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       #Post#: 17475--------------------------------------------------
       Re: .17 hmr
       By: Secret assassin Date: October 27, 2013, 12:27 pm
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       Al , what are good ballistic tips ammo to use? Iv heard these V
       max are good and zombies they have green plastic heads I think.
       #Post#: 17480--------------------------------------------------
       Re: .17 hmr
       By: Al Dunn Date: October 27, 2013, 2:25 pm
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       Yes, vmax are excellent bullets, as are Sierra Blitzkings. I
       haven't tried the Zombies but I'd imagine they're pretty much
       like the vmax.
       What calibre are you loading? For .204 the 39gn Blitzkings are
       excellent, provided your rifle's twist can take them.
       In .223 the 53gn vmax are very good and have an excellent
       ballistic coefficient which helps them in the crosswinds.
       Al.
       #Post#: 17481--------------------------------------------------
       Re: .17 hmr
       By: Secret assassin Date: October 27, 2013, 2:31 pm
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       Howa 1500 stainless in 223 is what iv put in for
       #Post#: 17487--------------------------------------------------
       Re: .17 hmr
       By: Al Dunn Date: October 27, 2013, 3:13 pm
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       That'll be a 1:12 twist then. Best stay on or below 60gn. Lots
       of people will tell you that 60gn is too heavy for a 12" twist
       but in the right gun, they're excellent.
       If you're initially going to be using factory stuff, I'd be
       inclined to go with Hornady Superformance or for better value,
       the Hornady soft points (£35 per box of 50).
       Good luck with the new rifle.
       Al.
       #Post#: 17497--------------------------------------------------
       Re: .17 hmr
       By: HairyHarvey Date: October 27, 2013, 3:50 pm
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       Thanks Al Dunn. Have been in the' butt party' at Magilligan's
       600 metre range for our club - members shooting from 300 metres
       and further out using a mix of calibres maybe some .223s
       definitely .308s. We were marking hits on targets and patching.
       It concentrates the mind having live rounds whizzing over the
       top of your head, sometimes falling low and short and kicking
       grass and mud round you. Would not like to be a deer or fox.
       #Post#: 17961--------------------------------------------------
       Re: .17 hmr
       By: GEOFF.223 Date: November 2, 2013, 8:37 am
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       [quote author=Al Dunn link=topic=2198.msg17487#msg17487
       date=1382904838]
       That'll be a 1:12 twist then. Best stay on or below 60gn. Lots
       of people will tell you that 60gn is too heavy for a 12" twist
       but in the right gun, they're excellent.
       If you're initially going to be using factory stuff, I'd be
       inclined to go with Hornady Superformance or for better value,
       the Hornady soft points (£35 per box of 50).
       Good luck with the new rifle.
       Al.
       [/quote]
       I have found after wasting loads of money on bullet heads that
       the lead/soft tip bullets like sierra game king and lapua sp are
       more accurate in my howa as I can seat them closer to the lands,
       both projectiles are gibing me 4 shot groups at 100yards of 10mm
       or sub 1/2"moa.
       The ballistic tips (hornady vmax/sierra blitz king) are longer
       bullets and when loading them im 60+thou away from lands to get
       them to fit in magazine. Yes I still getting good groups sizes
       averages hust below a inch but I know it can do better as I
       loaded some up 30thou from lands and hand fed them into chamber
       and I was getting 12mm groups.
       I know I have gone abit extreme here but it nice to know what
       your rifle can realy do.
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