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       New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: .22-250
       Date: September 2, 2013, 11:49 am
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       Hi all so after what seems like ages I have decided to make the
       move and buy a jeep that I have been looking for a long time.
       Has anyone got or ever had a landrover defender? I'm not looking
       one that is already perfect and ready to go but would prefer
       something that needs some work done on it, it would need to be
       running but anything else aesthetically I'm not worried about as
       I'm sure i could do some work to it. Does anyone know of anyone
       looking to sell one?
       #Post#: 13977--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: woodcock1
       Date: September 2, 2013, 12:50 pm
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       I bought this one a few years ago. 1987 110 2.5td
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       Spent a few years turning it into this, not finished yet and
       probably never wiil be. Its had a lot of extras added since this
       photo was taken but you can see the start of the transformation.
       Now has running boards big wheels and off road tyres, spotlights
       bullbar, new engine (200 tdi) clutch mirrors steering..... you
       get the idea. They need plenty of maintenance but its all fairly
       simple. A few spanners and sockets and a good workshop manual.
       Parts are very cheap, though if you buy something rough you will
       need loots of them. Any questions feel free to ask. Its doing 32
       mpg £200 a year tax and £170 for classic insurance. I drive it
       everyday.
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       #Post#: 13979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: Snap
       Date: September 2, 2013, 1:02 pm
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       Class transformation WC.  ;)
       #Post#: 13980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: .22-250
       Date: September 2, 2013, 1:11 pm
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       That's brilliant mate, that's like something I'm after. If you
       don't mind me asking what sort of money have you spent on it in
       total. PM me if you prefer. Looks class. What's it like off
       road. Is there any  major problems with them?
       #Post#: 13981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: devil_bri
       Date: September 2, 2013, 1:18 pm
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       WC, that's very impressive !!
       I wish I had that skill !!!
       #Post#: 13985--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: woodcock1
       Date: September 2, 2013, 2:15 pm
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       I paid if I remember correctly £1400 for it. I then bought for
       £500 a rotten landrover discovery with only 60,000 miles on it
       and took the engine and a few other bits from it. I sold the
       other bits I didnt need like wheels and tyres gearbox axles etc
       and got back the 500 I payed for the whole disco so the engine
       cost me nothing. I sold my old engine for £300 which bought me 4
       new tyres. The painting cost about £300 too.  I would say the
       whole thing to date has cost me less than £3000 including
       servicing and mots for the last 3 years. Saying that I have
       spent countless hours tinkering with it and if I was paying
       someone even £10 per hour for the work I would have cost a
       fortune.
       But as I say they are very easy fixed especially upto about 1997
       when they introduced the 5 cylinder TD5 BMW engine. The best
       years are between 1990 and 97 which were the 200tdi and 300tdi
       series engines. They are the simplest and most economical.
       Second hand parts are readily available as there are thousands
       of discoverys which were rotten but almost unused.
       The defender are prone to rot at the rear crossmember chassis
       outriggers door frames and the bulkhead just below the
       windscreen. Get one with good steelwork and rot free. Everything
       else is easily replaced.
       They leak lots of water but if you go for an older one there
       will also be plenty of holes to let it out again. The heater is
       rubbish so I fitted a night heater (basically oil heating for
       vehicles) from a truck with a timer so it comes on in the
       morning and thaws her out even before I get out of bed.
       I three years of trying I havnt got stuck yet. Been close
       though. Got bogged in the moss with a trailer on once and had to
       climb out the window as I was in that deep I couldnt get the
       door open. I unhooked the trailer and she just drove straight
       out. Put a long strap on the trailer and pulled it out after.
       #Post#: 13988--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: Lee
       Date: September 2, 2013, 3:08 pm
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       That looks well woodcock. What are they like to drive as an
       every day yoke I have my eye on a 1999 110 with 97000 on the
       clock and its just through mot.
       #Post#: 13990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: woodcock1
       Date: September 2, 2013, 3:56 pm
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       I really like driving mine apart from the noise. There is no
       carpet or sound proofing in mine and it does make it noisy. The
       steering is very unresponsive compared to a car. They are
       cramped, especially your right arm as you sit tight against the
       door. Other than that list they are a joy to drive. Seats are
       good, gear changes smooth and due to the low gearing they are
       quite nippy upto 60 mph. Mine will do 70 at a push. They can be
       geared to do more but you loss the pulling power if your towing
       big loads.  Maybe its just me who enjoys it. My wife refuses to
       drive it. They are a sort of marmite thing, love them or hate
       them.
       The only way to find out is to go take a drive in one. A long
       drive!
       As regards pulling a trailer, how big do you want to go. I towed
       this from Bangor to Portglenone, up the hill out of Belfast. It
       was before I done her up and fitted the more powerfull tdi
       engine. Almost 7 1/2 ton including vehicle.
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       #Post#: 13993--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: .22-250
       Date: September 2, 2013, 4:22 pm
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       Cheers for that Woodcock1 I just need to find one like that and
       I will be sorted. Anyone know of anyone selling one?
       #Post#: 13995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Car - Landrover Defender 90 or 110
   DIR By: chid21
       Date: September 2, 2013, 4:28 pm
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       get on ebay for one...
       landys are great wee motors and simple to work on , yes they can
       be cramped inside ...
       if its within your budget try and get the 300tdi engine it was
       by far the best they put in them ... the 200tdi isnt a bad
       engine either ...
       parts for landys are easy to source and are cheap ...
       woodcock thats a cracking job youve done there  ;)
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