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       #Post#: 6085--------------------------------------------------
       Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 23, 2017, 9:54 am
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       Every player will be playing at their career peaks in these
       theoretical matches, what team do you think would win? Choose!
       I will try to use more known players.
       5v5 Versus matches -
       Versus match 1:
       Team 1, Manzzy, Traxxwolf, Exalius, Tokan, Shoop
       Team 2, Drewisfat, Magoo, Candymankiller, Mappy, Srborja-
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       Versus Match 2:
       Team 1, ChiefHero[sks], Thedraperyfalls, Cookielovestory,
       Hawkys, Chakra
       Team 2, BattleWaRRioR, Celestial_one, RoguexRanger,
       Chaiserae[behh], XXXandBeer
       ---
       Versus match 3:
       Team 1, Lovee, Grim.Shadow, CandymanKiller, Cowardlyshoe,
       Zo0Lander
       Team 2, Traxxwolf, Enstekpannawolf, Chaiserae[behh],
       Thedraperyfalls, Spoofy
       ---
       Versus match 4:
       Team 1, Chiefhero[sks], Trollpro, Cookielovestory, Drewisfat,
       Chakra
       Team 2, Magoo, BattleWaRRioR, Exalius, Shoop, Shroomy
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       Versus match 5:
       Team 1, Chakra, Gosusheep, Shroomy, Bulldog22, Koala
       Team 2, Candymankiller, Pab, Traxxwolf, Wrda, Trollpro
       ---
       Versus match 6:
       Team 1, Magoo, drewisfat, Zo0Lander, Celestial_one, Cowardlyshoe
       Team 2, Thedraperyfalls, Chiefhero[sks], Shoop, Exalius,
       Nightmare[behh]
       Who do you think wins each match, and why? (Explain.)
       Bonus question:
       Which is the most interesting versus match in your opinion?
       #Post#: 6086--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: drewisfat
       Date: July 23, 2017, 7:01 pm
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       I'll elaborate later but my votes are:
       2, 1, 1, 1, 2, and 1.
       The last one is the only really difficult one, as it's two very
       solid teams of tier 1 players, and every other team has at least
       some notable weaknesses. I'm tempted to think the easties
       prevail because Magoo ignores my orders and buys a golem, and
       shoop ignores his team's orders and manages to die to said
       golem.
       #Post#: 6087--------------------------------------------------
       My Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think
       wins?
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 23, 2017, 8:28 pm
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       My votes are as stated:
       2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1
       Here is my explanation for why I chose each winning teams
       Versus 1: team 2 has combinations of drew/magoo with experience
       teaming together, cmk at his prime is a large addition, and
       mappy and srborja can hold there own. Team 1 however has some
       good talent, I don't see exalius and shoop working well
       together, or traxx and shoop for that matter. I think there
       would be disagreements, and the lack of coordination on the
       sheep game play would cause someone to die early and lead to a
       chain of deaths. Team 2 wins.
       Versus 2: this match up seems like team 1 has higher overall
       skills, but also a wide cast of characters. Team 2 seems like it
       would have more synergy with battle warrior and celestial and
       rogue having played together for years. Guys like hawkys and
       Chakra would disagree with sidey/amir. Team 2 wins.
       Versus 3: neither team has a lot more skill that the other,
       however I tend to view the players on team 1 to be much more
       similar in playstyles  (grim, cmk, cow) than team 2. Team 1
       wins.
       Versus 4: this is a strange match up,  with both sides having
       full arrangements of players with different styles. Team 1 looks
       to have a stable group however, and also a slightly higher skill
       level. Team 1 wins.
       Versus 5: team 1 has great synergy, but the players on team 2
       stack up ridiculously higher on individual skills, team 1 has no
       star player to lead them, team 2 has ample talent. Team 2 wins.
       Versus 6: from my opinion , the skill levels are almost even.
       However, I see a struggle of leadership on team 2, compared to 1
       likely putting drew at the helm there. Team 1 wins due to better
       coordination on critical isolations.
       #Post#: 6088--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: July 24, 2017, 9:16 am
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       I think you guys are too quick to judge my match. Sidey and amir
       are top legends, chakra is very good as well. My prediction is
       it would be an upset round with chaise and beer dying early.
       Victory for team hawkys.
       #Post#: 6089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 24, 2017, 9:55 am
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       It is theoretical peaks of there career hawks. Chaise doesn't
       die the moment wolves spawn. Beer could hold his own, he was on
       a STWC 2008 team that won I believe as well to his credit. Team
       2 wins due to the reasons I stated.
       #Post#: 6091--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: drewisfat
       Date: July 24, 2017, 9:24 pm
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       I would bet that Sidey, Amir, Chakra and Cookie could win that
       game 4v5. Each of them is better than anyone on the 2nd team,
       with the possible exception of Cookie. However Cookie is very
       good at building a lot of farms and not dying, which is all he
       has to do here for his team to be invulnerable. They may have
       some difficulty wolfing, but I could see them lasting the full
       20 minutes quite frequently. Hawkys puts them over the top, and
       acts like an insurance policy. That team could make a major
       f*ckup and still win.
       BW is kinda overrated, especially in consideration for a long
       team massing game. Also Chaise died in 30 seconds while he was
       at his peak. So I feel like you're redefining "peak" to mean
       doesn't make any mistakes.
       Chakra really is beautiful. Like all westies he's underrated for
       being modest and for not playing a lot of revo, but at his peak
       (which came quite late) it would be hard to distinguish him from
       the best player.
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       Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: July 24, 2017, 10:13 pm
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       These would be some fun matches to watch. Here's hoping we get
       to see them in ST2 :D
       Also, bonus 7th match because Nmcdo didn't give me a fat cmk vs
       drew matchup.
       Versus match 7:
       Team 1: Drew, Cow, Magoo, Masu, Elencia
       Team 2: CMK, Amir, Polar, Sidey, Traxx
       #Post#: 6093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 25, 2017, 9:01 am
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       I think team 2 would win that match BEER. Sidey / Traxx / Amir /
       CMK I would all consider "tier 1 players" at there peak. Polar
       is easily  all time tier 1.5. Team 1 has drew cow and magoo, but
       its questionable, especially for me, how good masu and elencia
       were at their respective peaks.
       #Post#: 6094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 25, 2017, 9:11 am
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       While yes, Chaise died in 30 seconds in his peak, that doesn't
       mean his peak would always die that way. His peak could have a
       1/50 chance of that happening, and simply got unlucky. Therefor
       better to assume he wouldn't pull a 30 second while still
       possible. Chakra got isolated in STWC09 tons of times but he
       didn't die. Same 30 seconds is possible for hawkys, especially
       since his peak is much less than chaise.
       My argument is that celestial / rogue / beer / BW would have a
       much better overall flow to their games, and would coordinate
       much more than team 1. While yes, team 1 has a superior pool of
       skill, no one of those players is invincible on their own in a
       large game. Its very likely they could create there own
       opportunities to not die early on, and that could win them the
       match. However team 2 could have much better teamwork, and
       teamwork in a versus match could end up being a lot more
       important, depending on isolations / bridge scenarios that could
       occur. While I will admit I quite obviously have much less known
       about battlewarriors ability, he was semi famous for good
       survival on his own - and its possible his allies could do
       enough to help him out, or they could fail. It goes both ways on
       this match up, and I think its closer than you think.
       #Post#: 6095--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sheep Tag theoretical versus matches: who do you think wins?
   DIR By: FaceOfMelinda
       Date: July 25, 2017, 4:17 pm
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       Some toilet theories? They wouldn't play well with each
       other...there would be a battle for power... better
       flow....SHADDAP! Legends flamed each other since day 1, it
       doesn't affect their game play (this only happens to tier 2s and
       below e.g., Hawkys, Polar, Elencia, and possibly Cow).
       Versus match 6:
       Team 1, Magoo, drewisfat, Zo0Lander, Celestial_one, Cowardlyshoe
       Team 2, Thedraperyfalls, Chiefhero[sks], Shoop, Exalius,
       Nightmare[behh]
       This is probably the most interesting. First two of each cancel
       each other out, Shoop and Celestial cancel each other out, and
       then I'd probably go with Exalius and Nightmare over Zoolander
       and Cow. Exa without his maphack would lessen the edge slightly
       though.
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