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#Post#: 21582--------------------------------------------------
Getting the most out of your scope
By: babbyc1000 Date: December 27, 2013, 3:20 am
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Here's a good article about getting the best accuracy possible
out of your scope, it talks about air rifles but the principles
apply to all rifles.
HTML http://www.pyramydair.com/article/Scope_shift_and_barrel_droop_two_common_problems_March_2008/46
Im sure plenty of us know most of this already, but for someone
starting out its helpful. I've only ever had one rifle that
didn't need the mounts adjusted/shimmed to get the scope lined
perfectly with the barrel, a marlin 917v 17hmr. All the rest
have needed it to varying degrees, and I'm in the process of
setting up my .222 to be as accurate as possible. Normally I
just used insulating tape under the mounts but this time I'm
going to push the boat out and get adjustable mounts
#Post#: 21586--------------------------------------------------
Re: Getting the most out of your scope
By: Al Dunn Date: December 27, 2013, 3:33 am
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Babby, if you're looking for new mounts take a look at BKL
mounts. They are excellent and the best thing about them is that
the clamping mechanism is machined from solid. This eliminates
the problem associated with the likes of Sportsmatch and Bisley
mounts where they tend to pull the scope away from being
directly above the centre line of the barrel. As you will know,
this causes crossover and is definitely something to be avoided.
Have a look at them. As dovetail clamping mounts go, I don't
think they can be beaten.
Al.
#Post#: 21587--------------------------------------------------
Re: Getting the most out of your scope
By: babbyc1000 Date: December 27, 2013, 3:54 am
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Cheers al, if only things were that simple lol
My cz 527 has a strange rail size, 16mm. Mounts are hard to get,
and any that do fit cost a fortune - the mounts that came with
it (warne mounts)
HTML http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/110829055589?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1
- are a
total waste of time, its never taken me as lon to get a reticle
level as it did with these mounts (and yes that's how much they
cost!!)
So I've bought a 20mm weaver rail adaptor to fit the rifle,
problem is that the fully adjustable mounts are quite high, and
I want to keep the scope as close to the barrel as possible, so
I'm goin to bodge it a bit. I'm getting a set of these mounts
(millet angle loc)
HTML http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/400044438773?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1
to sort
out windage and ill shim up either the back or front of the rail
adaptor using insulating tape. Final thing I'm getting is one of
these scopes, a vector optics 4-16 dorado model (or I may get
the 10-40 colossus model)
HTML http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/120971073304?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1
- I've had
two of these on 17hmrs and they are fantastic, for the simple
reason they come with an internal bubble level at the bottom of
the reticle. Only other scopes I've seen with that feature cost
£800+, which tbh is more than I'd risk putting on a gun that's
going to be used and abused lol
#Post#: 21590--------------------------------------------------
Re: Getting the most out of your scope
By: Al Dunn Date: December 27, 2013, 4:49 am
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Ah I see, didn't realise it was for a CZ.
Sportsmatch do a set for your rifle (HTO74). They're the same
size as a Tikka T3. They didn't used to make them for 30mm
scopes (something I always found strange), but I see they now
do. Of course they also do 25mm too.
If you're going down the shimming route, I'd recommend using
proper brass shim for the job - easily enough available at a
motor factors. A good substitute is the aluminium from a drinks
can. Just cut it to the width you need with scissors. The
problem with insulating tape is that it tends to compress too
much and never gives you a truly solid mounting solution. Also,
use a drop of blue (medium strength) Loctite on your rail
clamping screws. It saves having to remove the scope and
retighten them after a period of time.
Good luck with your project.
Al.
#Post#: 21591--------------------------------------------------
Re: Getting the most out of your scope
By: foxyloxy Date: December 27, 2013, 4:52 am
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[quote author=babbyc1000 link=topic=2629.msg21582#msg21582
date=1388136036]
Here's a good article about getting the best accuracy possible
out of your scope, it talks about air rifles but the principles
apply to all rifles.
HTML http://www.pyramydair.com/article/Scope_shift_and_barrel_droop_two_common_problems_March_2008/46
Im sure plenty of us know most of this already, but for someone
starting out its helpful. I've only ever had one rifle that
didn't need the mounts adjusted/shimmed to get the scope lined
perfectly with the barrel, a marlin 917v 17hmr. All the rest
have needed it to varying degrees, and I'm in the process of
setting up my .222 to be as accurate as possible. Normally I
just used insulating tape under the mounts but this time I'm
going to push the boat out and get adjustable mounts
[/quote]
U serious lad?? I have scopes on four rifles & never once had
that problem.
I've a 527 as well Babby. My only problem was the Leupold scope
I've on it needed lots of eye relief & was very uncomfortable in
the prone position. I ordered a 0 MOA picatinny rail from DIP
indudtries in the states.
I have Warne mounts on the 223 & sportsmatch on the rest with no
problems whatsoever.
As Al says, insulating tape would be no good as it would
compress. The negatives you used to get from photographs will
also work as shims if you need more elevation.
FL
#Post#: 21592--------------------------------------------------
Re: Getting the most out of your scope
By: babbyc1000 Date: December 27, 2013, 6:12 am
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Yep very serious, the only one that didn't need jigged about was
the marlin 917, the mossberg hmr was the worst (527 isnt looking
great either) tho i still have to rule out me canting the rifle.
once the mossberg was sorted was very accurate, just with a few
bits of tape under the mounts (between mount and rail, not scope
and mount). Insulating tape might not work as well on a
centrefire but i guarantee you it worked perfect for hmrs and
22lrs, the fact it compresses helped as i could layer up several
small pieces to get the adjustment needed. Again not saying
it'll work for everyone, just what worked for me!
Hmm as for the Warne mounts each to their own I suppose, I don't
like how you have to loosen the whole mount to level the scope,
prefer mounts with a removable top ring, so can put the mount on
solid and fiddle with the scope, but that's just me :-\
Thanks al I saw some of the mounts for the cz but I think ill go
down the weaver adaptor route. I've a habit of changing scopes
(read breaking scopes) so the weaver rail will give more
flexibility than having to buy more mounts
#Post#: 21593--------------------------------------------------
Re: Getting the most out of your scope
By: Al Dunn Date: December 27, 2013, 7:01 am
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Yes Babby, the weaver's a good option from the swapping point of
view.
You could get yourself an NV rig and swap between the two. :)
Al.
#Post#: 21595--------------------------------------------------
Re: Getting the most out of your scope
By: Salar6 Date: December 27, 2013, 8:05 am
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HTML http://www.sportsmatch-uk.com/black
I had a problem getting mounts for my 1968 BRNO and got a a pair
of adapters to make it 11mm for scope mounting. Searched for
months and was quoted funny money til I found these.
Salar6
#Post#: 21710--------------------------------------------------
Re: Getting the most out of your scope
By: foxyloxy Date: December 30, 2013, 9:36 am
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I agree with u on the warne mounts, its a damn awkward way to
line up a scope.
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