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American people do not want a MIC supporting creature of Wall
Street. I am the only 🕊️🗽 option.
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: December 19, 2023, 6:42 pm
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TRUTHDIG
DEC 18, 2023 TD INTERVIEW
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Green Party presidential candidate [glow=blue,2,300]Jill
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[center]‘The Way Things Are Going, 😈 Biden Is Going to
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[center]The [glow=blue,2,300]Green Party candidate[/glow] on
democracy, climate change, Ukraine, why Democrats need to
scapegoat left-wing “spoilers” and that night in Moscow the
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Let’s start with the current political mood and situation. Trump
is leading his challengers and Biden in the polls. Democrats are
nervous and looking anxiously to the courts. Meanwhile, a lot of
usual suspects are issuing the perennial warnings about third
party candidates. Dick Gephardt, after two decades working as a
lobbyist, has popped up as the face of a new group, Citizens to
Save Our Republic, that is buying ads across the country to
caution voters against the siren songs of third-party campaigns
— or they will help elect Trump. There are similar rumblings on
the left, including in quarters that believe Democrats should
win or lose on their own merits. What do you say to those who
are otherwise receptive and sympathetic to the Green Party
platform and critique, but also believe conditions demand a
united front behind the Democrat, given the unique threat they
believe a second Trump administration poses to the remaining
institutions and norms of what passes for American democracy, as
degraded as they may be?
JILL STEIN: The way it’s going, Biden is going to lose on his
own, even without third parties. The fact that we are being
smeared and targeted reflects the Democrats’ vulnerability and
failure to address their loss of support. It’s a fallacy that
Greens and other progressive candidates take votes away from
Democrats. Largely what we’re doing is bringing people out. In
2016, we received 1.4 million votes, but seven million
Democratic votes crossed over for Trump. The bigger problem was
the 100 million voters who didn’t come out at all. Marginalized
constituents, youth, the poor. That’s who the Democrats ought to
be talking to. That’s who’s being left out here. The argument
that we’re spoiling the election is extremely disingenuous as
well as anti-democratic.
TD: It’s also one that could be eliminated by rank-choice
voting.
JS: Yes, it could. But what do the Democrats do? They fight-rank
choice voting tooth and nail.
TD: Do you agree with the assessment that Trump represents a
unique threat this time around? Does the lesser-of-two-evils
argument carry more power than usual in 2024?
JS: I think the Democrats also pose very serious threats to
democracy, including throwing competition off the ballot. That’s
pretty authoritarian right there. They have their own way of
undermining the integrity of our elections. They hijack their
own primaries. They don’t even make a pretense. Democrats are
leading the charge in the attack on free speech, freedom of the
press, the right to protest. Democratic administrations accuse
environmental protesters of terrorism and threaten them with
decades in jail. The Republicans don’t have a stranglehold on
threats to our democracy. The Democrats are also leading us into
very dangerous wars that could turn nuclear quickly. I don’t
think that’s less of a threat to the survival of our democracy.
TD: We’ll get to those wars in a minute. How do you assess the
difference between the major parties on, say, climate and
energy?
JS: If you look behind the numbers, the high-ground claimed by
the Democrats is dubious. Biden is proceeding full speed ahead
with 22 Liquified Natural Gas export facilities. Just one of
them, in Louisiana, represents something like 20 times more CO2
than the Willow oil project in the Alaskan Arctic. The amount of
carbon associated with these plants is off the charts. But those
numbers are conveniently taken off the books so they don’t count
in our country’s carbon footprint. If you include them, we have
made zero progress since 2005. Nature doesn’t care about
renewable energy if carbon is still being produced. That’s why
we urgently need a Global Green New Deal.
TD: You’ve talked about how a Global Green New Deal was the
centerpiece of your trip to Moscow in December of 2015. Because
that event still gets invoked in a superficial way, I’m curious
about the backstory and politics of that trip, and especially
the Russia Today dinner that your critics love to trot out as
some kind of “gotcha” moment.
The whole premise of the “Putin puppet” smear was always
ludicrous, but they’re still using it, even after the Senate
Intelligence Committee laid it to rest.
JS: The visit to Moscow was part of a longer trip that included
the Climate Summit in Paris, where I met with Jeremy Corbyn,
China’s deputy lead negotiator on climate, and grassroots
activists from around the world. Putin had just begun bombing
Syria at the time, and my message to him was that they were
following the disastrous U.S. approach to the Middle East. The
day of the dinner, I delivered a speech at a conference in
Moscow about the need for U.S.-Russia collaboration on climate
change, ending the scourge of nuclear weapons and ending the war
in the Middle East. I was putting out a peace proposal.
TD: Sounds like standard two-track peace diplomacy.
JS: Yes. My interest in this [type of diplomacy] began when I
was a pre-med student in Boston. My adviser brought me to a
meeting of International Physicians for the Prevention of
Nuclear War and I was just fascinated by it. I met visiting
Russian scientists and I thought it was amazing and powerful and
wonderful. Ordinary people, using their expertise, working to
overcome the danger and the threat of nuclear war. A little
later, Physicians for Social Responsibility was awarded the
Nobel Peace Prize for their work around nuclear arms treaties.
That model was very much on my mind when I decided to go to
Russia. Contact between everyday people can help push the
envelope.
TD: Together with the doctor and physicist groups, Mr. Rogers
also went to Moscow during the Cold War. But you were branded a
little differently.
The accusation that I was a “Putin puppet” ramified all the way
up to a Senate Intelligence Committee investigation. It went on
for years, cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. What the
Committee came up with was a big “Thank you so much for your
full cooperation.” They concluded there was nothing untoward or
inappropriate whatsoever. The whole thing was completely above
board and transparent from the get-go. We announced what we
would be doing, how we were paying for it, who we planned to
meet with. Our objectives were to advocate for a nuclear-weapons
ban and a Global Green New Deal. The whole premise of the “Putin
puppet” smear was always ludicrous, but they’re still using it,
even after the Senate Intelligence Committee laid it to rest.
TD: Before we leave the subject, what was the chit chat like at
the table? In pictures, everyone looks a little stiff and
awkward.
It was awkward because the only English speaker within earshot
of me was Willy Wimmer, a Defense Ministry official in the
German government at the time of German reunification, who later
became vice president of the Organization for Security and
Cooperation in Europe. Putin walked in with these three
strapping muscular guys and sat down for maybe 10 or 15 minutes.
There was zero contact. There were some really interesting
people in the room, including Gorbachev, entirely on the peace
side of the equation. When I saw Michael Flynn, who wasn’t yet
associated with the Trump campaign, I wondered, “What’s this
weird military guy doing here?” I gave him my elevator speech
about peace and the climate, and he did not relate in the least.
That conversation was over in 60 seconds. It wasn’t my ideal
meal because I’m a vegetarian and don’t drink, so I just picked
around the margins. But the entertainment was excellent. The
Russian military chorus was amazing.
TD: The Russian military chorus seems a good segue to the
situation in Ukraine, which at the time of the dinner was still
simmering. Going back further, the conflict arguably tracks to
the first round of NATO expansion in 1998, around the time the
Green Party began getting organized in the U.S.
JS: Let’s go back farther. In 1991, The New York Times published
leaks from the Pentagon, possibly intentional, that amounted to
the first declaration of what’s now known as “full-spectrum
dominance” — the idea that Washington will not allow any power
to rise, even reasonably, to command the resources of any
region, let alone become a global competitor. At that point, it
was clear that we were going to ensure that Russia did not
reestablish itself as a regional power. The rest is the logical
derivative of that. The current conflict in Ukraine is very much
the outflow of the position we adopted towards Russia at that
time.
TD: How should the U.S. be pushing toward a diplomatic solution
to the current war, and more generally de-escalating tensions
with Russia so we can get arms control back on track?
JS: There is a pretty good prototype in the Minsk Accords, with
slight variations, that Russia agreed to. Leading up to war,
Russia was not asking to annex, or even supporting, the eastern
provinces that wanted to break away from Ukraine. Russia was
resisting that. It’s just false to say that Russia had all these
designs. The agreement Russia proposed was basically neutrality
for Ukraine along an Austria model. It should have been a
no-brainer. Russia again offered that agreement before it
invaded, which was criminal and has been a humanitarian
disaster. But we could have averted it. We could have prevented
this whole war.
More recently, there were widely reported negotiations [in
Istanbul], confirmed by a high-ranking official in the Zelensky
administration, by Gerhard Schroeder from Germany, and by
Naftali Bennett of Israel. They have all said that Russia had
basically signed on to this agreement that included no NATO
admission for Ukraine and a future negotiation on Crimea. There
was a really great deal that could have put an end to all of
this. Instead, we have basically condemned an entire generation
of Ukrainians to death and disability. It’s shameful that we
have been purposefully thwarting a negotiation process. We have
to get out of the way. It’s not just in Ukraine. According to
the Congressional Research Service, we have intervened
militarily 250 times in the past 30 years. This is what we do.
This is who we are. We are acting like a unipolar power in a
multipolar world and it is impoverishing us as a nation. It is
also endangering all of us with the growing potential for
nuclear confrontation on multiple fronts.
TD: One of these fronts is the Middle East, where as you’ve
noted, last month we sent an Ohio class nuclear submarine. What
would a sound U.S. policy be vis a vis Israel and the occupied
territories?
JS: We need to use our influence to require everybody inside of
Palestine as well as Israel to abide by international law. It’s
not like we have to invent the solution. Barring the law of
nations, what do we have?
TD: Have you noticed younger volunteers approaching the party at
the state level because of Washington’s ironclad support for
Israel and opposition to global calls for a ceasefire?
JS: Oh, absolutely. We are not in touch with what’s going on
inside the books of the state Green parties — we’re required to
be separate by law — but our campaign is the ultimate litmus
test of that. It’s huge.
TD: Let’s talk about Green party activists at the state and
local level. I was struck by an interview you did with
Pacifica’s Ann Garrison, in which you discussed your sense of
obligation to the decades of work by local Green party
volunteers to gain and maintain ballot access in dozens of
states. How is your campaign related to the Green presidential
campaigns going back to the first in 1996?
JS: If you sit an election out, people will turn over, and you
also won’t have the option of automatically qualifying if you
reach the threshold in that state. You have to use [ballot
lines] or you lose them.
TD: Can you talk a little about the work that goes into gaining
ballot access, and the obstacles that exist to deter third
parties, many dating to the original Red Scare under Woodrow
Wilson?
JS: There are 50 different sets of rules in 50 states and it’s a
moving minefield. We’re not meant to understand ballot access.
You can spend huge amounts of money, and then make some simple
little error, or not even make an error, and be tripped up by
the design of the system. The reason Green candidates have to go
to court so often is because they’ll try to catch us on
technicalities and get us thrown off. Sometimes they succeed,
because the courts are political. There is all kinds of
administrative red tape, burdens and rules attached to the
process to keep you off, arbitrary means of silencing democratic
competition.
TD: And in many cases the whole process has to be relearned and
repeated every four years…
JS: Unless you have achieved the percent of the vote required by
the state for appearing on the [next] ballot, yes. It may be as
low as 1%, or even half a percent, but it can also be
substantially more. Offhand, I’d say the average is three to 5%.
If you haven’t reached the threshold, you have to repeat the
petition process. But you have to begin by collecting way more
than the requirement. If people use a messy signature, or they
leave out their middle initial, they will often use this as a
reason to strike that signature. And the numbers change. In New
York, Cuomo was pissed and threatened when the Greens did well
in the gubernatorial race. So unbeknownst to the public, he
snuck an increased requirement in some budget bill totally
unrelated to ballots and elections. New York Democrats increased
the requirement from 30,000 signatures to 45,000 in six weeks.
This is really hard for volunteers.
TD: And unlike astro-turf parties like, say, No Labels, the
Greens rely on volunteers…
JS: You need very deep pockets if you’re going to pay
petitioners. The Green Party relies on volunteers who know the
rules and the requirements for their state. They’re usually very
good at watchdogging the requirements, and they know the
[neighborhoods] with high validation rates and cultures of
demanding democracy, of refusing to be thrown off the ballot.
Still, this is probably the single most difficult hurdle in
front of us. We do not currently have ballot access in New York,
due to the outcome of the last election.
TD: How many ballot lines met previous state thresholds?
JS: We’re building up to 20 carryover states — no small feat. We
have 80% of signatures for the remaining states. It’s highly
likely that we are going to be on the ballot in just about every
state.
TD: Can you talk about the typical Green party canvasser and
organizer? Would you described them as hard core lifelong
democracy activists, or issue advocates who’ve been mugged by
the Democratic party, or —
JS: They tend to be grounded in social movements and community
fights. Rent control, stopping evictions or a pipeline,
protecting a water supply. Greens believe in political struggle,
and you don’t need a party to fight between elections. Most of
those of us who’ve moved into the political fight — and I count
myself as one of those — spent lives fighting for substantive
change. Health care as a human right. Closing down coal plants.
Promoting renewable energy and clean air. We tend to be very
pragmatic and practical. We know how you stop people with
petitions in a nice and friendly way as they’re coming out of
the store. What is your stop line? How do you start up a
conversation?
People who focus on issues [eventually] realize that you can
only go so far as an advocate. Political allies have lots of
ways of leading you around by the nose and then cutting you off.
When the bill is about to be voted on, a clause is changed that
throws away five years of hard work. At the end of the day, it
becomes a political fight. No matter how much you want to avoid
it, you have to challenge political power. I joined the Green
Party because we were being betrayed right and left by 🐍
Democrats who pretended to be our 😇 friends
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TD: Is there a betrayal that sticks out from your years as an
activist in your home state of Massachusetts?
JS: We got money out of politics in Massachusetts. We passed
Clean Elections, which required public funding of elections, and
it was betrayed by Democrats on a voice vote. They repealed it
after it passed a voter referendum two-to-one. That was the last
straw for me. I decided this has to be a political battle. I was
recruited to run for office having no idea what I was getting
into. That’s true for lots of greens.
In my first campaign, for governor of Massachusetts in 2002, we
fought our way into a televised debate where I put forward
health care as a human right, free public higher education,
demilitarization, green jobs, et cetera. It went over like a
lead balloon inside the debate studio. But when I walked out of
the studio, I was mobbed by the press. An instant online viewer
poll showed I won the night. That was the last time I was
allowed into a televised debate.
TD: Let’s talk about something in the Green platform that would
be very difficult to address in a televised debate, even if you
were given the opportunity. This is Section 5a of the Economic
Justice and Sustainability section, which recognizes there is “a
fundamental conflict between economic growth and environmental
protection.” This is a significant break not only with
bipartisan consensus, but with most of the U.S. left, which
shares a paradigm focused on ever-increasing production and
consumption as measured by gross domestic product, despite
evidence that growth is an ecological poison pill that can never
be “greened.” How do you even begin to have this conversation
with normal people worried about making rent and putting food on
the table?
JS: This is a very challenging conversation. The limits of
growth need to be addressed. It is not a case that we have to
shut down growth immediately. But I would say that people get
very attached to material comforts as a way to make up for
communities and relationships. It’s why fixing our democracy and
fixing [the planet] have to go forward together. We’re going to
learn a lot in the next couple of years as the climate really
hits the fan with drought, food supply, and especially, sea
level rise. The Thwaites Glacier is losing its shelf, which acts
as a break on two feet worth of sea level rise. It’s important
that we be honest about what’s happening, so that we can make
informed decisions as a society.
The American people are asking for someone who’s not a creature
of Wall Street and in the war machine. If you’re looking for
that, we’re likely to be the only option.
Most people don’t even know that we are at the precipice of some
very staggering impacts. The Colorado River is about to shut
down — whether it’s a year or five years — and that river
supplies the water for California agriculture, which supplies
half the fruits and vegetables for the country. And let’s be
clear, the Democrats are creating a boondoggle for green
industries that is not going to help the climate problem. You
can say, well, it lays the groundwork for being able to pull
back on fossil fuels, and that’s true. But we need to come clean
and have an honest conversation about what’s actually going on
right now. The Inflation Reduction Act is a fossil fuels first
act. It’s a nuclear power act. That’s where we have to begin.
And from there, things become possible. People do not trust the
climate movement. They can smell a rat. And I don’t mean the
grassroots climate movement, the frontline communities. I mean
Bill Gates, the World Economic Forum, the high rolling,
politically correct types with Teslas and private jets.
TD: A lot of people focus on the Green party once every four
years, only to excoriate it. But the party is active in local
elections and the work is year-round. What goes on at the local
and state levels when most people aren’t paying attention?
JS: We’ve run thousands of candidates at the local level. I
think we’ve elected 128 officials. There’s a fairly high rate of
success for local Green candidates. They don’t get covered much,
but they’re there. Mayors. State legislators. In Massachusetts,
we have Greens chairing their municipal select boards, their
library boards. We just elected an Afro-Latinx immigrant to the
school committee in Holyoke, Massachusetts, which is a very poor
community. We have local officials working on land-use planning,
fighting for rent control — the whole spectrum of grassroots
democracy at the community level. We work to expand these
efforts [while] constantly fighting on a tilted playing field.
We face smear campaigns and get locked out of the press. We are
the guys that their COINTELPRO type programs have not been able
to eliminate. Most independent third parties in this country
don’t last 10 years. The Peace and Freedom Party is probably one
of the most long-lasting, they were established sometime in the
’60s —
TD: Eldridge Cleaver headed their first ticket in ’68, I think.
JS: Right — and they grew from there into a national presence.
At one point, they had access to ballots in 15 or 20 states. Now
they live in one state: California. They’ve been beaten back.
Around the same time the Greens were established, the brilliant
labor activist Tony Mazaki, who was also an environmental health
and occupational justice guy, established the Labor Party. They
had money and an institutional base, but they folded because
they could never get past the “spoiler” issue. So, they died.
We’re all vilified for being spoilers. Even though the actual
spoilers are the parties themselves who fail to really compete
and fight for their base, which is why their base is walking
away. That’s the problem, not progressives running for office.
But that’s the way the public mythology goes. So, we’re vilified
constantly in the press or locked out.
TD: What’s changed between the first Green ticket in 1996 and
2024?
JS: What’s different is we’ve got a lot more unhappy campers.
People are done being thrown under the bus. Half of renters are
paying 30% or more for housing. In some places like New York
City, the average rent is 68% of the average income. People are
swamped in debt. We are in a political rebellion, and Greens are
perfectly positioned right now to support this rebellion. I have
found very few people, no matter where they are on the political
spectrum, who have not had a complete loss of faith in our
political institutions, in the parties of war and Wall Street.
We’re in an incredible learning moment right now. For us to
proceed with a really honest conversation has enormous potential
to help us come together.
TD: Last question. Do you have capsule opinions on your fellow
“spoilers” in 2024?
JS: I will just say that I greatly sympathize with the plight of
people fighting within the Democratic Party, but it’s hard to
have a revolution inside of a counter revolutionary party. For
those trying to do this outside of the Democratic Party, it’s
difficult to get on ballots, even if you have money. As for the
Libertarian Party and No Labels, they take corporate money and
may be able to buy their way onto ballots, but that’s not who
the American people are asking for.
The American people are asking for someone who’s not a creature
of Wall Street and in the war machine. If you’re looking for
that, we’re likely to be the only option. What compelled me to
run was not only to ensure our ballot access would not go to
waste, but also because it was highly likely the Green candidate
would be the only pro-worker, anti-war, climate-action option.
Either we were going to provide that, or it wasn’t going to be
there. It was just unconscionable to me, to us, not to [provide]
that at a time when the ship is going down. I know there are a
lot of people who don’t understand why I’m running. But if you
understand the life and death importance of fighting back
against the [glow=maroon,2,300]existential crises[/glow] we
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Does The West Truly Believe In Moral Superiority? They
𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐋𝐄
𝐎𝐍
𝐌𝟎𝐑𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐓𝐘!
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: January 12, 2024, 2:56 pm
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[center]January 8, 2024 Alastair Crooke: They
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𝐌𝟎𝐑𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐓𝐘
In Gaza. Does The
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AGelbert COMMENT:
It's the [glow=maroon,2,300]Social Darwinism[/glow]!
The ROOT cause of Oligarchic Tyranny, now Brazenly Accelerating
the Human "civilization" Extinction Train, is the socially
destructive ideology of SOCIAL DARWINISM:
Social Darwinists believe that ethics based principles are
'limitations pretending to be virtues'. To them, ethics are
'feel good illusions' that humans invented to pretend our
species has empathy. To Social Darwinists, empathy is
irrefutable evidence of inexcusable weakness. To them, all who
are guided by ethics are deluded fools that should be eliminated
from the human 'apex predator' gene pool for the "good" of our
species.
Enthusiastic converts to Social Darwinism have, to this day,
used the language of evolution to frame an understanding of the
growing gulf between the rich and the poor, as well as the many
differences between cultures all over the world. The explanation
they arrived at, and continue to use to justify biosphere
trashing profit over people and planet, regardless of any
alligator tear filled mendacious claims to the contrary, is that
businessmen and others who are economically and socially
successful are so because they are biologically and socially
“naturally” the fittest. Conversely, they reason that the poor
are “naturally” weak and unfit and it would be an error to allow
the weak of the species to continue to breed.
The ideology of the Social Darwinist is indistinguishable from
the despicable ideology of NAZI Germany, clearly exemplified in
their brutally enforced morally bankrupt concentration camp law:
“Eat your own bread, and if you can, that of your neighbor.” The
"Apex Predators have a DARWINIAN RESPONSIBILITY to BE as
PREDATORILY EVOLVED (SEE: Steal everything that is not nailed
down.) as possible" WORLDVIEW is the socially destructive
tsunami now engulfing human society.
What all the entrenched insiders among the parasitic, predatory
(i.e. Social Darwinist) elites and institutions don't dare admit
publicly, though they celebrate that privately, is that to
protect themselves from consequence, making the rest of us
sacrifice everything else is what they-the-Apex-Predators have a
DARWINIAN DUTY to DO.
Frugality and prudence, once accepted by all human cultures as
sine qua non, has given way to massive excess by TPTB (and too
many of the, brainwashed by the "education system", non-rich
populace) and a level of craziness in culture that ethical
humans never imagined they would experience.
Our species is on a track to extinction BECAUSE of TPTB's TOTAL
embrace of the morally bankrupt SOCIAL DARWINIST IDEOLOGY.
TPTB, blatantly self-serving, corrupt, unaccountable and devoid
of any sense of good and evil, will be our doom if they are not
stopped.
It's NOT "the economy, stupid!" It's the
[glow=maroon,2,300]Social Darwinism[/glow]
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Cornel West on Capitalism, Ukraine, and his Presidential Run |
The Chris Hedges Report
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Cornel West [/glow]on [glow=red,2,300]Capitalism[/glow],
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🦍 Fighting Russia & China to Last American:
Destroying US From 💵🎩😈🍌 Within
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From 💵🎩😈🍌
[glow=red,2,300]Within[/glow][/center]
[center][glow=blue,2,300]Dr. Jill Stein[/glow]
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Jill Stein[/glow] -
I'm running for president with the Green Party to offer a choice
for the people outside the failed two-party system. We'll put a
pro-worker, anti-war, climate action agenda front and center in
this election and on the ballot in November.
jillstein2024.com
🕯️🗽 Michael Hudson is President of The
Institute for the Study of Long-Term Economic Trends (ISLET), a
Wall Street Financial Analyst, Distinguished Research Professor
of Economics at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. He is
the author of Super-Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of
American Empire (Editions 1968, 2003, 2021), ‘and forgive them
their debts’ (2018), J is for Junk Economics (2017), Killing the
Host (2015), The Bubble and Beyond (2012), Trade, Development
and Foreign Debt (1992 & 2009) and of The Myth of Aid (1971),
amongst many others.
ISLET engages in research regarding domestic and international
finance, national income and balance-sheet accounting with
regard to real estate. We also engage in the economic history of
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Michael acts as an economic advisor to governments worldwide
including China, Iceland and Latvia on finance and tax law. He
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"Rather than trying to tell people how to live, we should
make it possible for people to be ABLE to live!
DIR By: AGelbert
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The American Conservative
May 17, 2024 By Bradley Devlin
[center][glow=blue,2,300]Inside Dennis Kucinich’s Political
Comeback[/glow][/center]
[center]The firebrand former presidential candidate is back on
the scene. TAC sat down with him.[/center]
SNIPPET:
For 🕯️🗽🦅🕊️
Kucinich
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/>the modern presidency is proof positive that
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/>institutional forces[/glow] have, for the meantime,
overwhelmed
Article II of the Constitution.
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/>[glow=red,2,300]deep state[/glow]❓” Kucinich said.
“Of course!” Kucinich continued. “You see in [glow=red,2,300]the
Pentagon, in the upper echelons of State, and the various think
tanks[/glow], they try to assume a position of a
💵🎩
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/>[glow=red,2,300]permanent government[/glow]. Donald Trump’s
problem was that his lack of experience in government left him
totally vulnerable to being attacked by these interests without
even knowing it was happening. There’s a price you pay for not
actually knowing how Washington works. It takes a while to
understand how Washington works.”
Full Truth Filled lengthy article:
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🕯️ MAX Blumenthal: 🐍 Israeli 😈
Meddling in US Politics
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[center]🕯️ MAX Blumenthal: 🐍
[glow=red,2,300]Israeli[/glow] 😈 Meddling in US
Politics[/center]
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Judge Napolitano - 🕯️ Judging 🗽 Freedom
397K subscribers June 27, 2024
MAX Blumenthal : Israeli Meddling in US Politics.
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📢 "The solution to ‘the Israel lobby’ is for the US
to stop funding Israel."
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: June 28, 2024, 4:44 pm
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COUNTERPUNCH
👉 Most graphics and emojies by AGelbert. 👈
JUNE 27, 2024 BY ROB URIE
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[move]The
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/>[glow=red,2,300]Military 🎩
Industrial
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SNIPPETS:
The fact that neither Joe Biden nor his brain trust has picked
up a telephone to speak with Vladimir Putin in 2 ½ years of war
with Russia suggests that Mr. Putin and Russia might be better
served by negotiating an end to hostilities directly with
🦍 Lockheed Martin and 🦍 Northrop Grumman.
[glow=red,2,300]Biden[/glow] is failing, corrupt, and he
launched a war of choice against Russia that the 🦍 US is
losing. He is currently leading a WWII style genocide in Gaza.
Impressively, being allied with self-described Nazis in Ukraine
while leading a racist genocide in Gaza represents the political
program of both American liberals and the radical Right in
2024.
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None of this is intended in an electoral frame.
[glow=red,2,300]Donald Trump[/glow] has demonstrated himself to
be a
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/>‘toll booth’ [glow=red,2,300]Zionist[/glow], having agreed to
support Jerusalem as the capital of Israel after receiving $20
million in campaign contributions from Israeli-American
Zionists. Now in line to receive another $100 million
contribution from [glow=red,2,300]🐍 Miriam Adelson, wife
of the late 🐍 Sheldon Adelson[/glow], Mr. Trump recently
supported a bill to further fund US wars in Ukraine and Israel,
assuring its passage. There is little difference between the
major party candidates regarding Israel’s genocide, likely
because the [glow=maroon,2,300]American MIC[/glow] is laundering
its Federal subsidies through [glow=red,2,300]Israel[/glow]. ...
...
With [glow=red,2,300]Zionist[/glow] settlers in the West Bank
now once again ‘clearing’ Palestinians by seizing their land and
exiling them, the plan of Israel being revealed is the total
extermination of the Palestinian people. Here
[glow=red,2,300]the Wannsee Conference[/glow] has bearing. It
was the meeting of [glow=red,2,300]top Nazis in 1942 [/glow]to
plan the systematic extermination (‘final solution’) of European
Jews as WWII was underway, illustrating that the most hateful
acts in human history have come in the form of
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/>powerful political actors calmly planning the extermination of
entire peoples. With [glow=red,2,300]Israel[/glow] now
exterminating the Palestinian people, history has come full
circle. The persecuted are now the persecutors. That the
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/>[glow=maroon,2,300]US[/glow] is
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/>funding and arming [glow=maroon,2,300]the effort[/glow] makes
it
[glow=maroon,2,300]the ultimate state actor [/glow]in this
process of
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🚩 "But and if that evil servant shall say in his
heart, My lord delayeth his coming; ..."
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 5, 2024, 1:36 pm
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Year 1800:
--- Quote ---
> "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all
history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be
ruled by a small elite." -- Thomas Jefferson
--- End Quote ---
July 19 to July 21, 1944:
Democratic Party Convention Party Boss thwarts Henry Wallace
from VP Candidate position in order to position Harry Truman for
VP by yelling, "FIRE!" at the Convention.
From April 12, 1945 (Death of FDR when Truman became POTUS) to
September 10, 2001:
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[glow=red,2,300]September 11, 2001[/glow] to
[glow=red,2,300]PRESENT[/glow]:
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[move]"Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh
shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make
him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall
say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin
to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the
drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he
looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And
shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the
hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." --
Matthew 24:46-51 [/move]
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[move]"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets,
and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I
have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her
chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house
is left unto you [glow=red,2,300]desolate[/glow]. For I say unto
you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed
is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." -- Matthew
23:37-39[/move]
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😲📢 Trump Survives Assassination Attempt❗
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 13, 2024, 9:11 pm
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/>Donald Trump appeared to be the target of an assassination
attempt as he spoke during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on
Saturday, law enforcement officials said. The former president,
his ear covered in blood, was quickly pulled away by Secret
Service agents and his campaign said he was "fine," the AP
reported.
The attack, by a shooter who law enforcement officials say was
then killed by the Secret Service, was the first attempt to
assassinate a president or presidential candidate since Ronald
Reagan was shot in 1981. It comes amid a deeply polarized
political atmosphere, just four months from the presidential
elections and days before Trump is to be officially named the
Republican nominee at his party's convention.
A local prosecutor said the suspected gunman and at least one
attendee are dead.
"President Trump thanks law enforcement and first responders for
their quick action during this heinous act," spokesman Steven
Cheung said in a statement. "He is fine and is being checked out
at a local medical facility. More details will follow."
The Secret Service said in a statement that "the former
president is safe."
Two officials spoke to the AP on the condition of anonymity to
discuss the ongoing investigation. They said the shooter was not
an attendee at the rally and was killed by U.S. Secret Service
agents.
The officials said the shooter was engaged by members of the
U.S. Secret Service counterassault team and killed. The heavily
armed tactical team travels everywhere with the president and
major party nominees and is meant to confront any active threats
while other agents focus on safeguarding and evacuating the
person at the center of protection.
It's still not clear yet whether Trump was struck by gunfire or
was injured as he was pulled to the ground by agents.
Butler County district attorney Richard Goldinger said in a
phone interview that the suspected gunman was dead and at least
one rally attendee was killed.
Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, was showing off a
chart of border crossing numbers during his last rally before
the Republican National Convention opens Monday when the
apparent shots began.
It took two minutes from the moment of the first shot for Trump
to be placed in a waiting SUV.
As Trump was talking, a popping sound was heard, and the former
president put his right hand up to his right ear, as people in
the stands behind him appeared to be shocked.
As the first pop rang out, Trump said, "Oh," and grabbed his ear
as two more pops could be heard and he crouched down. More shots
are heard then.
Someone could be heard saying near the microphone at Trump's
lectern, "Get down, get down, get down, get down!" as agents
tackled the former president. They piled atop him to shield him
with their bodies, as is their training protocol, as other
agents took up positions on stage to search for the threat.
Screams were heard in the crowd of several thousand people. A
woman is heard screaming louder than the rest. Afterward, voices
were heard saying "shooter's down" several times, before someone
asks "are we good to move?" and "are we clear?" Then, someone
ordered, "Let's move."
Trump could be heard on the video saying at least twice, "Let me
get my shoes, let me get my shoes," with another voice heard
saying, "I've got you sir."
Trump got to his feet moments later and could be seen reaching
with his right hand toward his face. There appeared to be blood
on his face. He then pumped his fist in the air and appeared to
mouth the word "Fight" twice to his crowd of supporters,
prompting loud cheers and then chants of "USA. USA. USA."
The crowd cheered as he got back up and pumped his fist.
His motorcade left the venue moments later. Video showed Trump
turning back to the crowd and raising a fist right before he is
put into a vehicle.
Police began vacating the fairgrounds shortly after Trump left
the stage in what local officers described as a crime scene.
The perils of campaigning took on a new urgency after the
assassination of Robert F. Kennedy in California in 1968, and
again in 1972 when Arthur Bremer shot and seriously hurt George
Wallace, who was running as an independent on a campaign
platform that has sometimes been compared to Trump's. That led
to increased protection of candidates, even as the threats
persisted, notably against Jesse Jackson in 1988 and Barack
Obama in 2008.
Presidents, particularly after the assassination of John F.
Kennedy in 1963, have even greater layers of security. Trump is
a rarity as both a former president and a current candidate.
President Biden said in a statement that he had been briefed on
the shooting and said he was grateful that the former president
"is safe and doing well. I'm praying for him and his family and
for all those who were at the rally, as we await further
information."
"Jill and I are grateful to the Secret Service for getting him
to safety," Biden said. "There's no place for this kind of
violence in America. We must unite as one nation to condemn it."
After the shooting at Trump's rally, the Biden campaign was
pausing all messaging to supporters and is working to pull down
all of its television ads as quickly as possible, the campaign
said.
Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., posted a photo on X of
Trump, his fist raised and his face bloody in front of an
American flag, with the words: "He'll never stop fighting to
Save America."
North Dakota governor Doug Burgum (R), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
and Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), the three men on Trump's shortlist
for vice president, all quickly sent out statements expressing
concern for the former president, with Rubio sharing an image
taken as Trump was escorted off stage with his fist in the air
and a streak of blood on his face along with the words "God
protected President Trump."
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, a Democrat, said in a statement
on X that he had been briefed on the situation and Pennsylvania
state police were on hand at the rally site.
"Violence targeted at any political party or political leader is
absolutely unacceptable. It has no place in Pennsylvania or the
United States," he said.
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/>Because Trump had turned his head just before the shot,
something that CANNOT be scripted in advance, this appears to be
a genuine assassination attempt, not a show to jack his polls
up. At any rate, Trump's polls are going to jump at least ten
points now, so he probably is now pretty much GUARANTEED to take
back the White House with a win in the November (s)election.
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That said, IF the shooter turns out to be a PALESTINIAN, or even
a non-jewish (of course) lefty American critic of Israel's
GENOCIDE in Gaza, I will smell a VERY BIG
[glow=red,2,300]NETANYAHU[/glow]
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/>[glow=red,2,300]🐀 RAT[/glow] (i.e.
[glow=red,2,300]Mossad False Flag
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/>attack[/glow] for the purpose of demonizing Arabs in general,
and Palestinians in particular.). Now that
[glow=red,2,300]Netanyahu's pack of cruel murdering NAZI IDF
bastards[/glow] have been exposed
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/>for their "Hannibal" murderous rampage on July 7, 2023 (that
killed MOST of the Israelis that died that day, while Israeli
Government LIARS blamed Hamas FALSELY and REPEATEDLY, for
MONTHS, for most of the deaths AND sexual violence that NEVER
HAPPENED!), they need another
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/>BIG LIE to keep most Americans from seeing through their
Morally
Bankrupt "policy" of [glow=rmaroon,2,300]methodically
murdering[/glow] Palestinian men, women AND 😱 CHILDREN
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/>steal their land.
The question to be asked is NOT whether or not this
assassination attempt was that of a "lone nut" or some
"disgruntled" or "Deranged" person.
The QUESTION to be asked is [glow=red,2,300]Cui Bono[/glow]?
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📢 SPECIAL: Judge / Johnson / McGovern : Assassination
Attempt of Donald Trump
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: July 15, 2024, 4:48 pm
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🕯️ McGovern: [glow=red,2,300]Assassination
Attempt [/glow]of Donald Trump[/center]
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Judge Napolitano - 🕯️ Judging 🗽 Freedom
408K subscribers JulyStreamed live 5 hours ago #TrumpNews
#DonaldTrump #LarryJohnson
Join Judge Nap Larry Johnson, & Ray McGovern for an in-depth
analysis as we examine the attempted assassination of Donald
Trump.
Judge interrupts his Italy vacation to bring this discussion to
the channel. This is a MUST WATCH
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Ray McGovern agrees with [color=purple]me
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mono][glow=red,2,300]Cui Bono[/glow]?
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Selected comments by those who ask the same question:
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> @stevejagger8602 4 hours ago
> Thank you Judge.
> I am with Ray McGovern on this - who benefits??
>
> @Cochise85 4 hours ago
> Ray is 100% correct: Qui Bono? The Entire Democratic Party,
not to mention the MSM and Big Tech
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July 15, 2024
[center]📢 Ray McGovern on the Failed Assassination of
Donald Trump[/center]
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