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       #Post#: 26025--------------------------------------------------
       Your opinions please!!!
       By: steamblower Date: May 10, 2014, 12:25 am
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       Guys, after many emails to CZ , I have been given a couple of
       choices and would like some of your honest opinions as I have
       been out of the game for too long.
       Rifle will be used for rabbits, fox at close range and corvids.
       Things have change over the years and my night shooting would
       have been with a lamp on LR or on scope, just using normal
       daylight scope. I see now, you have many night scopes around,
       but at a cost. Is the old way still used? And if so do I need to
       upgrade the scope that is on offer.
       Many questions I know, but I like to spend the money on the
       right set-up. I have no problem in paying for the right tools
       for the job. But just need some guidance from the more
       experienced guys on here.
       1.
       mounts, modulator, SM11 trigger job and up rated FP spring £509
       Inc vat.
       2.
       #Post#: 26027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your opinions please!!!
       By: Turk144 Date: May 10, 2014, 1:10 am
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       Cz 452 i have 1 with 16 inch barrels brilliant wee rifle the hmr
       is a great round too.... Just don't state fox as your quarry on
       application as i understand it it is not a fox approved round
       #Post#: 26028--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your opinions please!!!
       By: babbyc1000 Date: May 10, 2014, 2:30 am
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       Scopes sound workable, personally for hmrs I prefer 16 power but
       that's just me. Most people still use lamps, night vision has
       big limitations IMO as well as advantages. I always said hmr was
       for fox and had no problem, I've yet to hear the psni refuse
       anyone for it (times may have changed tho). But look at it this
       way, if they won't grant it for fox means they'll have to give
       you a centrefire lol
       #Post#: 26033--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your opinions please!!!
       By: steamblower Date: May 10, 2014, 3:33 am
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       Thanks for your input guys. I will look at an up grade on scope.
       I also see that you can get some great wee cgee torches that
       clip on to the scopes. Anyone recommendation guys. I'm fecking
       still in india doing feck all as delays on site and I really
       could be back home getting some money spent and steel cabinet
       fabricated. And pissed off with curry for every meal  >:(
       Really could do with an Ulster fry too ;)
       #Post#: 26041--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your opinions please!!!
       By: davesson Date: May 10, 2014, 9:05 am
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       I was advised by Beatties for a .17 to put for rabbits and foxes
       up to medium range of 200 yards for humane purposes.
       Got my licence in under two weeks. It also allows you to put in
       for a .223 (let's face it you will want one soon enough) stating
       you need it for 200 yards plus.
       #Post#: 26042--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your opinions please!!!
       By: steamblower Date: May 10, 2014, 9:24 am
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       Thanks and yes 223 is on the list too  ;)
       #Post#: 26046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your opinions please!!!
       By: cjm Date: May 10, 2014, 10:20 am
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       17 is not a 200 yard Fox round anyone thinks it is needs there
       head checked.
       #Post#: 26047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your opinions please!!!
       By: davesson Date: May 10, 2014, 10:35 am
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       No I completely agree, I wasn't happy with the result on a bunny
       at 150. However that was the description given to me for use on
       the variation and it worked.
       #Post#: 26056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Your opinions please!!!
       By: babbyc1000 Date: May 10, 2014, 7:31 pm
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       Depends what guns you have, when I had a 22lr and 17hmr the 22
       was mosty for rabbits and the 17 was mostly for fox, important
       word being mostly. Now I've a 17hmr and a .222 the 17 is mostly
       for rabbits and the .222 is mostly for fox.
       I've shot stuff over 200 yards with the hmr but its not ideal,
       wind knocks it about a good bit and at that range you really
       need to be precise in your shot placement. Personally I wouldn't
       mention specific ranges, sometimes giving more info than you
       need to is just giving them the rope to hang you with in
       future... :-\
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