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       #Post#: 5263--------------------------------------------------
       Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: AName
       Date: July 9, 2015, 9:42 pm
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       Okay, so here's the deal: I want to release my game really,
       really soon as an alpha game. It would not come with fully
       playable Sheep Tag in it, and I'm currently debating with the
       help of some friends whether it will even have a very basic
       Sheep Tag implemented when I go alpha. I'm also considering
       whether I should have it be an open or a closed alpha (closed
       would be e.g. only 20-100 players are allowed to play the game).
       If I release early, I get these advantages:
       - quick quality testing on peoples' computers to find bugs,
       overlooked problems, and general feedback
       - earlier exposure, which gives the game and the community
       behind it a lot longer time to develop
       - a lot of encouragement to me as the developer (and those
       helping me with various stuff) to work harder on it
       However, I'm afraid of releasing too early because it could lead
       to:
       - a hole in my pocket: this is because as soon as I release the
       game, I need to host the server publicly and that costs money,
       anywhere from $6/month to $40/month per server (will start with
       1 for the first few weeks at least) - note that I'm already
       paying it a lot of my time and some $72/year on the website for
       domain name and good hosting
       - players driven away from the game (possibly) due to its
       suckiness (underdeveloped state*), though I will probably set up
       an email list to play so that I can at least email everyone at a
       later time when the game gets good
       So I really want your feedback, and it would be great if
       everyone could respond and get those who would still play the
       game but aren't active on WC3/STC to give their feedback as
       well. What's best for you and me is the same.
       - If I set up a Paypal donation, would you donate some money,
       and if so, what kind of money? $1? $5? $20?
       - Of course, on what conditions/promises/rewards/etc. would you
       donate money, and what would cause you to donate more?
       - What do you think the most effective release time for the
       alpha game would be? How playable would the game need to be for
       it to benefit the most?
       - When I announce the game and its website and forums, will you
       help to make and keep the forums active over the next few
       months?
       Basically I need your guys' support in whatever way you're
       willing to give it: money, testing, advice, etc. So let me know
       what I can expect so I can plan this alpha release better,
       thanks.
       #Post#: 5264--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 9, 2015, 10:22 pm
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       Based on what I read I think you should hold back, a little bit.
       Wait until the game has maybe 2-3 playable modes where bug
       testing can be done on multiple fronts. Because the game I
       assume would have the same kind of interface ish from game to
       game I would assume some bugs would tie into each other.  Also
       the servers / websites seem expensive, so I think you should try
       to start the game by storm sort of speak. Once it's officially
       moving forward obviously get the general knowledge into people's
       heads, they will either support you or not. Within th alpha
       stages are you planning on including chat? I think it would be
       awesome to talk to others and see what they have to say RIGHT
       after a game. I'm not sure how well you could publicly advertise
       the game AT FIRST so I'm not sure about open / closed alpha. I
       can test the game and attempt to give advice like this in the
       future. Thanks.
       #Post#: 5265--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: AName
       Date: July 9, 2015, 11:13 pm
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       The website is up for good now. The cheap server I can get for
       only $6 a month ($72 a year), and it should be able to support
       chat and games just fine for the alpha stage. If we can raise a
       little money like $30-200 from donations (over time) why not?
       What are good reasons not to release the alpha early?
       #Post#: 5266--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: Myll
       Date: July 10, 2015, 8:19 am
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       Is the game even ready for multiplayer (no offense)? Or is it
       just going to be a bunch of sheep and wolves running around not
       doing very much? You can probably just have us test single
       player for the time being to test out the feel of the game,
       running around, building farms, check out the UI, etc. Have
       cheat commands to spawn wolves, reset the game, etc.
       #Post#: 5267--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 10, 2015, 8:25 am
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       It's just that I feel the overall experience to those who are
       aren't from this community etc would be more inclined to see the
       potential and see the development through with because they can
       see that potential. Don't get me wrong it's fine if you release
       alpha as early as you want.
       #Post#: 5268--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: Myll
       Date: July 10, 2015, 8:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Nmcdo link ---
       >
       > It's just that I feel the overall experience to those who are
       aren't from this community etc would be more inclined to see the
       potential and see the development through with because they can
       see that potential. Don't get me wrong it's fine if you release
       alpha as early as you want.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I doubt it'd hurt the public image for the game if he keeps the
       alpha within this community and close friends.
       #Post#: 5269--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 10, 2015, 8:41 am
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       I had meant if it was open to all, Myll. As for donations I sure
       as hell could if my current position was different, but I'm sure
       some people would. All at differing levels.
       #Post#: 5271--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: July 10, 2015, 4:03 pm
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       Closed alpha definitely (If you think its ready), but start
       going public with pictures/videos as soon as you can.
       #Post#: 5275--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: AName
       Date: July 12, 2015, 12:39 am
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       #Post#: 5277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alpha Game and Donations
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: July 12, 2015, 11:33 am
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       I think you should put even just a little of a description going
       on within that website.
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