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       #Post#: 652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: FaIIen-GoD
       Date: August 23, 2013, 8:16 am
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       Yo, i just wannet to say that i think Cmk has been a stable
       chief at this stage, sheeptag has not completely died due to his
       bad reasoning/abusing, most of it happends only when he has been
       taking drugs and that's not such a big problemo if you know how
       to talk to people without being sarcastic or bullying, ofc there
       has been some bad shit with jean-mii/polar but atleast they got
       some kind of a reason to do why they do unlike simba who just
       likes to abuse.
       Best way to keep st alive is just to start and play it.
       shyamora, shoop, amir, chaise, and whoever he calls 'influental'
       are not all that influental anymore because of big inactivity,
       bitching about how it works in csb, sometimes just do stuff
       without caring too much about it. Me and my rt lads were the
       ones who kept sheeptag alive in 2012 cause we believed it could
       get more active if we had hosters and everyone has totally
       forgotten that. Everyone deserves credit for partaking in
       sheeptag games to help keep it alive.
       it would surely be a big improvement if people could give less
       of a shit about how it works but just be cool about it and if
       something happends then talk to Cmk with some kindness and
       conffidense.
       let things stay the way they are now and start playing instead
       of discussing how it can get better cause that way nothing's
       getting done.
       #Post#: 653--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: T_P_T
       Date: August 23, 2013, 8:31 am
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       Jm & CMK biggest hitlers of our time !
       #Post#: 654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: SHEePYTaGGeRNeP
       Date: August 23, 2013, 10:36 am
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       It's very obvious that Cele is provoking, so I'd say it's pretty
       fair that CMKe banned him.
       Also if you join a clan's channel that is not yours you should
       respect that channel's rules and shamans / chieftains.
       I'm starting to think that cele is worse than frost with his
       Exalius humor, are we sure Cele is not just Exalius?
       Also nice shit trollpro ;)
       - Legend out.
       #Post#: 655--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: August 23, 2013, 10:56 am
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       The problem for me is csb being the "sheep tag channel" when all
       (non csb) have a problem with the people who have admin and
       shamy ect. like polar for example what the FUCK are u doin? he
       ruins game after game and if u don't believe me look at the
       topic we posted ABOUT polar. no one likes him and he deserves to
       be flushed down the toilet.
       #Post#: 657--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: SHEePYTaGGeRNeP
       Date: August 23, 2013, 1:24 pm
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       Vote #HODOR4SHAMAN!
       #Post#: 658--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: CandyManKiller
       Date: August 23, 2013, 2:10 pm
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       Trollpro gains 10+ legends points for this !
       #Post#: 660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: Shoop
       Date: August 23, 2013, 2:43 pm
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       After reading the posts in this thread it seems to me like the
       people advocating no change just do it because they want to keep
       the powerbalance in the community,  but have no ambitions to
       make it better. Cmk want us to stay divided, but give no reason
       why. Nightmares argument to why we should use behhchannel i
       essentially that they will do nothing.
       But look at the real arguments, a united channel for all
       sheeptaggers will lead to more games, more chat and itwwill be
       easier to arrange tournaments. All I ask for is a chance to test
       this theory. If its not true we can just fo back to how it is
       now. But to deny change only because its change like cmk and
       night does is certainly not a good idea. Change is not always
       good, but its not always bad either. And I certainly think we
       have good reasons to think a united channel is better than two
       divided.
       #Post#: 664--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: SharingMyHeroes
       Date: August 23, 2013, 3:57 pm
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       This is ridiculous,  both Chakra and Cele can't even notice I am
       completly trolling them and that I read entirely the post about
       Chakra banning/kicking Spoofy.
       I just say it's Cele cuz it actually makes him really angry
       (why? i don't know but its so funny) and you guys start arguing
       with bullshit I already know (posting quotes on channel that ive
       already read on forum).
       As always, Chakra comes with random bullshit quotes from a
       conversation where both me and cmk were trolling their asses
       like fuck (if you were aware of our /f m conversation while
       talking to you both, damn you would feel so trolled lmfao).
       But yeaa, CsB is and will stay the main channel for SheepTag, no
       matter what Shoop, Chakra, drewisgros say.
       #Post#: 665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: Celestial_One
       Date: August 23, 2013, 4:03 pm
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       I didn't provoke anyone. I was chatting with cow in clan behh
       and jm + cmk came in and started flaming me without provocation.
       If anything they were provoking me, but ye I got banned because
       I flamed back and denied the false shit they were spouting.
       Typical jm + cmk to now go "lol we were just joking!" even
       though I've been kicked from so many games by jean-mii and
       polar. I will admit cmk hasn't kicked me from any games... yet,
       but it's only a matter of time until i play a game where he's
       drunk and he bans me.
       I'd also like to state I haven't played revo in a long ass time
       because whenever I join a game someone will kick me for an
       optimal setting (I get kicked in 4v5 because polar wants a 3v5,
       or I'll get kicked in a 3v4 because polar or jeanmii want a
       2v4).
       Ye. Fuck this game and community. I stick with dota 2. It's much
       better and takes more talent anyways. Stick to your dying game
       jean-mii and polar. This is the only place you'll ever have any
       power or control.
       #Post#: 666--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Suggestion : gather in the same channel?
   DIR By: Shyamora[SkS]
       Date: August 23, 2013, 4:11 pm
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       Okay, after having read all of this just now, there's a number
       of points I'd like to adress.
       1: The ST channel 'StH'
       2: CsB hitler behaviour
       3: Getting sheeptag more popular (thx for highlighting this TP)
       First of all, a general channel is a great idea, and I approve
       of it. If indeed there is a 'no used power against players'
       thing in StH, then this makes it ideal to be a gathering place.
       Yeah, people will be chatting, people will be hosting stuffs,
       that's all fine. It's better to have everyone centered in one
       channel because of a few reasons;
       - People will more easily be prompted to host ST because they
       see there are people online in the channel.
       - Clans become more about being proud where you're from, than
       having power in a part of the community. Power is the root of
       evil for all sheeptaggers, trust me on that, erase that, and
       some problems WILL dissolve.
       That said. The idea in general is a good one, especially with
       activity as low as it is right now. The one problem is that
       everyone needs to agree to it, and with people that do not want
       to change the powerbalance in 'important' positions (God.. we
       really are talking so seriously about a fucking game) like CMK,
       you'll just split the community more.
       All said and done, this idea will likely not work, but even as a
       current Csb shaman (no I do not lick CMK -.-') I will be using
       the StH channel, and promote this idea.
       Secondly, a lot of negative behaviour is going on all the time
       between players like Cele, jean mii, Polar, Hawkys, Athamyr and
       whoever the fuck else. I do not see a reason why anyone is being
       a bitch about all these things. Why the hell are people so
       uptight about a sheeptag game? Dayum..
       Csb is a hitler clan, no doubt about it, but atleast there's
       sheeptag played, easily most of the community is in Csb, yeah,
       there's toilets, but fuck that, aost is tiny, behh is no
       sheeptag clan, Grr is all but extinct and StH only plays BD..
       You can complain about csb, but others are just as bad. It's not
       specifically the clans, it's simply this community which is
       shit. I've always loved to play sheeptag, but I quit several
       times simply because I got so fed up with the community that all
       the fun was just gone.
       If you want to complain about clans, people or whatever,
       everyone has their faults. Extreme things like what polar / cele
       and others that ban for useless shit do, should be countered but
       I cannot currently think how.
       Lastly, getting sheeptag more popular. Recently I think i'm the
       only one actually hosting public sheeptag games, and recruiting
       people. I've found a few, but not many because it's just me
       hosting, nobody else is taking the initiative. If are an active
       sheeptagger, commit yourself to hosting ONE public sheeptag game
       per day, trying to find pubs, teaching them (not abusing it
       them) and whatever. It's 20 minutes at MOST, it's sheeptag, you
       do good for the community, and it might actually be fun. If
       everyone does this, hell, we might actually get a proper
       community up again.
       To finish it all off, my internet is a bit bad for the coming
       few weeks, so I wont be overly active. Still I would like to
       encourage the StH channel, hosting public games, and trying to
       fix the bloody grudges between everyone.
       I think I'm a fairly objective person since I owe no allegiance
       to whomsoever, nor am I a 'major' voice in the community (i.e.
       Shoop, Drew, Amir, Chakra, Cmk etc.) but I've been around, I
       know how the community works, I know its handicaps and
       strengths, and I think we can make this a decent place again.
       Have some faith, put forth some effort, and lets fix this shit.
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