though again,
       I'm tempted to think he wouldn't (he's also exactly the sort of
       member we need).  Nooms is a member and I'm a little surprised
       that he accepted my invite as he's also a mod over at tone's
       place.  I thought he too might feel uneasy about joining. I
       asked him because we got to know each other very well through
       our collaborations (we've almost written a full album together).
       In a nutshell, I haven't got a clue about your question John!
       ???
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       Re: New Kitcheneers?
       By: habiTat Date: November 22, 2013, 4:50 pm
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       Cheers Paul, I think  :D :D :D
       Maybe I should message him, see what he says, it'd be great to
       have him on board.
       Other people to consider...
       James Nighthawk?
       Ramshackles?
       thoughts?
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       Re: New Kitcheneers?
       By: Wicked Deeds Date: November 23, 2013, 4:05 am
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       Good morning John,
       I think it's just you and I again on this frequented mini forum.
       I'm open to everyone's suggestions and will be happy to go with
       whatever admin and mods desire.  What I will say is that I don't
       want the kitchen to be populated solely by member's from tone's
       forum so I'm reluctant to invite the suggested members.
       I will share some of my ideas and know I'm not alone in holding
       them. I've invited only a couple of members from tone's place.
       My reasoning is that I was dissatisfied with the dynamics that
       existed there.  I'm all for sharing advice and having a pool of
       well informed members. That existed to some extent over at
       tone's but also I felt at times that it was a little stilted and
       intimidating to post songs.  I have over 30 years experience as
       a musician and still, that's exactly how I felt - I've had
       reviews that focused on technical aspects of my production
       rather than songwriting. I sometimes felt that the advice was
       given more to illustrate a members knowledge of production
       rather than to offer help to a fellow songwriter.
       Equally, I didn't agree with the rules about frequency of
       posting which some members including moderators wanted to
       implement.  I think new songs, whether they be from mods, admin,
       or other forum contributors are the lifeblood of a good forum
       and therefore, I want a forum that allows members to post
       freely.
       I'd love to see forum members increase in number and believe
       we'll see that happen over time.  It's difficult trying to see
       how at the moment but they eventually will.  It's difficult to
       be patient but I think that's what needed. Can I suggest we
       should review this every 2- 4 weeks?  If we think the situation
       needs to be addressed, the  we can all suggest and discuss
       ideas.  We might regard this post as the first
       review/discussion!  I also think that it is imperative that
       admin and mods are open and discus freely their opinions on this
       mini forum.  That will help promote a harmonious team/forum.
       Thoughts please chaps?
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       Re: New Kitcheneers?
       By: habiTat Date: November 23, 2013, 5:26 am
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       Hi Paul,
       You make some good points and it seems you've thought more
       deeply about the Kitchen than I have.  :)
       You are right in what you say, the production critique and the
       posting limits at Tone's can be restrictive and intimidating. I
       messaged Boydie last night because I do value his balanced views
       and I get on well with him, time will tell if he chooses to
       join. I take your point about the other suggestions though, and
       I agree we want to build a different environment in The Kitchen,
       that's why you guys created it.  :)
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       Re: New Kitcheneers?
       By: Kafla Date: November 23, 2013, 9:39 am
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       Don't worry Habi if you have sent the invite  ;)
       I am joining a few Facebook songwriting portals and I am going
       to try and promote the kitchen
       It will take time but I honestly think over time it will become
       amazing  :D
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       Re: New Kitcheneers?
       By: D Date: November 24, 2013, 7:10 am
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       yes, let's not give up, we will get there
       most important will be to have good material on there, so i mean
       new songs from Kafla, Wicked, Habitat and also the Nomads?????
       i love the kitchen, i am a kitcheneer
       better put: Ich bin ein Kitcheneer, perhaps we should have
       t-shirts made of that, so some kitchen marketing goodies for new
       members  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
       and yes, i am serious, i am always serious but everybody thinks
       i am not  ;D ;D ;D
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