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       #Post#: 27786--------------------------------------------------
       warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: GEOFF.223
       Date: August 25, 2014, 3:13 am
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       There has been a serious number of rifles being damaged by these
       2 bullets. 2 of which I know personally
       The problem comes from brittle necks which are cracking and
       releasing pressure before bullets leave the barrel.
       All. 17hmr ammo beside Winchester is made by cci and these which
       have been causing a problem wen I first heard about it I said to
       myself, Awell what's the chances of it happening to me then one
       day got to split cases and got paranoid and stopped using.
       Apparently the new batch of ammo doesn't have this problem but
       as there was never a batch numbers listed as faulty how do u
       know which is the bad batch?
       Got some Winchester and there more accurate and a bit louder to
       me. at 100m they were shooting 1" higher than other brand's so
       tells me more velocity
       Anyone had any problems with them?
       #Post#: 27787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: Artie
       Date: August 25, 2014, 3:18 am
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       Hi, just about to get an HMR thanks for the info artie
       #Post#: 27788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: GEOFF.223
       Date: August 25, 2014, 3:23 am
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       I managed to get hold of a new box of federal which is from a
       newer batch of ammo will hopefully be trying them today!
       #Post#: 27789--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: Snap
       Date: August 25, 2014, 4:24 am
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       Good man Geoff.
       #Post#: 27790--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: babbyc1000
       Date: August 25, 2014, 7:08 am
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       I ha a squib with federal last year, round ended up stuck an
       inch into the barrel, lucky I caught it
       #Post#: 27804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: GEOFF.223
       Date: August 25, 2014, 6:54 pm
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       Just took 4 boxes of federal back to gun shop for a swap with
       Winchester.
       Told them I'm not risking ruining my £600 rifles over a box of
       dodgy ammo
       was ask why are they dodgy because there splitting cases on a
       regular basis and each round sounds different from the one
       previous which tells me powder charges must be different.
       #Post#: 27847--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: NoRubNoDub
       Date: August 27, 2014, 12:56 pm
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       Funny I only got my firearm last month and I had a mild heart
       attack when I noticed the 3rd round I fired had cracked the neck
       (17GR V-max Hornady) I went online and found quite a few people
       talking about it. One had got on to Hornady and they explained
       that it was due to the pressure in the HMR and there annealing
       process. Some of their rounds can be over or under annealed due
       to them being a non reloaded brass and not having the same
       stringent process.
       I've kept an eye on them since and seems that one or two will
       crack in every 50 batch. Still seems to hold accurancy and
       velocity however so the crack must occur as the neck is
       contracting after the round has left. Is there a real danger of
       damage?
       #Post#: 27853--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: Artie
       Date: August 28, 2014, 4:12 pm
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       Hi is their much difference between Winchester and Hornady hmr
       bullets as far as accuracy / trajectory and stopping power is
       concerned, I have just ordered an HMR rifle waiting variation,
       tks artie
       #Post#: 27910--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: GEOFF.223
       Date: September 3, 2014, 7:33 pm
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       I took the. 17 out today to check accuracy again as I have not
       been happy with it as my first 17hmr I got 5 years ago would put
       10 shoots inside a 10p at 100 yards all day long the new one
       would put all ten in the side of a 40 footer at 3 paces.
       So after reading loads about 17hmr,s online apparently they get
       better after a few hundred rounds so give it a good clean and
       took it to the field and rammed 250 bullets down it cleaning
       after every 100 and we'll it worked it's now giving me constant
       1" groups a 100yards compared to the 2" before so must be some
       truth in it. I have put over 600 rounds though it now
       I was considering bore lapping but had old ammo I didn't like
       and thought worth a try going to test more tomorrow as I have
       more. 223 loads to also check  ;D
       #Post#: 27913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: warning .17hmr owners federal and hornady ammo problem
   DIR By: Flatliner
       Date: September 4, 2014, 6:11 am
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       On the ammo, when I first got my hmr, I shot about 600 rounds of
       Federal through mine and only had one slow burner, ie. heard the
       click of the firing pin a split second before it when bang. That
       batch of ammo was bought about 3 years ago.  I've switched to
       Hornady as they now group as well as the Federal did, although
       that wasn't the case when I first got the rifle, and the Hornady
       is a bit cheaper. I've seen my fair share of split cases but
       I've never really felt it was effect accuracy to any great
       degree.
       Would definitely agree that my hmr shot better when after it had
       at least brick of ammo through it. Now whether that's down to
       me,the barrel or the ammo, I just don't know
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