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#Post#: 493--------------------------------------------------
Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Ladytkd Date: January 6, 2015, 8:50 am
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Yesterday the USAT Media Person, Steve, said "Until you read an
official announcement from USA Taekwondo it is not policy.
There has not been any official announcement on this matter. We
cannot control rumor-mongering and speculation unfortunately."
Well Steve you can control it. How about not posting that
policy on the internet? How about you go to page 8 of the 22
page State Association Manual for 2015 - what does it say?
Notice this was updated 12/4/14 and is the current manual. If
you need help finding it, do what everyone else, just ask me and
I will send you the USAT link.
Allow me to assist you - "All State Championships must use and
follow the USA Taekwondo rules and regulations. For current
sparring and poomsae rules please refer to the following link,
HTML http://www.teamusa.org/USA‐Taekwondo/Events/Competition‐Rules.aspx
ALL athletes will be required to wear USAT or WTF approved Dobok
and Equipment. This must be strickly enforced by State
Association and the assigned referees. For list of USAT and/or
WTF approved equipment visit the USAT Website."
You know it is an officlal USAT document because:
a) the typo. There is no K in strictly.
b) the list of USAT and/or WTF Approved equipment isn't on the
USAT website, or if it is, it is hidden.
It is also an official announcement when the USAT CEO announces
the policy at the Annual Congress. Too bad no one listens in.
Steve - does that get official enough for you?
One of the idiotic and predictable things about USAT when they
get busted with stupidity, they come out with "rumor mongering"
and "naysayers" and "internet conspiracy" and then someone pulls
one of USAT's own documents and proves them wrong. Typical. You
would think a Media Specialist would understand how this sort of
thing works. Use those words and all you do is fan the flames
and draw more interest to it.
And BTW Steve - where is the link to the "USAT is Listening"
page - can't find it either without scrolling back to the 11/6
news article or google.
#Post#: 494--------------------------------------------------
Re: Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Bagehot Date: January 6, 2015, 9:56 am
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Oh man, this is the problem with transient staff and transient
board members, all dependent on one person, the CEO, to do
everything, know everything, and monitor everything.
The Governance Task Force report predicted that this structure
would have this result. It detailed why.
It is happening before our eyes: declining membership, lack of
Aspire accounting, a befuddled effort to have yet another
mascot, no magazine for over a year, lack of accountability of
"Board" chaired committees to follow the bylaws, any bylaw, lack
of progress on "governance," an apparent lack of interest in a
"Strategic Plan," bizarre rumors regarding coaching staff, an
extremely late 990 filing.
And then condescending posturing about "rumors" that aren't
rumors sending everyone into wondering finally even what uniform
brands to buy and wear? And wondering if this organization has
any competence or credibility left at all?
The public relations being presented by the USAT is "not good."
#Post#: 495--------------------------------------------------
Re: Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Bagehot Date: January 6, 2015, 11:23 am
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[quote]Yesterday the USAT Media Person, Steve, said "Until you
read an official announcement from USA Taekwondo it is not
policy. There has not been any official announcement on this
matter. We cannot control rumor-mongering and speculation
unfortunately."[/quote]
The comment, aside from its staggering arrogance and
condescension arising out of the ignorance of our "Media
Specialist," is the idea that USAT's "vendor" was the one out
there spreading the "rumor," and the "rumor" appears to have
arisen from the actions of someone in the USAT making it an
official policy requiring the state associations to enforce it
at some point in time when the State Manual was written, but not
read by the "Media Specialist," whose job description nowhere
states that he gets paid to spread rumors and disinformation by
denouncing published USAT policy by attacking those of the USAT
Membership who were on the receiving end of the information from
the "vendor" or who took the time that he did not to read the
written policy.
The fact is, any organization controls absolutely "rumor
mongering" and "speculation" by transparency, communicating
well, and creating confidence and credibility within its
Membership, including prospective donors, in the ability of the
organization to manage the franchise and promote the "brand."
The "Media Specialist" apparently wanted to make himself
"Exhibit A" of how "not to do it."
None of this goes to the issue of whether it is a good policy or
not, the idea of the Media Specialist himself shining a light on
an apparent lack of internal communication in the USAT itself,
the likely approval of a poorly thought out policy by a Board
(or somebody) acting in an ad hoc fashion, and the wonderment of
an organization that imposes a requirement that apparently
violates the WTF sanction.
For those of who would like to see this thing work, the issue
that the Media Specialist apparently chose to highlight is the
fact that this is no longer an issue of "somebody asleep at the
switch," it begs the question as to whether there is even a
switch.
The "Media Specialist" used the word "unfortunately." It was a
nice irony.
#Post#: 496--------------------------------------------------
Re: Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Bagehot Date: January 6, 2015, 11:34 am
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[quote]One of the idiotic and predictable things about USAT when
they get busted with stupidity, they come out with "rumor
mongering" and "naysayers" and "internet conspiracy" and then
someone pulls one of USAT's own documents and proves them
wrong.[/quote]
"Unfortunately," our "Media Specialist" chose to frame his own
ignorance using words very similar to those used by David
Askinas and Eric Parthen to denounce those who sought
successfully USOC Section 10 remedies in an effort to halt the
downward spiral occurring under those two CEOs.
That's an "attitude" problem, that was very much the cause of
the near-loss of NGB recognition and the extended USOC
probation.
USAT doesn't need it.
#Post#: 497--------------------------------------------------
Re: Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Ladytkd Date: January 6, 2015, 11:40 am
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[quote author=Bagehot link=topic=129.msg495#msg495
date=1420564999]
The comment, aside from its staggering arrogance and
condescension arising out of the ignorance of our "Media
Specialist," is the idea that USAT's "vendor" was the one out
there spreading the "rumor," and the "rumor" appears to have
arisen from the actions of someone in the USAT making it an
official policy requiring the state associations to enforce it
at some point in time when the State Manual was written, but not
read by the "Media Specialist," whose job description nowhere
states that he gets paid to spread rumors and disinformation by
denouncing published USAT policy by attacking those of the USAT
Membership who were on the receiving end of the information from
the "vendor" or who took the time that he did not to read the
written policy.
The fact is, any organization controls absolutely "rumor
mongering" and "speculation" by transparency, communicating
well, and creating confidence and credibility within its
Membership, including prospective donors, in the ability of the
organization to manage the franchise and promote the "brand."
The "Media Specialist" apparently wanted to make himself
"Exhibit A" of how "not to do it."
None of this goes to the issue of whether it is a good policy or
not, the idea of the Media Specialist himself shining a light on
an apparent lack of internal communication in the USAT itself,
the likely approval of a poorly thought out policy by a Board
(or somebody) acting in an ad hoc fashion, and the wonderment of
an organization that imposes a requirement that apparently
violates the WTF sanction.
For those of who would like to see this thing work, the issue
that the Media Specialist apparently chose to highlight is the
fact that this is no longer an issue of "somebody asleep at the
switch," it begs the question as to whether there is even a
switch.
The "Media Specialist" used the word "unfortunately." It was a
nice irony.
[/quote]
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#Post#: 498--------------------------------------------------
Re: Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Ladytkd Date: January 6, 2015, 7:13 pm
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Ever met a referee that didn't enforce a rule? According to
staff - "It hasn't been added to the State Championships manual
- it has always been in there I am told, but the rule has never
been enforced."
They really should have someone familiar with it all and who
knows we fact check. In fact, it was added only to the 2015 and
was not in the 2014 or 2013 manuals - see the screen prints. So
WRONG.
So if it just appeared this year - how could it "never
enforced"?
More than that, we are talking gear. Now, I am assuming that
Steve does not know the difference between "approved" and
"required" gear. Required gear rules have not changed in years.
However, USAT has never had "approved;" while WTF has had
"approved" pretty much all along.
I also can't see CEO Harris, referee that he is, saying that the
equipment rules were not enforced as there are no referees in
the National corp that would ever ignore a rule. So basically,
once again, staff is putting out bad information.
#Post#: 499--------------------------------------------------
Re: Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Ladytkd Date: January 6, 2015, 7:49 pm
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Ever met a referee that didn't enforce a rule? In an answer on
the "APPROVED" equipment issue, according to staff - "It hasn't
been added to the State Championships manual - it has always
been in there I am told, but the rule has never been enforced."
They really should have someone familiar with it all and who
knows we fact check. In fact, it was added only to the 2015 and
was not in the 2014 or 2013 manuals - see the screen prints. So
WRONG. Will get those posted, or go see my Facebook Sport
Taekwondo Today page. Very clearly the paragraph about States
enforcing a rule where athletes must have "Approved" USAT or WTF
equipment and to see the USAT website for the list that never
existed. The pages are not the same and this was added this
year. In fact the document reads AMENDED 12/4/14. Hello -
Staff!!! It Changed.
So if it just appeared this year - how could it "never
enforced"?
More than that, we are talking gear. Now, I am assuming that
Steve does not know the difference between "approved" and
"required" gear. Required gear rules have not changed in years.
However, USAT has never had "approved;" while WTF has had
"approved" pretty much all along.
I also can't see CEO Harris, referee that he is, saying that the
equipment rules were not enforced as there are no referees in
the National corp that would ever ignore a rule. So basically,
once again, staff is putting out bad information. You can't "not
enforce a rule" that doesn't exist.
Personally I think that Staff, new as he is, does not
distinguish between required and approved uniforms and
equipment. So when he asks if the uniform rules have changed,
the answer is NO. Of course not. But he probably is asking the
wrong question.
I still don't think Vision would have paid to have uniforms
created that have the USAT logo on them, after 10 years of not
having them, and trying to sell "Official Uniforms" for $30 more
than their Deluxe Uniform if Vision had not been told about the
Branded USAT program. The CEO would not have announced a program
at the Annual Congress if there was no intent to implement the
program.
I also think that USAT should consider helping out new guy with
culture and history, also where to find copies of old documents.
#Post#: 500--------------------------------------------------
Re: Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Bagehot Date: January 7, 2015, 12:58 am
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[quote]According to staff - "It hasn't been added to the State
Championships manual - it has always been in there I am told,
but the rule has never been enforced."
They really should have someone familiar with it all and who
knows we fact check. In fact, it was added only to the 2015 and
was not in the 2014 or 2013 manuals - see the screen prints. So
WRONG.[/quote]
"I am told?"
By who?
Organizations lose credibility by making ridiculous and false
claims.
What is the purpose of making self-gratifying claims that are
simply false? To harm the credibility of the organization?
There is a rule in public relations: "If you don't know the real
answer, don't comment." Don't just make stuff up.
This is amateur hour.
Parents. donors, supporting organizations, and athletes watch
this, and make their judgments accordingly.
#Post#: 508--------------------------------------------------
Re: Note to USAT Media Specialist about Rumor Mongering
By: Ladytkd Date: January 7, 2015, 7:27 pm
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The uniform comments have moved to a new url -
HTML http://usataekwondo.uservoice.com/forums/270582-your-suggestions/status/1378043
HTML http://usataekwondo.uservoice.com/forums/270582-your-suggestions/status/1378043.<br
/> I defy you to find them. You can still see the original at
HTML http://usataekwondo.uservoice.com/forums/270582-your-suggestions/suggestions/6714816-usat-approved-uniforms-gear
HTML http://usataekwondo.uservoice.com/forums/270582-your-suggestions/suggestions/6714816-usat-approved-uniforms-gear.<br
/>Now I could swear that the articles were mixed last night and
this am with various notes like "under review" or nothing or
"completed" - all 3 of them.
I am so glad though that Erin figured out where her question
landed - let's see you only have to
[list]
[li]click first on Contact Us,
then scroll down to the tiny print with the link to the page
and pray you got the right one,
then click Give Feedback
and finally you have to click through Hot
- Top
or New - which still doesn't show it and
then click status and change to Completed - how many clicks
is that?
Status then has Under Review,
Planned,
Started and
Completed, so add 3 more clicks to that. This is ridiculous!
Possible 10 clicks to get there!!!!
[/li]
[li][/li]
[/list]
Is this a new record or do they want to say it is there and then
hide it so you can't find it?
However, I am glad now I put myself through this miserable
process. I learned that in the two months since this went live
- there are 3 completed items, including this one they wanted
out of the way. 3 - that's it.
I discovered that the questions which I know have been on there
for awhile and were in fact sent in for the Annual Congress have
no status, no answer no nothing. Bet you can quess what the
questions are!
YES - This is it - no nothing. Not even under review. Listed
under new and it is NOT New!
aspire camp accounting
What happened to the money raised from the aspire camps? Where
is the paper trail on how it was spent?
Also with no status - no nothing -
Team Trails
A lot of coaches are asking time table for team trails, they
need to make sure there athletes are peaking at the right
moments. Thank you for any info. social media is asking.
Gotta love how this is to communicate with members - can't find
it, can't navigate it easily and they don't answer in a timely
fashion and on and on.
Like Bagehot, I would like to say "Good Job" but frankly I can't
even call this a good attempt. Maybe someone should ask them
where the address and phone number and staff list can be found -
outside of Google.
Really?
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