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USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year old m
ale yellow belts
By: Sportsmom Date: July 17, 2014, 9:49 pm
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In reviewing the poomsae results you will find 6-7 year old male
yellow belts were the ONLY sizable group (23 boys in all) to NOT
get a preliminary and final round.
The girls did, all the other belts with a group with 12 or more
did. But not yellow males.
And how many of the top 4 get jumbled around from prelim to
final....check out the results for precedence....the answer is
MOST OF THEM!
THEY OWE A LETTER OF APOLOGY TO ALL TOP 12 BOYS THEY SCREWED OUT
OF A CHANCE IN A FINAL ROUND MEDAL!!!
Shows you how much they care about this age group!
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Re: USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year o
ld male yellow belts
By: Marylandparent Date: July 22, 2014, 4:32 am
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The poomsae bracketing was hard to follow in the begining like
they jwere trying to figure out a system that works. First,
second and third place winners of red belts 15-17 females
poomsae all competed last year as red belts. First was won by a
2nd dan and second place by a 1st dan.
I can not completely blame the girls, their parents and coaches
are teaching them it is ok to do anything to win,and that a
medal is more important than integraty.
#Post#: 332--------------------------------------------------
Re: USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year o
ld male yellow belts
By: Gorilla Date: July 22, 2014, 7:53 am
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Glad to see new people posting...it is sad that people are
dropping rank just to get a medal...a real dishonor to their
students...why are the parents allowing this to happen...
The talented fight up not down....
#Post#: 333--------------------------------------------------
Re: USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year o
ld male yellow belts
By: TaekwondoDad Date: July 22, 2014, 10:21 am
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I called out a team full of 2nd dans fighting as red belts at a
local tournament this spring. The tournament director was even
aware of it. Got a bunch of excuses from parents and coaches
for why it was ok and why it would be unfair for the "athletes"
to have to fight in their proper divisions. For some tournament
directors it is all about getting the fees and for some
athletes/coaches/parents it is all about getting a medal whether
or not is truly means anything.
#Post#: 334--------------------------------------------------
Re: USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year o
ld male yellow belts
By: Marylandparent Date: July 22, 2014, 12:57 pm
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After posting today I wondered, if the school would allow 2 of
the students to compete down to win, then how many other
students in their school did the same.
1 6-7 year old blue belt male
1 12-14 year old red belt male
1 12-14 year old blue belt female
as well as the 2 14-17 year old red belt females
All 5 competed last year in the same division. All 3 red belts
are/ were black belt. I understand it is not fair for a first
dan to have to compete against a 3rd dan but at least nobody is
hiding their rank in that division. If you don't think your
student/ child is ready for world class division then don't
allow them to compete. There is always other activities that
they can do to perticipate, referee, judge, volunteer
.
My daughter competes primary in poomsae because of the concept
that anyone wearing a belt of similar color is equal and we
shall spar regardless of size, or age. At least when a 2nd dan
sneaks in her division then all she can do is hurt her pride.
But all in all what is the point of competing down a rank or
two. My daughter will not even accept a win if there is not
anyone in her division.
#Post#: 335--------------------------------------------------
Re: USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year o
ld male yellow belts
By: TaekwondoDad Date: July 22, 2014, 1:15 pm
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I am not sure why you would think a 3rd dan fighting a 1st dan
is not fair. The rules provide for one division for all black
belts. The rules define what is fair. Ergo there is no issue
there.
As far as people fighting down. It shows a complete lack of
integrity on behalf of the coach/master, athlete and parents.
I always figure that if a coach/master is having his athletes
fight down that it shows how crappy his/her school is and that
he/she is giving out money belts that don't accurately reflect
the students/athletes' abilities.
The switching of belts at competition should be a sign for
parents to find a new school.
#Post#: 336--------------------------------------------------
Re: USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year o
ld male yellow belts
By: Marylandparent Date: July 22, 2014, 2:24 pm
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Im sorry not that a 1st dan fighting a 3rd dan is unfair, but I
can understand where a parent, coach, or athlete may be
overwelmed when paired with a 3rd dan. If your not confadent
against the 3rd dan then go back to the dojang and train.
#Post#: 338--------------------------------------------------
Re: USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year o
ld male yellow belts
By: Mad Dog Date: July 22, 2014, 7:05 pm
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The black belt dans are generally separate by the time they get
to Nationals. 3rd Dans will usually be in World Class while 1st
Dan are usually in grassroots. Remember I said usually, there
are always exceptions. In some states, where all you have to do
is show up to qualify for World Class, you just have to realize
that your 1st dan might be fighting a 3rd dan at Nationals.
#Post#: 339--------------------------------------------------
Re: USAT Poomsae results....anyone catch the error in 6-7 year o
ld male yellow belts
By: Marylandparent Date: July 22, 2014, 7:54 pm
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I see, that makes sense.
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