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       "I do not deny any scientific evidence. The argument from
       consequences that you make has NO effect on the validity of t
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       />from EVOLUTION IS a Religion of Greed, Cruelty and Death based
       on ATHEISM.
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       Gary Walker > Sober Thinking
       So much wrong with this, I don't know where to start.
       Argument from consequence fallacy.
       Sober Thinking > Gary Walker
       So, WHY do you deny the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE?
       Yup, you certainly DO NOT know where to start. Enjoy your
       Atheist Belief system PROCRUSTEAN BED.
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       > "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." --
       Aldous Huxley
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       Gary Walker > Sober Thinking
       I do not deny any scientific evidence.
       The argument from consequences that you make has NO effect on
       the validity of the Theory of Evolution.
       Sober Thinking > Gary Walker
       You said, "I do not deny any scientific evidence.
       The argument from consequences that you make
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       />has NO effect on the validity of the Theory of Evolution."
       &#129300;
       Your position is, correct me if I am misinterpreting what you
       just wrote, that you are willing to consider scientific evidence
       based arguments that question the validity of Theory of
       Evolution, but consider Social Darwinism's ethically bankrupt,
       society damaging influence a consequence not relevant to said
       validity.
       I agree that the damage to human society caused by Social
       Darwinism is a separate subject from the scientific evidence
       based validation, or invalidation, of the Theory of Evolution.
       That is why I did not limit my comment to consequences. The
       physical constants that precisely determined, before the first
       atom came into existence, the force of gravity that would enable
       even atoms to form and then to coalesce into molecules (and so
       on - no atoms, no stars, no planets, no possibility of life,
       etc. you get the idea) I mentioned are irrefutable scientifc
       evidence that our Universe was created, not formed from random
       undirected processes.
       
       I consider it irrational (i.e denying scientific evidence) to
       ignore those physical constants (I'll list several of them here
       for you if you wish to check them out, one by one) based on your
       view that the Darwin's biological "natural selection" premise of
       the Theory of Evolution is "not related" to the origin of the
       Universe. WHY? Because both categories address the core issue of
       random (no Superbeing Designer- the Universe and all life in it
       resulted from random undirected processes) versus non-random (a
       Superbeing Designer that created the Universe and Providentially
       created all life in it) origins.
       For that reason , I didn't get into the biological arguments
       invalidating the Theory of Evolution. If you are sincere about
       not questioning scientific evidence invalidating the Theory of
       Evolution, then you will be interested in reading the following
       statements from these eminently credentialed scientists:
       
       PROFESSOR COLIN REEVES, Coventry University
       Darwinism was an interesting idea in the 19th century, when
       handwaving explanations gave a plausible, if not properly
       scientific, framework into which we could fit biological facts.
       However, what we have learned since the days of Darwin throws
       doubt on natural selection’s ability to create complex
       biological systems – and we still have little more than
       handwaving as an argument in its favour.
       Professor Colin Reeves
       Dept of Mathematical Sciences
       Coventry University
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       EDWARD PELTZER, University of California, San Diego (Scripps
       Institute)
       As a chemist, the most fascinating issue for me revolves around
       the origin of life. Before life began, there was no biology,
       only chemistry — and chemistry is the same for all time. What
       works (or not) today, worked (or not) back in the beginning. So,
       our ideas about what happened on Earth prior to the emergence of
       life are eminently testable in the lab. And what we have seen
       thus far when the reactions are left unguided as they would be
       in the natural world is not much. Indeed, the decomposition
       reactions and competing reactions out distance the synthetic
       reactions by far. It is only when an intelligent agent (such as
       a scientist or graduate student) intervenes and “tweaks” the
       reactions conditions “just right” do we see any progress at all,
       and even then it is still quite limited and very far from where
       we need to get.
       Thus, it is the very chemistry that speaks of a need for
       something more than just time and chance. And whether that be
       simply a highly specified set of initial conditions
       (fine-tuning) or some form of continual guidance until life
       ultimately emerges is still unknown. But what we do know is the
       random chemical reactions are both woefully insufficient and are
       often working against the pathways needed to succeed. For these
       reasons I have serious doubts about whether the current
       Darwinian paradigm will ever make additional progress in this
       area.
       Edward Peltzer
       Ph.D. Oceanography, University of California, San Diego (Scripps
       Institute)
       Associate Editor, Marine Chemistry
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       CHRIS WILLIAMS, Ph.D., Biochemistry Ohio State University
       As a biochemist and software developer who works in genetic and
       metabolic screening, I am continually amazed by the incredible
       complexity of life. For example, each of us has a vast ‘computer
       program’ of six billion DNA bases in every cell that guided our
       development from a fertilized egg, specifies how to make more
       than 200 tissue types, and ties all this together in numerous
       highly functional organ systems. Few people outside of genetics
       or biochemistry realize that evolutionists still can provide no
       substantive details at all about the origin of life, and
       particularly the origin of genetic information in the first
       self-replicating organism. What genes did it require — or did it
       even have genes? How much DNA and RNA did it have — or did it
       even have nucleic acids? How did huge information-rich molecules
       arise before natural selection?
       Exactly how did the genetic code linking nucleic acids to amino
       acid sequence originate? Clearly the origin of life — the
       foundation of evolution – is still virtually all speculation,
       and little if no fact.
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       Gary, are you aware that all those Icons of Evolution we all
       were told were "scientific evidence" (most STILL in biology
       textbooks from grade school to university level!) are either
       fanciful speculation or disingenuously mendacious fabrications?
       I hope you don't still believe this pro-evolution propaganda
       that has been scientifically proven to be false DECADES ago.
       
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       [center]The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man
       looketh well to his going. -- Proverbs 14:15[/center]
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       Gary Walker Defender of Evolution goes FULL Confirmation Bias
       BACKFIRE EFFECT
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       Date: December 12, 2022, 12:14 pm
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       "I do not deny any scientific evidence. The argument from
       consequences that you make has NO effect on the validity of the
       Theory of Evolution."
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       Gary Walker > Sober Thinking
       Sorry but when over 99% of working biologists accept the Theory
       of Evolution as valid, I will follow that consensus.
       There is no "pro-evolution propaganda that has been
       scientifically proven to be false DECADES ago. ", THAT is a
       creationist lie and science denial.
       You are NOT thinking sober, you are cherry picking your
       "experts" to fit your conclusion. That is confirmation bias.
       Before you can assert "god did it", you must provide evidence
       that your god is real and good luck with that.
       Sober Thinking > Gary Walker
       It certainly is a sorry state when you refuse to even look at
       the evidence. The "cherry picking" of experts is your straw man
       argument. Those experts I cited gave EVIDENCE, not "opinions". I
       listed their credentials so you could take them seriously as
       scientists in order to objectively consider the FACTS, not their
       opinions. You just refuse to look at the evidence objectively.
       You criticized me for using an "argument from consequences", and
       then you use the fallacious debating technique of "argument from
       authority".
       Also, the only one using Confirmation Bias here is YOU when you
       use "99% of working biologists. (i.e. 'Darwinism is the
       explanation that almost the entire world believes, so it's gotta
       be true.'...) as your "proof" of Darwin's Theory INSTEAD of
       scientific evidence.
       Evolutionists argue that evolution is a fact, and that we ought
       to focus on evolution’s successful predictions rather than its
       false predictions. Criticism of evolution draws heated
       responses, and personal attacks are common.
       Such attacks, however, do not change the FACT that evolution has
       generated many false predictions. Also, evolutionists sometimes
       IGNORE or DENY the unexpected findings. They attempt to
       DISCREDIT the FACTS, referring to them as “tired old arguments,”
       or fallacies WITHOUT FOLLOWING UP such CRITICISMS WITH
       SUPPORTING DETAILS.
       You refuse to address the blatant falsehoods pushed in the
       conclusions of Miller-Urey experment (STILL in most Biology
       textbooks those 99% of working biologist true believers in
       Darwin's Atheist Gospel eat up), and all the other Scientifc
       Evidence I have mentioned, based on a type of confirmation bias
       known as the Backfire Effect. The tendency to seek confirming
       evidence over contrary evidence is known as confirmation bias.
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       One consequence of confirmation bias can be that confirming
       evidence is viewed as correct and typical whereas disconfirming
       evidence is viewed as anomalous and rare. Not surprisingly the
       confirming evidence is more often retained and documented.
       RARELY are the many false predictions found in evolution texts.
       Confirmation bias can hinder scientific research as
       evolutionists tend to view the predictions of evolution as
       overwhelmingly true. Evolutionists argue, based on confirmation
       bias, NOT scientifc evidence, that evolution is a fact, and that
       we ought to focus on evolution’s successful predictions rather
       than its false predictions. False predictions, on the other
       hand, are usually not viewed as legitimate falsifications but
       rather as open &#128521;research questions which are yet to be
       resolved. Indeed, evolutionists often make the remarkable claim,
       like you continue to make, that there is no evidence that is
       contrary to evolution.
       Gary Walker, school is out. You refuse to answer the question
       about the physical constants that provide scientific evidence
       that our Universe is not the result of random undirected
       processes. You arm wave with distractions to change the subject
       to the "amenable" Darwinian weeds in order to avoid addressing
       the intellectual bankruptcy of the "Random Universe" Core
       Evolution Theory Claim.
       You make the breathtakingly illogical claim that I have to prove
       the existence of God in order for you to believe the Scientifc
       Evidence that invalidates the "Theory" of Evolution. Hey, if you
       want to be an Atheist, that's your problem, but in this debate
       we are supposed to be talking about SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, not
       whether God exists or not. Yes, it is logical to conclude there
       is a Superbeing outside of time and space that designed and
       created the one, and ONLY, Universe, but the subject matter in
       this debate is whether or not the "Theory" of Evolution has any
       SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to back it. It doesn't. If it did, I would
       be the first to accept it. There are many good people out there
       that believe in God that have no issues with Darwin's "Theory".
       As a Catholic Priest who believed in evolution told me when I
       began to question it told me, "God could have done it any way He
       wanted!". True, but the Scientific Evidence does not support the
       Theistic Evolution worldview either.
       To you, the tooth fairy and "God" are in the list of things you
       do not believe in. Here is a partial list of things I do not
       believe in: I do not believe in Astrology, the tooth fairy, the
       fairy god mother and the Darwinist "Directed Panspermia" ID
       LOONEY TOONS that you and fellow atheists think is a "plausible
       alternative", despite irrefutable scientific EVIDENCE that our
       Universe is NON-RANDOM.
       I believe ALL humans are basically NOT intrinsically ethical,
       though ALL humans who are not mentally retarded know the
       difference between good and evil. I believe we are ALL basically
       lovers of self. THAT is the reason humans DO EVIL. THAT (SEE:
       Fallen Nature) is the reason we ALL need a Savior. I believe
       that Jesus Christ bought my Salvation with His Death on the
       Cross. He is my Lord and Savior.
       I believe ONLY humans who WALK the "Do unto others as you would
       have them do unto you." TALK are Christians. ALL Religious
       Hypocrites that DO NOT WALK THE TALK are ANTI-Christians.
       Faithfully following the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE is not
       "situational ethics optional" for a Christian.
       I believe there is more hope for atheists who do their ethical
       best to live by the Golden Rule than for Anti-Christians who
       pretend to do so. God is not mocked.
       &#128073; "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a
       man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his
       flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to
       the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting." Galatians
       6:7-8 &#10024;
       Gary Walker, you do not wish to reason; you unreasonably cling
       to your Darwinian belief system in the face of irrefutable
       scientific evidence to the contrary. I will pray that, before
       you die, God will Enlighten your darkness. I was an atheist from
       the age of 18 to the age of 28, when I could no longer pretend
       that the Universe is the result of random undirected processes.
       I was a hard case. If God could &#128330; convince greedy,
       adulterous, Republican moron me of the TRUTH, I am certain He
       can &#128330; reach you.
       For those who want to pursue the subject of whether or not
       Evolution Theory is reality based, the following posts wilI be
       of service.
       &#128367;&#65039; Dr Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist of
       the British Museum of Natural History, wrote a book, Evolution.
       In reply to a questioner who asked why he had not included any
       pictures of transitional forms, he wrote: I fully agree with
       your comments about the lack of direct illustration of
       evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or
       living, I would certainly have included them. …
       &#128226; I will lay it on the line—there is not one such fossil
       for which one could make a watertight argument.
       "Darwin admitted that if no such links were discovered, then his
       theory would be incorrect."
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       &#128367;&#65039; June 2018 &#128073; I will not debate this
       subject with you as long as you flat refuse to address
       irrefutable points like the TIME it would ACTUALLY TAKE to
       "evolve" a simple bacterium like Escherichia coli or any of
       these other points:
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       &#128367;&#65039; These scholarly references are important to
       credible debate: "Many scientists doubt evolution, but they are
       not cited or quoted in this paper. Only material from
       evolutionists is used to illustrate that even adherents to the
       theory agree that the predictions are false."
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       &#128367;&#65039; "It is not controversial that a great many
       predictions made by Darwin’s theory of evolution have been found
       to be false. There is less consensus, however, on how to
       interpret these falsifications. In logic, when a hypothesis
       predicts or entails an observation that is discovered to be
       false, then the hypothesis is concluded to be false. Not so in
       science.
       When a scientific theory makes a prediction that is discovered
       to be false, then sometimes the theory is simply modified to
       accommodate the new finding. Broad, umbrella theories, such as
       evolution, are particularly amenable to &#128521; adjustments."
       Read more:
       Why investigate evolution’s false predictions?
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       Agelbert closing NOTE: Gary Walker went full Ad hominem after
       the above post, true to the Backfire Effect. The graphics are
       mine ;D.
       Gary Walker > Sober Thinking
       Every Scientific Organization supports the Theory of Evolution.
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       The Scientific conensus is that the Theory of Evolution is a
       valid explanation of our biological origin.
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       Don't bother posting novels like this, I am not going to read
       this bullshit, it is a waste of my time.
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       This was my last reply to him:
       Sober Thinking > Gary Walker
       Ad hominem is a fallacious debating technique. Try Science and
       logic for a change. I have reported your post.
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       &quot;... mankind’s appearance on this planet was not
       preordained, that we are &#129421; here … as an afterthought,
       ...&quot; 
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       Date: December 19, 2022, 1:55 pm
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       November 30, 2022, 2:04 PM By Brian Miller &#128330;&#65039;
       [center]Attempts to Reconcile &#129421; Evolutionary Theory with
       &#9757;&#127995; Christianity Lead to Intractable
       Tensions[/center]
       SNIPPET:
       Christians no longer need to accept a secular intellectual
       captivity. They can again embrace a historical understanding of
       Christianity that coherently unifies faith with science and
       provides a strong foundation to defend Christian ethical
       teaching.
       Full article:
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       [move]Because that which may be known of God is manifest in
       them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things
       of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being
       understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power
       and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: ~ Romans
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       The Mother of All Chicken &amp; Egg Problems
       &#128104;&#8205;&#128300;
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       [center]The Mother of All Chicken & Egg Problems
       &#128104;&#8205;&#128300; (Your &#9757;&#127995; Designed
       Body)[/center]
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       Discovery Science 180K subscribers
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       Engineer Steve Laufmann
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       />discusses "the mother of all chicken and egg problems" that
       can
       be found in the human body. Laufmann is co-author of the book
       Your Designed Body:
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       Every day, your body must solve hundreds of hard engineering
       problems simultaneously, or else you’ll die. In the book, Your
       Designed Body, systems engineer Steve Laufmann and physician
       Howard Glicksman explore this extraordinary system of thousands
       of ingenious and interdependent engineering solutions that
       impact your heart, your lungs, your feet, your eyes and ears,
       and more.
       Praise of Your Designed Body
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       > “A masterful synthesis of modern medicine and
       engineering.”—Stephen C. Meyer, PhD, author of Return of the God
       Hypothesis
       >
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       > “Captivating… a magnificent and much-needed accomplishment—the
       indispensable book on the intelligent design of the human
       body.”—Michael Egnor, MD, Professor of Neurosurgery and
       Pediatrics at State University of New York, Stony Brook
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       > “A brilliant tour of the mind-boggling interactive complexity
       of the human body.”—William S. Harris, PhD, Professor of
       Internal Medicine, Sanford School of Medicine, University of
       South Dakota
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       > “I particularly enjoyed the way the authors tackled claims
       about ‘botched design.’”—David Galloway, MD, former President,
       Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow
       --- End Quote ---
       About the Authors
       Steve Laufmann is a computer scientist and consultant in the
       engineering of enterprise-class computer systems. Dr. Howard
       Glicksman is a general practitioner with more than forty years
       of medical experience in office and hospital settings.
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       The Mandelbrot Set: Atheists’ WORST Nightmare
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       Date: December 26, 2022, 5:46 pm
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       [center]The Mandelbrot &#9757;&#127995; Set: Atheists’ WORST
       Nightmare[/center]
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       307,754 views  Dec 16, 2022
       In this powerful lecture, Dr. Jason Lisle &#128330;&#65039;
       reveals a secret code seen throughout creation: the Mandelbrot
       set. Why is the Mandelbrot set atheists’ worst nightmare?
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       that you’ve probably never seen before.
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       &#128226; &quot;Academics are KNOWN to be COWARDS.&quot; James
       Tour &#10024; &#128077;
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       Date: December 29, 2022, 4:02 pm
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       [center]James Tour &#10024;: Top &#128104;&#8205;&#128300;
       Scientist on &#9757;&#127995; God and the Origin of
       Life[/center]
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       Jews for Jesus 28.9K subscribers 9,040 views  Jun 24, 2022
       We invite you to join us for Conversations with Jewish Believers
       in Jesus, hosted by Jeff Morgan. This is the full interview
       where Jeff talks with Jewish scientist James Tour
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       Dr. Tour EXPOSES the False Science Behind Origin of Life
       Research
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       Date: January 4, 2023, 7:11 pm
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       [center]Dr. Tour EXPOSES the False Science Behind
       &#128586;&#128585;&#128584; Origin of Life Research
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       197,397 views  Oct 4, 2022  RICE UNIVERSITY
       #abiogenesis #originoflife #evolution
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       Dr. Tour UNMASKS Double-Standards &amp; Inaccurate Commentary -
       Steve Benner, Part 01
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       Date: January 10, 2023, 12:44 pm
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       [center]Dr. Tour
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       Dr. Tour UNMASKS Double-Standards & Inaccurate Commentary -
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       00:00 Memoirs of a Synthetic Chemist
       03:04 On Autocatalysis & Insufficient Backgrounds
       05:16 Fairytale Island — No Problems, No Cry
       06:15 Synthetic Chemist "Embarrassing Blunders"
       06:28 Synthesizing Double Standards
       07:21 Chemistry Theory vs Reality
       07:47 Benner's World of G-D Problems
       09:35 Extra, Extra! Autocatalysis!
       11:43 The Lie Detector
       14:25 God of the Gaps? No.
       16:06 RE: Religion: What Jim Said
       16:51 What Was Steve Watching?
       18:07 RE: Atmospheres: What Jim Said
       19:26 Putting Words In Jim's Mouth
       20:40 Jim Wants What?
       24:44 RE: Sutherland et al
       26:14 RE: Richert: What Jim Said
       27:17 TL;DR — Steve's Comments, Misdirected
       27:55 Next Time: Steve Benner, Part 02
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       [center]Martin Luther King’s &#128226; Powerful Critique of
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       [center]Dr. Tour MINES Data on Origin of Life
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       After witnessing Dr. Steve Benner's misrepresentation of Dr.
       Tour and his statements on origin of life (OOL), in this
       episode, we now turn to Benner's chemistry. Looking beyond mere
       titles and abstracts, we dig into Benner's data, exploring how
       it suffers from excessive human involvement, despite Benner
       himself criticizing the notion. After reminding us of the
       Cannizzaro dilemma and how time presents a problem for synthetic
       degradation, Dr. Tour
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       being completely useless for further reactions. Nevertheless,
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       />"hands off" approach, but using "hands on" from other
       chemists,
       who provide the alleged missing human involvement and relay
       synthesis along the way, let alone, chemists whose papers reveal
       they purchased chemicals as by-products from living sources,
       rending those paths prebiotically irrelevant as well. Dr. Tour
       also exposes OOL's problem of picking and choosing molecules
       only when it strikes one's fancy, for example, magnesium
       chloride and all the amino acids, while abrogating DAP's OOL
       relevance to boot. Things are not so pure as they seem (and as
       the chemistry requires), and chemists who extrapolate their
       claims should simply know better.
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