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       #Post#: 20354--------------------------------------------------
       judging distance at night
   DIR By: jimbo
       Date: December 4, 2013, 3:51 pm
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       Anyone else have really bad problems judging the distance at
       night time with the lamp?...... i do lol was out last night and
       decided to give the fox call a blast 2 mins late i had 3 foxes
       standing in the field!!!!!!!!!!!! however one came at me that
       fast before i knew it he was 15 yards off me. so i gave a shout
       to stop him but he just veered off to the right and bounced into
       a hedge ffs. the other 2 retreated aswell ffs. anyway went to
       the next farm and spotted a rabbit at what i thought was 60
       yards. ( i have the rifle zeroed for 60) put the cross hairs on
       him and squeezed , bullet struck the bank about 3 inches above
       his head ffs. i'm finding it hard to judge the ranges at night.
       but during the day i guess them..then step them out and am
       always very close to what i guessed, give or take a yard or 2.
       just wondering has anyone any tips?
       #Post#: 20357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: Miroku38
       Date: December 4, 2013, 4:30 pm
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       Wander your permission during the day...
       You'll get a feel for your usual places you want to shoot from,
       then get points of reference that will help you range..
       Or, get cardboard cut outs of your quarry animal, place them at
       measured distances then look at them through the scope (if
       you've a mil-dot scope or similar then you can measure how many
       dots animals appear at different ranges)
       Also, what type and colour of light are you  using...? I find it
       hardest to range with red light...
       Other than that, get out and practice more
       #Post#: 20358--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: jimbo
       Date: December 4, 2013, 4:45 pm
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       cheers for the reply.. im using a white light and the odd time a
       red. i know the land quite well but always seem off on my
       distances at night. i guess it will just be practice practice
       practice for a while :)
       #Post#: 20359--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: Snap
       Date: December 4, 2013, 5:11 pm
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       Its very hard to judge at night. I usually alway over estimate
       the distance causing me to put the bullet or pellet over its
       head.
       #Post#: 20360--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: Michael
       Date: December 4, 2013, 5:25 pm
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       Jimbo I was having the same trouble as yourself, what I did was
       got some reflectors off old bikes and set them out with the
       range finder in the daylight, then went back at night with the
       lamp to try and get used to the distance, improved my judgment
       slightly  :)
       Try setting a reflector beside your caller them you will know
       how close the fox is roughly, but try not to shoot the caller
       lol ;D
       #Post#: 20361--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: jimbo
       Date: December 4, 2013, 5:26 pm
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       same here snap. always think they are further out.
       #Post#: 20362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: jimbo
       Date: December 4, 2013, 5:28 pm
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       michael i will give that a go..... however i will need to get
       some double sided sticky tape to stick the reflector to the
       caller as it is usually in my mouth pmsl :)
       #Post#: 20363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: Michael
       Date: December 4, 2013, 5:33 pm
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       Lmao maybe not such a good idea putting reflectors on your mouth
       call lol,,, I thought you were using a u caller or something
       similar lol, calls on the iPhone work great for me ;)
       But remember not to shot ur phone  ;D ;D
       #Post#: 20365--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: jimbo
       Date: December 4, 2013, 6:12 pm
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       talking of that. i have been trying to download a vixen call to
       the phone. no joy ffs. do u know of a site to get them?
       #Post#: 20369--------------------------------------------------
       Re: judging distance at night
   DIR By: Michael
       Date: December 5, 2013, 5:31 am
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       Best option I found was to buy a fox call cd from eBay for £1.50
       then transfare onto phone m8, there is cracker vixan calls on it
       m8 ;)
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