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       #Post#: 4129--------------------------------------------------
       Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: Tollison
       Date: April 30, 2014, 2:47 pm
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       Revo has had somewhat the same terrain for quite awhile and for
       good reason.  There have been little argument as to how well
       that terrain was made.
       Beer, you radically changed the top right, and to be honest it
       looks like you took it from some other map and pasted it in
       there.
       #Post#: 4130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: April 30, 2014, 2:52 pm
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       ye i agree, some changes were acceptable but i don't like top
       right either, it could be a lot cooler!
       #Post#: 4131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: April 30, 2014, 3:03 pm
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       All talk but no walk
  HTML http://sheeptag.createaforum.com/community-discussion/sheep-tag-terrain-contest/
       Not a single person has sent a map in^^
       Feel free to show me what you want for top right. As I don't see
       anything wrong with the current design.
       #Post#: 4133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: April 30, 2014, 5:53 pm
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       Review old topics beer cause i have made 3 revo terrain
       proposals. All got shot down.
       #Post#: 4134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: Nmcdo
       Date: April 30, 2014, 6:22 pm
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       Funny you mention that beer, I had actually started a mmap for
       that. Would you want me to finish it?
       #Post#: 4141--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: Celestial_One
       Date: May 1, 2014, 10:55 am
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       Why should we change back it back to the old revo terrain? I
       never really heard your reason why, lol.
       #Post#: 4142--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: Tollison
       Date: May 1, 2014, 12:11 pm
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       uniqueness.  the terrain wasn't in need of change.  this is more
       of a sincerity thing than logical, beer.
       Top right has been a trademark of Revo for years and you changed
       it into something completely different.
       I suppose nothing is wrong with top right and it is one of the
       places I never go to, but use the terrain you chose to use in
       Revo into a completely different sheep tag map.
       #Post#: 4143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: May 1, 2014, 2:07 pm
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       I believe most of the map is okay. The problem i have with the
       top right is it doesn't have that unique terrain vibe you get
       from playing sheep tag. It is just a circle with many ramps,
       pretty much no cool things happen and the terrain is boring.
       There are no cool jumps or anything like that. I vote that we
       redo the terrain only on the top right.
       #Post#: 4145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: Celestial_One
       Date: May 1, 2014, 5:46 pm
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       The map has been open source for a long time now, and anyone is
       free to edit it as they see fit tollison. If anything you should
       be grateful beer is the only one actually editing the map. I
       don't really see the problem with different terrain, and you
       haven't said why either (sincerity, uniqueness?).
       The terrain was the same way it was for mass years, but that
       doesn't mean it's a good thing. "That's how it's been for a long
       time" is a pseudo-argument. Doesn't support your case at all. If
       you guys want a different or better terrain than the one beer
       has implemented then why don't you make it? Show us what you
       mean.
       Anyways, that aside I think most changes are nice ones (though I
       still think invis rune is retarded, and sheep illusions are
       broken among other things). Keep up the good work and thanks for
       asking input for the map instead of just hitlering it up. If you
       have any questions or want an opinion for a change you can
       always message me on BNet, I'm usually lurking.
       #Post#: 4148--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bring back old Revo terrain
   DIR By: Tollison
       Date: May 1, 2014, 7:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: Celestial_One link ---
       >
       > The map has been open source for a long time now, and anyone
       is free to edit it as they see fit tollison. If anything you
       should be grateful beer is the only one actually editing the
       map. I don't really see the problem with different terrain, and
       you haven't said why either (sincerity, uniqueness?).
       >
       > The terrain was the same way it was for mass years, but that
       doesn't mean it's a good thing. "That's how it's been for a long
       time" is a pseudo-argument. Doesn't support your case at all. If
       you guys want a different or better terrain than the one beer
       has implemented then why don't you make it? Show us what you
       mean.
       >
       > Anyways, that aside I think most changes are nice ones (though
       I still think invis rune is retarded, and sheep illusions are
       broken among other things). Keep up the good work and thanks for
       asking input for the map instead of just hitlering it up. If you
       have any questions or want an opinion for a change you can
       always message me on BNet, I'm usually lurking.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       @ cel -Sheep tag Revo is the best version of sheep tag we've all
       played.  The reason why I want beer to change the terrain back
       to how it was up top, and bottom right where there is an OP jump
       hill is because there was nothing wrong with both areas, but he
       decided to change it to for no apparent reason, but that's like
       rebuilding the great wall of china.  Sure it may be great, but
       the old one was or is just as great.
       I'll assume you don't know what sincerity and uniqueness means
       although you have an extensive vocabulary.  You learn something
       everyday.
       Sincerity - the quality of being free from pretense, deceit, or
       hypocrisy. and unique - being the only one of its kind; unlike
       anything else.
       It would be sincere to add the old terrain back because there
       are people who desire it, and i don't see anyone else fighting
       for beers terrain besides you.  The old terrain was UNIQUE, and
       uniqueness is desirable.  That hill up there and w/e else was
       there was unique to any other Warcraft map.
       I also shouldn't have to be forced to appreciate beer being the
       only map editor.  for all i know beer is making revo less
       desirable.
       Changing the terrain because it's been there for a long time
       isn't my full argument.  If you'd read my posts all the way
       through you'd understand that. -
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