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The only Known Solar Powered Vertebrate
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Date: February 6, 2023, 3:28 pm
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May 4th, 2017 at 5:05 pm by Elena Motivans
Although it looks like a regular salamander, the yellow spotted
salamander is completely unique because its embryos use the sun
for energy. They have algae inside of their cells that give them
oxygen and carbohydrates. This feature that though, of course,
necessary in green plants, is not so common in animals. A sea
slug, aphid, and hornets are other creatures that share this
ability. However, the yellow spotted salamander (Ambystoma
maculatum) is the only known photosynthetic vertebrate! In fact,
before this finding, it was thought to be impossible.
What is yellow spotted and secretly green?
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Yellow spotted salamanders actually look pretty normal; they
aren’t green or anything. As the name suggests, the salamander
is black with yellow spots. It is very common in North America.
However, while the embryo is developing it undergoes
photosynthesis. The reason why has to do with the salamander’s
life history. The adults go to pools of water to mate and breed.
Yellow salamanders only breed in ponds without fish because,
otherwise, their larvae would be gobbled up. However, fishless
ponds don’t contain very much oxygen. This problem is solved by
adding algae into the mix.
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[center]The yellow spotted salamander (Ambystoma maculatum).
Image credit: Brian Gratwicke.[/center]
It has been known for a long time that the eggs have a symbiotic
relationship with algae; the eggs are bright green. Only
recently, a researcher from Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia
discovered that at a certain period in their development,
embryos contain algae within their cells. Part of the green
colour of the eggs comes from the embryos themselves.
A two-way relationship
The algae only move into the embryo after parts of the
salamander’s nervous system has developed. Looking at time-lapse
videos, you can see a flash of green at this time, which is a
small algae bloom. The developing embryo releases nitrogen-rich
waste at about this time, giving the algae food. Some algae
could make it in the embryo at this time.
Once in the salamander, the algae stick near its mitochondria.
Mitochondria create energy for animal cells from oxygen and a
metabolic form of glucose. The algae appear to be giving oxygen
and carbohydrates (the products of photosynthesis) directly to
the salamander cells that contain them. The salamander could be
using these byproducts to help its own energy production. In
return, the embryo gives the algae nitrogen-rich waste and CO2.
The algae have also been found in the oviducts of female spotted
salamanders. The mother may have the algae already and be
passing it down to its offspring by putting it into the egg sac.
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Uncommon ability
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The yellow spotted salamander is the first vertebrate to have a
photosynthetic symbiont. Before, it was thought to be impossible
because vertebrates have an adaptive immune system that should
destroy any foreign biologically material. Therefore, it was
believed that vertebrates weren’t able to have a symbiont living
in them. The spotted salamander may have gotten around this
obstacle by turning their immune system off or by the algae not
being recognised as foreign. However, the real answer isn’t
known yet.
As mentioned, photosynthetic animals are extremely rare and all
of the other known cases are invertebrates. The others use
slightly different methods to harness solar energy, most
commonly by containing some form of microalgae or cyanobacteria
inside of them. For example, the emerald green sea slug, Elysia
chlorotica, even has genes to sustain the chloroplasts that it
contains. It can live for up to nine months without eating
anything :o.
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[center]Elysia chlorotica, the solar-powered sea slug, shares a
few features with leaves. Image credits: Patrick Krug Cataloging
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The pea aphid (Acyrthosiphon pisum) has a fungal gene that
produces carotenoids.
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red eyes. The antennae of Acyrthosiphon pisum are 1.0-1.6 times
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A bit differently, oriental hornets (Vespa orientalis) conduct
electricity from their exoskeletons, silk, and comb walls. The
hornet’s yellow bands contain xanthopterin that absorbs light
and turns it into electricity. Unfortunately, this same material
makes an inefficient solar panel.
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All in all, the yellow spotted salamander is unique in being
able to photosynthesize. It has shattered previous perceptions
and [i]opened the idea that other vertebrates may also have a
symbiotic relationship with algae.
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Yes, Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence — Let’s
Hear Some for Darwinian Evolution
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: March 8, 2023, 6:09 pm
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March 5, 2023, 3:30 PM By [glow=teal,2,300]Granville
Sewell[/glow]
[center]Yes, Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
— Let’s Hear Some for [glow=brown,2,300]Darwinian
Evolution[/glow][/center]
Carl Sagan famously said on his TV series Cosmos, “I believe
that the extraordinary should be pursued. But extraordinary
claims require extraordinary evidence.” I agree. You shouldn’t
change the entire direction of science based on a few isolated
pieces of evidence.
[glow=teal,2,300]Intelligent design (ID) proponents[/glow] make
an extraordinary claim, that the origin and evolution of life
cannot be explained without postulating [glow=teal,2,300]a
guiding intelligence[/glow]. If this idea becomes generally
accepted it will be a huge change in the direction of science,
so the scientific establishment is justified in dragging its
feet. But the evidence for intelligent design does not consist
of a few missing fossils or a few examples of irreducible
complexity, which could eventually be shown to be reducible.
[glow=teal,2,300]ID advocates[/glow] believe we have long ago
passed the threshold of evidence required to accept
[glow=teal,2,300]this extraordinary claim[/glow] and that every
new discovery in biology and biochemistry pushes us farther
beyond the threshold. Evolution News readers are exposed to this
evidence daily.
Another [glow=brown,2,300]Extraordinary Claim[/glow]
But less noticed is that ID [glow=brown,2,300]opponents[/glow]
also make an extraordinary claim. They believe that they have
found, or at least will eventually find,
[glow=brown,2,300]natural, unintelligent, causes capable
of[/glow] [glow=teal,2,300]creating[/glow] things which in our
uniform experience are known to be created only by
[glow=teal,2,300]intelligence[/glow].
I have often argued (most recently here
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/>that to attribute to [glow=red,2,300]natural selection[/glow]
the ability to create [b][glow=green,2,300]spectacular order
[/glow]out of [glow=red,2,300]disorder[/glow] is to attribute to
[glow=red,2,300]it[/glow], alone among [glow=red,2,300]all
unintelligent forces[/glow] in the universe, the
[glow=blue,2,300]ability[/glow] to [glow=red,2,300]defy[/glow]
the more general statements of the [glow=navy,2,300]second law
of thermodynamics[/glow], or at least the
[glow=navy,2,300]general principle [/glow]behind this law.
[/b]But it is not really necessary to appeal to the second law
because everyone can see that Darwin’s claim to have discovered
an [glow=brown,2,300]unintelligent force capable of[/glow]
[glow=teal,2,300]creating [/glow][glow=green,2,300]all the
magnificent species in the living world[/glow], and even
[glow=green,2,300]human brains[/glow], was quite an
extraordinary claim. It credits [glow=red,2,300]natural
selection[/glow] with [glow=teal,2,300]creative powers[/glow]
far beyond those claimed for any other natural causes.
(Origin-of-life researchers’ claim that chance chemical
processes could have created the first self-replicators, when
human engineered self-replicating machines are still far beyond
current technology, could also be considered to be an
extraordinary claim.)
And where do we stand with regard to evidence for the
Darwinists’ extraordinary claim? Have we passed the threshold of
evidence required to accept their claim? Hardly. The ongoing
debate between Michael Behe and his critics is over whether or
not there is evidence that natural selection of random mutations
can be credited with any evolutionary changes that would not be
considered “devolution” and do not simply “promote the loss of
genetic information.” And evolutionists now openly wonder if
they need an entirely new theory. While the evidence for the
extraordinary claim made by design theorists continually
increases, the evidence for the Darwinists’ claim seems to be
shrinking.
“Why Evolution Is Different”
In my 2020 video “Why Evolution Is Different” I imagine watching
a tornado running backward and trying to come up with a
scientific explanation for what we are seeing. It concludes:
--- Quote ---
> Anyone who claims to have a scientific explanation for how
unintelligent agents might be able to turn rubble into houses
and cars would be expected to produce some very powerful
evidence if they want their theory to be taken seriously. The
burden of proof should be equally heavy on those who claim to
have a scientific explanation for how a few unintelligent forces
of physics alone could rearrange the basic particles of physics
into computers and encyclopedias and Apple iPhones — and there
is no evidence that natural selection of random mutations can
explain anything other than very minor adaptations.
--- End Quote ---
Some observers of the ID-Darwinism debate feel that the
Darwinian point of view is the default so that the burden of
proof is on us. But it is extraordinary that we are here at all,
so any ideas about how we got here should require extraordinary
evidence.
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[center]Why [glow=brown,2,300]Evolution[/glow] is Different (w.
Spanish subtitles)[/center]
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[glow=teal,2,300]GRANVILLE SEWELL
[/glow]Granville Sewell is professor of mathematics at the
University of Texas El Paso. He has written four books on
numerical analysis, most recently Solving Partial Differential
Equation Applications with PDE2D, John Wiley, 2018. In addition
to his years at UTEP, has been employed by Universidad Simon
Bolivar (Caracas), Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Purdue
University, IMSL Inc., The University of Texas Center for High
Performance Computing and Texas A&M University, and spent a
semester (1999) at Universidad Nacional de Tucuman on a
Fulbright scholarship, and another semester (2019) at the UNAM
Centro de Geociencas in Queretaro, Mexico.
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Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution 😁
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: March 28, 2023, 6:43 pm
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🤠 | [glow=green,2,300]Dr. Jobe Martin[/glow]
🕊️[/center]
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[glow=blue,2,300]Exploration Films[/glow] 30.8K subscribers
30,853 views Sep 26, 2021
Enter the fascinating world of animals to reveal sophisticated
and complex designs that shake the traditional foundations of
evolutionary theory. Featured in this program are Lampsylis
Mussel, Horses, Ostrichs, Hummingbirds, Dogs, Manatees,
Elephants, Butterflies, Cuttlefish, Penguins and Milopina Bees.
[glow=teal,2,300]Their designs[/glow] cannot possibly be
explained by evolution but only by a Creator.
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Starring: David Hames, Dr. Jobe Martin
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Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution 😁
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: March 29, 2023, 3:57 pm
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[center]Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution 1 | David Hames
🤠 | [glow=green,2,300]Dr. Jobe Martin[/glow]
🕊️[/center]
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[glow=blue,2,300]Exploration Films[/glow] 30.9K subscribers
14,234 views Oct 15, 2021
The Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution Series enters the
fascinating world of animals to reveal sophisticated and complex
designs that shake the traditional foundations of evolutionary
theory.
This series features Dr. Jobe Martin, who for the past 20 years,
has been exploring evolution vs. creation. His findings have
been fascinating students around the world as he lectures on
these remarkable animal designs that cannot be explained by
traditional evolution.
Dr. Martin himself was a [glow=maroon,2,300]traditional
evolutionist[/glow], but his medical and scientific training
would go through an evolution, rather a ☝🏻
[glow=teal,2,300]revolution[/glow] when he began to
👨‍🔬🔬 study animals that challenged
the scientific assumptions of his education. This was the
beginning of the evolution of a creationist.
- Are there really creatures that produce fire to defend
themselves?
- How does a giraffe get a drink without causing lethal blood
pressure to his brain?
- How can Geckos walk upside down, even on glass and not fall?
[glow=green,2,300]This program features:[/glow]
Bombardier Beetle, The Giraffe, Woodpecker, Australian Incubator
Bird, The Chicken Egg, The Platypus, Black & Yellow Garden
Spider, Gecko & Chuckwalla Lizards, Human Eye & Ear Drum
Clear evidence that [glow=teal,2,300]animal designs[/glow] can
only be attributed to a [glow=teal,2,300]Creator[/glow].
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Writer: Steve Greisen
Stars: ⭐ David Hames, 🌟 Jobe Martin
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Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution! 😁
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: April 2, 2023, 7:10 pm
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[center]Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution 2 | David Hames
🤠 | [glow=green,2,300]Dr. Jobe Martin[/glow]
🕊️[/center]
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[glow=blue,2,300]Exploration Films[/glow] 30.9K subscribers
15,983 views Aug 21, 2021
The Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution Series enters the
fascinating world of animals to reveal sophisticated and complex
designs that shake the traditional foundations of evolutionary
theory.
This series features [glow=blue,2,300]Dr. Jobe Martin[/glow],
who for the past 20 years, has been exploring evolution vs.
creation. His findings have been fascinating students around the
world as he lectures on these remarkable animal designs that
cannot be explained by traditional evolution.
Dr. Martin himself was a [glow=maroon,2,300]traditional
evolutionist[/glow], but his medical and scientific training
would go through an evolution, rather a revolution when he began
to study animals that [glow=teal,2,300]challenged[/glow] the
scientific assumptions of his education. This was the beginning
of the evolution of a creationist.
👉 What kind of bird can kill a lion with a single kick?
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👉 How can some dogs know that a storm is coming before
it appears, or can sense when their masters are about to
experience a seizure?
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👉 Which creature perplexes scientists because of its
amazing ability to heal itself, even when it sustains horrendous
injuries?
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👉 How do Emperor Penguins go two and a half months
without eating or drinking?
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This program answers these questions and
[glow=teal,2,300]examines[/glow]:
[glow=teal,2,300]Lampsylis Mussel
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Horses
Ostrichs
Hummingbirds
Vestigial Organs
Dogs
Manatees
Elephants
Butterflies
A section on designs and designers
Cuttle Fish
Penguins
Milopina Bee and vanilla[/glow]
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Clear evidence that [glow=teal,2,300]animal designs[/glow] can
only be attributed to a [glow=teal,2,300]Creator[/glow].
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Director: Steve Greisen
Writer: Steve Greisen
Stars: ⭐ David Hames, 🌟 Jobe Martin
🕊️
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Dr. Jobe Martin 🕊️ brings a 4 part series on
Creation 📚👨‍🔬 Science ✨
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[center][glow=teal,2,300]Dr. Jobe Martin 🕊️ --
Creation 📚👨‍🔬 Science ✨,
part 1[/glow] (22 February 2023)[/center]
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Mar 2, 2023 DALLAS
22 February 2023
Dr. Jobe Martin brings a 4 part series on Creation Science to
Believers Chapel Wednesday Night services. Dr. Jobe Martin has
spent the last twenty years studying the topic of Biblical
Creation vs. Evolution, and lectures frequently on the subject.
As president of Biblical Discipleship Ministries, Jobe is a
frequent speaker on topics such as "Creation vs. Evolution",
marriage, family, discipleship and other topics.
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MORE Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution! 😁
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: April 10, 2023, 9:10 pm
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[center]Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution 3 | David Hames
🤠 | [glow=green,2,300]Dr. Jobe Martin[/glow]
🕊️[/center]
[center]
HTML https://youtu.be/hGYMbj_0LMQ[/center]
[glow=blue,2,300]Exploration Films[/glow] 30.9K subscribers
31,273 views Sep 26, 2021
Enter the fascinating world of animals to reveal sophisticated
and complex designs that shake the traditional foundations of
evolutionary theory. Featured in this program are Lampsylis
Mussel, Horses, Ostrichs, Hummingbirds, Dogs, Manatees,
Elephants, Butterflies, Cuttlefish, Penguins and Milopina Bees.
Their designs cannot possibly be explained by evolution but only
by a Creator.
This series features [glow=blue,2,300]Dr. Jobe Martin[/glow],
who for the past 20 years, has been exploring evolution vs.
creation. His findings have been fascinating students around the
world as he lectures on these remarkable animal designs that
cannot be explained by traditional evolution.
Clear evidence that [glow=teal,2,300]animal designs[/glow] can
only be attributed to a [glow=teal,2,300]Creator[/glow].
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Director: Steve Greisen
Writer: Steve Greisen
Stars: ⭐ David Hames, 🌟 Jobe Martin
🕊️
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Dr. Jobe Martin 🕊️ -- Creation ☝🏻
Science 👨‍🔬, part 1
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: April 15, 2023, 10:24 pm
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[center][glow=teal,2,300]Dr. Jobe Martin 🕊️ --
Creation ☝🏻 Science 👨‍🔬,
part 1[/glow] (22 February 2023)[/center]
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BCDallasVideo 1.56K subscribers Mar 2, 2023 DALLAS
22 February 2023
Dr. Jobe Martin brings a 4 part series on "Creation Science" to
Believers Chapel Wednesday Night services. Dr. Jobe Martin has
spent the last twenty years studying the topic of Biblical
Creation vs. Evolution, and lectures frequently on the subject.
As president of Biblical Discipleship Ministries, Jobe is a
frequent speaker on topics such as "Creation vs. Evolution",
marriage, family, discipleship and other topics.
Find out all about our ministry at our website:
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Breakthroughs Unveil ☝🏻 Foresight in Nature
DIR By: AGelbert
Date: April 19, 2023, 1:21 pm
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April 19, 2023
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[center]Breakthroughs Unveil ☝🏻 Foresight in
[glow=teal,2,300]Nature[/glow][/center]
Marcos Eberlin writes how advances in multiple scientific
disciplines have identified evidence that a mind designed the
laws of nature, our planetary system, and life.
Continue Reading
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AGelbert response to Doomstead Evolution Defenders Comments
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Date: April 20, 2023, 6:29 pm
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AGelbert
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Hmmmm, I see some excellent examples of the Backfire effect, but
that is par for the course for those who have accepted the
Theory of Evolution as reality based. Rather than address the
issue brought up by a real scientist about whether or not the
cell membrane could have evolved from random undirected
processes (NOTE: the graphic above from Organic Chemist Dr.
James Tour also evidences how wrong evolutionists are about cell
membrane origins.), appeals to Evolution Theory Academic
consensus and authority, plus questioning the credentials of
said scientist with the temerity to question Evolution Theory
ensued. 😕
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If you Darwinists are so sure that 🦍 Evolution Theory
can hold its own in any argument about any part of a cell or any
biological mechanism that has the appearance of ☝🏻
Design, why do you refuse to argue the merits, if not because
you are very uncomfortable with the very idea that we do not
live in a random universe?
Let us forget our disparate worldviews and let us REASON
together, shall we? Yeah, I'm a Christian and I do not want any
of you to miss out on God's offer of Salvation through Jesus
Christ, but that is irrelevant to the nuts and bolts subject of
biological mechanisms. Either something COULD evolve or
something, that is alive and thrives right now, COULD NOT have
evolved. Now you all think everything that is alive evolved from
some simpler life form through survival if the fittest natural
selection. If that is true, then you need to seriously
challenge, with facts, not opinions, ANY science based claim
that argues against that assumption.
I'm not here to give you a hard time. If you want to believe
this or that, you have free will to do that. I'm just 🤠
gonna post about lots of fascinating animals that we share this
planet with. If you can explain, with facts, not opinons, how
these animals evolved all the amazing processes in their anatomy
and physiology, 'step by step' when they do not work unless the
whole mechanism is present from the getgo, then please do.
Or, you can be honest, like this fellow that I respect for his
honesty:
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Darwin was honest too. Why do you suppose most Darwinists only
read what they want to read about what he wrote?
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[center]Here, for your study and amicable discussion, is the
amazing Lampsylis Mussel.
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I suggest, for the sake of NON-argument, to all of you who
believe Evolution is scientifically valid, that you please elect
a volunteer, who does not sneer (e.g. K-Dog), to explain to me,
without breaking the rules you established here about reasoned
and civilized (i.e. no Ad hom or other forms of verbal abuse
like disdain, sarcasm, ridicule etc. allowed, you know what I
mean)
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reproduction. Please remember, though too many evolutionist
forget, that it had to work the FIRST TIME, or there wouldn't be
any happy Lampsylis Mussels around today using a very specific
species of fish to ensure the survival of a new generation of
Lampsylis Mussels. Please spare me terms like "co-evolution" and
"common ancestors". Fish and mussels, even by evolutionary
biology standards are not even remotely similar genetically.
Mussels cannot see. Mussels have no eyes. Mussels never had any
eyes. Without EYES an organism CANNOT 'select' through 'random
undirected processes' from different types of muscle pattern and
color to use as a lure. YET, a small portion of their 'foot'
muscle perfectly mimics, IN COLOR AND PATTERN, the APPEARANCE of
a species of fish that a very specific type of bass loves to
eat. Evolutionists claim this took place over "millions of
years". That is obviously false because mussels of this species
would have been 'selected OUT' (i.e. DIED OFF due to NO VIABLE
OFFSPRING, EXTINCT, you get the idea) if they could not do this
from the FIRST generation. To understand why that is so, watch
the video. 🧐
AGelbert NOTE: Go to 4:42 for Lampsylis Mussel discussion.
[center]Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution 3 | David Hames
🤠 | ]Dr. Jobe Martin[/center]
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Exploration Films 30.9K subscribers 31,273 views Sep 26, 2021
Enter the fascinating world of animals to reveal sophisticated
and complex designs that shake the traditional foundations of
evolutionary theory. Featured in this program are Lampsylis
Mussel, Horses, Ostrichs, Hummingbirds, Dogs, Manatees,
Elephants, Butterflies, Cuttlefish, Penguins and Milopina Bees.
Their designs cannot possibly be explained by evolution but only
by a Creator.
This series features Dr. Jobe Martin, who for the past 20 years,
has been exploring evolution vs. creation. His findings have
been fascinating students around the world as he lectures on
these remarkable animal designs that cannot be explained by
traditional evolution.
Clear evidence that animal designs can only be attributed to a
Creator.
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Director: Steve Greisen
Writer: Steve Greisen
Stars: ⭐ David Hames, 🌟 Jobe Martin
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