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Moral beliefs
DIR By: glow
Date: June 18, 2014, 12:01 pm
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What are some rules y'all follow?
My 3 rules are 1. Let everyone live their life 2. no restriction
to someones life and 3. help everyone to pursue to be happy.
I'm sorry for my obstructive behavior this week :(
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: Chakra
Date: June 18, 2014, 1:24 pm
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I believe in absolutely no intrinsic rules, rights, or dignity.
However, I identify myself as being a rational creature pursing
rational ends, but I do not think myself unique. I understand
that most other humans are just like me: rational creatures
pursing rational ends. As such, when working with others, I
should advocate my wants and ideas strongly, but also recognize
that others feel much the same. The most fair compromise is to
assume everyone should, from an initial state, be equal in
advocating their own wants and ideas.
This is an argument for humans to be treated equal through
reason, rather than some innate, intrinsic "human right," as
humans themselves are nothing special, it is our consciousness
that is.
Moral philosophy? I believe utilitarian calculations are
something that should be done at a system level, such as
governments, but at the individual is too far removed.
Individuals should pursue deontology wherein they attempt to
understand past or possible actions as morally justifiable by
constantly shifting their perspective and the perspective of
others. I think it likely that through a basic understanding of
this, most decisions are the same you'd get under
utilitarianism.
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: June 18, 2014, 3:36 pm
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Funny how you shit on kids for having a lower IQ on you or not
agreeing with you, but you want equality. Practice what you
preach.
Also specify on your utilitarian views. What is utilitarian?
Also dumb ur words down so regular people can understand them?
xD
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: glow
Date: June 18, 2014, 3:46 pm
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I find that very enlightening! I had always separated reasoning
from emotion.
Duty and obligation to our species... Genius! =)
After all, for those of us who acknowledge evolution to be true;
then you know we all must eat, sleep, and reproduce. THATS IT
^^
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: Chakra
Date: June 18, 2014, 6:25 pm
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I said most humans are rational and that humans should be equal
at an initial state. Once you open up your mouth and spout out
idiotic things, your ideas suddenly become less than equal.
However, I never go around parading IQs or argue of superior
intelligence, at least I don't feel like I do. I try to listen
for merit in all ideas, but once someone has picked up a history
of not having any merit, it is only efficient to debase them.
Utilitarianism is just a moral philosophy in which you maximize
utility for a given society, where utility is arbitrary defined;
I tend to prefer to define it as self-fulfillment or potential
thereof. This is the only reasonable metric, I believe, that can
be applied to everyone, as the only thing everyone wants is to
achieve wants, or at least have a chance at them.
I try to create a strong disconnect between biological humans
and consciousness. Our biological needs/wants, such as nutrition
and reproduction, are so easily met they are of nearly no
concern. I feel absolutely zero obligation to people because
they share similar DNA; I feel obligation to people because they
are sentient.
Where's Shoop? He lives this sh​it. ^^
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: XXXandBEER
Date: June 18, 2014, 7:45 pm
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Chakra question about being rational.
Lets take a look at something like say Surfing
Surfing has many dangers such as drowning and shark attacks.
People still like to surf because they enjoy it and it brings to
them as you will say "Self fulfillment"
Would you consider these people irrational for putting their
life at risk and surfing to achieve "Self fulfillment"?
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: June 19, 2014, 1:25 am
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Answer to that is a calculation has to be made, beer, lol.
Odds of plane crashing while I go visit bahamas is insanely
small, and worth the risk for the mucho selfo fulfimento in the
bahamas.
Odds of u walking out your front door and getting hit by a
runaway car in your front lawn shouldn't keep you from smelling
the fresh air beer <3
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: June 19, 2014, 10:25 am
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Cele why is it you only post where chakra posts, you debate on
chakra's side ALWAYS. Have some independence. I know what your
going to say, "chakra is right most of the time and he makes
rational decisions etc." There has to be AT LEAST 1 thing you
guys don't agree on.
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: glow
Date: June 19, 2014, 10:49 am
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I was hoping more people that actually play sheep tag would
answer this call, but no.
Thank you for your insight, Chakra, or shall I call you, The
Great One?!
--- Quote ---
> Utilitarianism is just a moral philosophy in which you
maximize utility for a given society, where utility is arbitrary
defined; I tend to prefer to define it as self-fulfillment or
potential thereof. This is the only reasonable metric, I
believe, that can be applied to everyone, as the only thing
everyone wants is to achieve wants, or at least have a chance at
them.
--- End Quote ---
This answers your question Beer ^^. He believes, at face value
of your question, that it is rational to surf depending on risk.
Since you are highly unlikely to be eaten by a shark while
surfing you may enjoy it.
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Re: Moral beliefs
DIR By: SHEePYTaGGeRNeP
Date: June 19, 2014, 11:34 am
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Why would I post something in a moral beliefs thread?
I come here for real ST discussions and funny threads sidey
makes :D
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