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       #Post#: 8834--------------------------------------------------
       first shotgun to get
   DIR By: littlebuffer
       Date: June 3, 2013, 4:17 pm
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       as some of u may know from my last post just i applied for my
       fac but the issue am having now is whats the best shotgun for
       the types of shooting im planing on doing im already in a clay
       shooting club and am planing to go hunting as well but some of
       the people i speak to say they would use a semi auto for both
       then others would just use over and under for all there shooting
       to be honest im liking the look of the semi but are they good
       first time guns as a lot of people say they are famous for
       jamming but u can pick them up cheapish please help  ;D
       #Post#: 8837--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: millrace
       Date: June 3, 2013, 4:43 pm
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       Easy any old holland and holland sbs or a boss will do ya
       rightly.....  8)
       #Post#: 8840--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: babbyc1000
       Date: June 3, 2013, 5:06 pm
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       IMO for your first shotgun go for something simple and reliable.
       I prefer pump actions and semi auto's to any other type of
       shotgun, but pump actions can be hard to get used to (tho
       they're worth it) and personally I've never had a semi auto that
       runs perfect out of the box, and that's benellis, mossbergs,
       hatsans and even a brand new lanber today gave a few problems.
       As much as I hate saying it, as I reallllly don't like them
       myself, but an over and under as a first gun might be best for
       you, especially if ur shootiń a lot of clays  :-X
       #Post#: 8845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: jimbo
       Date: June 3, 2013, 5:33 pm
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       i was told to start on and over and under...did... and havent
       looked back. i love them. easy to break down and clean. reliable
       and as the other lads have mentioned safe. break her open to
       cross ditches and stuff. my vote goes to the o/u. although go
       for what pleases you as you want to be happy with what you have.
       #Post#: 8860--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: littlebuffer
       Date: June 4, 2013, 9:19 am
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       thanks lad for the advise am going up to a gun shop next week to
       pick a shotgun so ill let you's know what one i got thanks again
       fellas  ;D ;D
       #Post#: 8876--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: brendy73
       Date: June 4, 2013, 5:43 pm
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       it is really a personal choice. but me too would recommend an
       o/u for a first gun ;)
       #Post#: 8884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: BenBlaker
       Date: June 5, 2013, 4:54 am
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       The simple reason for people having new semi auto's jamming is
       people NOT READING the instructions. With semi auto's it always
       says THE FIRST 500 ROUNDS SHOULD BE HEAVY LOADS, so say at least
       32 gram, better 36 gram, until its worn in. A BERETTA usually
       runs in within 250 rounds though.
       If you use just 28-30 gram loads, then expect jams until its run
       in.
       However, after its run in it should cycle most any round except
       very weak and old cartridges.
       My Beretta will even cycle 21 gram loads, but also 50 gram
       loads, no problem.
       That said, if you are not familiar with a shotgun, then to
       increase safety (yours and others) I would advise one that you
       can break the barrel (o/u or SBS) so ha everyone can see that it
       can't fire.
       #Post#: 8886--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: babbyc1000
       Date: June 5, 2013, 6:12 am
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       not always ben  :-\  my benelli refused to cycle anything under
       32g, and it couldnt have been any more well run in, part of the
       reason i got rid of it years ago. my mossberg 930 was a
       nightmare at the start, gas piston constantly jamming and the
       firing pin spring was far too heavy and needed shortened, plus
       the part which holds the forend (at the bottom of the magazine
       tube) broke, although once all that was sorted couldnt have
       asked for a more reliable gun. my hatsan escort has been ok-ish,
       few feeding and extraction problems at the start but seems ok
       now, although its only had about 100 shells through it, and as
       for the lanber im still not happy with the cocking handle on it,
       should pop in and out simply, not have to be hammered in like we
       had to do lol but ill maybe pull it apart later and drift that
       pin out see whats up  :(
       #Post#: 8887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: cjm
       Date: June 5, 2013, 6:51 am
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       Cant ever mind my benelli jamming tho my da's has a few times.
       #Post#: 8888--------------------------------------------------
       Re: first shotgun to get
   DIR By: BenBlaker
       Date: June 5, 2013, 6:53 am
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       Nope, its shouldn't just "pop in and out" as otherwise it will
       fly out under use. The detant boring could do with being
       "slightly" deeper (not a lot) and as regards the lever, it
       should be able to be pulled out with pliers, but shouldn't
       jiggle about once seated, which is what it does now
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