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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: Countrysports Online
Date: November 12, 2014, 5:09 pm
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Out of interest, where is your FEO Based? I would be concerned
about a few points you raised but you have your cert so that is
the main thing.
If you are a member of any shooting association, it may be good
to contact them and inform them of you experience for their info
so that things can be monitored over a period of time incase any
practices that are not legislation or fall within the guidelines
are being practiced.
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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: Cannon
Date: November 12, 2014, 5:45 pm
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--- Quote from: Countrysports Online link ---
>
> Out of interest, where is your FEO Based? I would be
concerned about a few points you raised but you have your cert
so that is the main thing.
>
> If you are a member of any shooting association, it may be
good to contact them and inform them of you experience for their
info so that things can be monitored over a period of time
incase any practices that are not legislation or fall within the
guidelines are being practiced.
>
>
>
--- End Quote ---
The FEO is probably trying to cover his back which is
underatandable, but his interpretation of the guidelines seem to
have been presented to pauli as legislation which is wrong. I'm
all for a good filtering process to make sure headcases don't
get firearms, but not at the expense of a corrupt (for want of a
better word) licencing system, where an individuals opinion can
cause undue hassle.
#Post#: 28508--------------------------------------------------
Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: Pauli 1
Date: November 13, 2014, 5:56 am
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I suspected the experience I had seemed a bit extreme in places,
as I had been given advice on what to expect from at least 5
different sources. You seem to have confirmed that with the
posts above.
I was really surprised about the requirement about 400 yards
clear land in all directions as I had been led to believe that a
shotgun would be passed for a few acres. Also the request about
backdrops. I did challenge him on this, but he didn't waver. I
actually went and got extra permission from a second farmer with
adjoining land, as I was concerned the land I had originally
would be turned down. This has left me a bit downhearted about
my now upcoming request for a .22, as it looks like the land I
submitted originally could have been an issue even though there
are a brave few undulations and hills on it. Not only that,
there are at least 3 shotguns already licenced for it!
All that said, the FAO was a nice bloke, very thorough but got
things done quickly.
Out of interest Cannon, which bits sound unusual to you given
your post above? I felt pretty much the same as the other
poster, that the officer was being ultra cautious, but I would
be interested to see if he was presenting his requirements as
legislation when that was not actually the case.
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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: Cannon
Date: November 13, 2014, 7:35 am
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I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that there
wasn't specific legislation relating to the size of land on
which firearms can be used. Even an acre can be suitable for
rimfire or shotgun etc providing it has adequate backstops. As
for needing a 400 yard fallout distance for a shotgun, if that's
the case then most clubs over here are breaking the law. A
shotgun can travel this distance, but it's up to you to make
sure the shot doesn't leave the land on which you have
permission to shoot, whether it's an acre or 400 acres.
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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: Pauli 1
Date: November 13, 2014, 2:01 pm
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I know. I did push him on it but he wasn't for backing down on
his statement. That said, the land Im approved for certainly
wouldn't meet that requirement so its a bit strange. My local
Cly club has a bungalow right in the firing line, literally in
the next field. Couldn't be more than 250 yards away.
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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: Countrysports Online
Date: November 13, 2014, 6:19 pm
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Canon you are correct, there is no land size regulation for
minimum amount of land.
That was setting alarm bells ringing in my head.
Anyway, the cert is in hand and land registered.
If anyone has problems with the PSNI firearms licencing over an
issue and can not get it resolved, remember the PSNI can ONLY
administer the legislation, they can not make it up. They must
adhere to the legislation and Guidance. Changing legislation is
what the ministers do in releasing legislation which the PSNI
must obey. Go to your shooting reps in BASC, SACS CAI and ask
them to sort out the problem on your behalf.
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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: Pauli 1
Date: November 13, 2014, 7:34 pm
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Interesting CO, and thanks for that. I am a member of the SACS
as of a month ago, but I wouldn't want to land the FAO in shit,
mainly because I am putting in for a few other guns soon! and at
the heels of the hunt, he was a decent fella;)
It seems I had a very conservative FAO by the sounds of things.
I spoke to another new licence holder a few days ago who lives
less than a mile away but in a different jurisdiction , and
their meeting was a tea party compared to mine. But hey ho.
You can understand my reticence to challenge him too much on a
first application. I would have likely got rejected as I can be
an argumentative mofo when I start. I am presuming he was
flexing a bit of muscle, as even though he procrastinated about
400 yards etc, he ultimately passed the land without meeting
that criteria. I suppose I should take comfort in the fact that
I managed to get my licence given all this.
I do seem to get them.
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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: lennyd
Date: November 14, 2014, 10:50 am
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Starting to dread my meeting now application was sent in this
week just got to grab my cabinet and get it fitted on Friday to
get things underway then ask about a few other ideas I have for
it's location.
First one will be no probs but a right pain in the arse to put
the guns away but it's well out of the road and secured to a
block wall. Busting to get my hands on my new wee cz455 and
start scaring the living daylights out of the local rabbits.
Hell I might even hit 1 or 2
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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: big-kev
Date: December 3, 2014, 2:53 pm
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Well folks i met with my FEO today about my licence (have to say
this is the first correspondence i have had since my
application) ;D but ended up like my first interview for a job
:( a few strange questions asked by the feo about medical
history and medical history of other people living at the
address,the land i was going to shoot on and my experience with
firearms ??? , the guy seemed to be dead on and we had a chat
for about 45mins
He then had a look at my safe and around the house for security
advice and just said that he was happy with me and my home and
should see my licence before the new year :)
But there's always a but :D he said he did not under any
circumstances want to see any variations on my licence for at
least 4 months :'(
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Re: First time firearms licence application
DIR By: Countrysports Online
Date: December 3, 2014, 3:02 pm
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Glad your interview went well but I would immediately be on the
ball with the no variations for four months thing. That is not
his call to make. Contact your shooting organisation
immediately and ask them to follow up on this.
There is nowhere in the legislation that says no variation
within 4 months of granting a license. It is your license to
possess firearms and your right to add or alter if you wish and
have justification for each firearm.
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