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Fiocchi 223 ammo
By: Secret assassin Date: December 7, 2013, 11:56 am
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Iv heard some good report on these anyone using them specially
in a howa 1500😜🔫
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Re: Fiocchi 223 ammo
By: GEOFF.223 Date: December 18, 2013, 12:27 am
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Sako arrow heads in my howa are mind bending
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Re: Fiocchi 223 ammo
By: Al Dunn Date: December 18, 2013, 2:16 am
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If you're using them for fox SA, just make sure they're not FMJ,
as you'll get dangerous over penetration and there's no knowing
where the bullet will end up.
Soft points or ballistic tips only on live quarry.
Al.
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Re: Fiocchi 223 ammo
By: Secret assassin Date: December 18, 2013, 6:42 am
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Honestly Al , I'm not sure I think the ballistic but not 100%
there supposed to be good rounds seen A vid of Paul dowlings and
they shot a coke bottle at 600 yard with them, I also hear PPU
ammo is good and priced well?? But I'm not sure I'm new to 223
ammo
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Re: Fiocchi 223 ammo
By: Al Dunn Date: December 18, 2013, 10:11 am
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[quote author=Sharpshooter link=topic=2527.msg21159#msg21159
date=1387356405]
Over penetration should not be a factor as you should
Have a suitable backstop before discharging
A round
[/quote]
That's obvious Sharpshooter, but FMJ rounds are much more prone
to ricochets. That's the point I was making.
FMJ are absolutely not recommended for use on live quarry.
[quote author=Sharpshooter link=topic=2527.msg21165#msg21165
date=1387370793]
I use hornady 55 gr ballistic tip for quarry at £19
For 20 and I buy tullamo steel case for plinking
At stuff for £3.40 for 20 and to be honest you
Will still shoot a fox with them at 200 yards
No problems
[/quote]
As for tulammo being ok on fox at 200 yards?
On another thread you showed your grouping with tul at 100
yards. I'd say this ammo is most definitely NOT suitable to be
used on live quarry if these are the groups you were getting at
100 yards with it. I can only imagine what that would do to a
fox, if it was to open up to double that at 200 yards. ( link to
previous thread below )
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That's a six inch shoot'n'c, right?
Al.
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Re: Fiocchi 223 ammo
By: Al Dunn Date: December 18, 2013, 12:25 pm
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Your tulammo group photo show a 6" group at 100 yards.
Let me say that again just so there's no confusion. A six inch
group at one hundred yards
That equates to a round that groups at 12" in your rifle at 200
yards.
Suitable for live quarry? I think not.
When you're qualifying for your DSC1 you are required to put all
your rounds within a target 4" diameter, and a deer is a much
larger animal than a fox. So how can you say that a round which
groups 12" at 200 yards is suitable for hunting live quarry?
Take this example, a fox is quartering towards you at 200 yards.
You aim for the centre of the chest with your tulammo. The round
hits 12" off the mark (as demonstrated by your photo linked to
above). This means that you may have just struck a fox at it's
rear - possibly breaking a leg.
Do you think that is an acceptable situation? Humane? Ethical?
As regards the legality of using FMJ for live quarry:
Illegal? No
Unethical? I'd say so.
Al.
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Re: Fiocchi 223 ammo
By: Al Dunn Date: December 18, 2013, 1:19 pm
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Sharpshooter,
The reason I felt compelled to comment on your post was that the
thing with these types of forum is that inexperienced shots tend
to read them and think that everything they read is right.
I still stand by the belief that a round which potentially
groups at 12" at 200 yards is certainly not suitable to hunt
with. Ask anyone who knows anything about hunting and I'll
guarantee that they'll agree with me.
As far as me not posting any pics of dead animals - why would I
want to do that ?
I've been hunting long enough not to get excited enough to
photograph everything I shoot.
A dealer once told me that when he sees the phone coming out and
pictures being shown, it's a sure sign that the photo shows the
exception rather than the norm on a hunting trip, as far as that
shooter is concerned.
Have to say I agree with him. Pictures of dead stuff doesn't
excite me. Maybe I'm a bit strange that way (....or maybe not?)
Nor do I feel the need to justify my shooting ability. I know my
abilities, and more importantly, where hunting is concerned, my
limitations.
If you don't like my contributions to the forum Sharpshooter,
please feel free to add me to your ignore list.
I do try and help less experienced shooters, if you see that as
me being some sort of 'know it all', then that's unfortunate.
But when I see a post that may mislead new shooters and possibly
show our sport in a bad light, I will comment.
Sorry if that offends you.
Al.
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Re: Fiocchi 223 ammo
By: Al Dunn Date: December 18, 2013, 1:42 pm
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Yes, and I quantified my advice re FMJs in my next post.
We all have our own ways of conducting ourselves when we hunt.
You do it your way and I'll stick with mine.
We'll leave it at that.
Regards,
Al.
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