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       #Post#: 4594--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: August 1, 2014, 7:15 pm
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       Grim shadow was the BIGGEST dick I have ever met, besides polar
       lol. His flames were RUTHLESS and if you were caught up in them
       you would feel despair for sure ^^
       #Post#: 4595--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: August 2, 2014, 12:24 am
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       Grim was a crazy emo smurf whom we dont know his actual acc to
       this day.
       #Post#: 4596--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: drewisfat
       Date: August 2, 2014, 1:39 am
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       Grim was definitely not a smurf.  Personality was different and
       he was too good to be a common smurf.
       Ranking includes an arbitrary balance of skill/influence on the
       game/culture dominance in realm
       East:
       0. me!
       1. Philo
       2. Ed
       3. Magoo
       4. Cele
       5. Rylo
       6. Pure
       7. Cow
       8. Frappa
       9. Open(alex)
       10. Raptos
       West:
       1. Gosu
       2. Chakra
       3. Star
       4. Rival
       5. Sheepgod
       6. Arxon
       7. Kenny
       8. Mav
       9. Anti-Drug
       10. Zoo
       Euro:
       1. Sidey
       2. Shoop
       3. Chaise
       4. Amir
       5. CMK
       6. Jenuwar
       7. Exalius
       8. Borja
       9. Traxx
       10. Deadfly
       List is hard, except for the top person in each realm.  They all
       listen to Opeth.  The evidence is clear.
       #Post#: 4598--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: August 3, 2014, 4:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: drewisfat link ---
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       > not a smurf.  Personality was different
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Quite the contradiction right here. The whole point of a smurf
       is to change your personality is it not?
       #Post#: 4599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: Chakra
       Date: August 3, 2014, 5:48 pm
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       Can smurf for a whole plethora of reasons. Because you forgot
       your password, you want to cheat in a tourney, you want to ruin
       a game, not get kicked from games immediately, etc. "Change your
       personality" - who does that? Lol.
       Grim was not a smurf of any other players of the same era. Such
       a thing would have been revealed via IPs, unless he was very
       dedicated.
       #Post#: 4600--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: August 3, 2014, 6:52 pm
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       "Forgot your password"
       So you make a new account which is now your "Main" not a smurf
       "Cheat in a tourney"
       Good use, but you probably will have to change your personality
       so you don't get caught.
       "Ruin a game"
       This makes lil sense as generally we do not accept pubs in our
       games
       "Not get kicked from games"
       This generally requires a personality change see "Cheat in a
       tourney"
       Conclusion: You have to change your personality if you want to
       Successfully Smurf. Sure you can make a new account and be found
       out right away, but those are called bad smurfs.
       #Post#: 4601--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: August 3, 2014, 6:58 pm
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       grim was the #1 asshole of the century. He wasn't an aka, his
       level of being a cynical asshole is far beyond anyone in the
       community.
       #Post#: 4602--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: Chakra
       Date: August 3, 2014, 7:22 pm
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       You don't have a monopoly on what words mean, lol. I played on
       multiple accounts simultaneously without behaving differently. I
       just didn't want ST'ers begging me to play ST when I was playing
       with the other kiddos. No doubt, however, that my other accounts
       would have been known as smurfs.
       When he had tournies, people smurfed all the time. The simple
       fact that you were playing with people you normally didn't made
       smurfing quite easy.
       You guys do let randoms in your games (see: Sidey). And I guess
       if you're just silent/vague, that is a "change in personality."
       Grim could have been someone before, but he wasn't another
       concurrent player. Either way, this discussion has no relation
       to the topic. Even if he was Philo, he was still an east player
       and ranked higher than you. Being emo or a smurf doesn't really
       effect that.
       #Post#: 4603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: August 3, 2014, 8:40 pm
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       Chakra, grim was princeofspades or something like that lol
       #Post#: 4604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Top 10  All Time ST players
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: August 3, 2014, 9:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chakra link ---
       >
       > he was still an east player and ranked higher than you. Being
       emo or a smurf doesn't really effect that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Cool story bro first off I never said I was better then him the
       kid was a freak played 24/7. Him being a better player then me
       doesn't change the fact he was an emo and possibly a smurf.
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