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Re: New CsB movie out!
DIR By: VsKatshuma
Date: March 6, 2014, 3:58 am
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If this drama stops one day piece of my heart will be gone with
it.
Behh remains indifferent.
#Post#: 3643--------------------------------------------------
Re: New CsB movie out!
DIR By: Shoop
Date: March 6, 2014, 8:32 am
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I havent mentioned US West. Dont know why you bring it up. But
since you have statistics on how many peoples use each server,
mind sharing it with the rest of us Chakra?
Exacly this ("From what I know, StH never really held long term
bans but rather banned on a somewhat arbitrary (...) basis" is
what made the abuse systematic. Chief, shamans, hostbotadmins
and so on were allowed to kick, ban and mute people without any
reason. The cover was that it was "jokes" and showed you had
humor. This became the natural order in US East that people were
forced to accept.
There is no such natural order yet in Europe, no specific reason
to which a chief, shaman, host, etc can refer to to legitimize
any kick/ban/mute. Infact the only such order we have had is
Whis during Exalius hostbotmonopoly. Back then the shamans, the
people with access to his bot and ofcourse Exalius himself could
legitimize any action with the "lick or kick system". Anything
you said could be used as a motive for a kick/ban/mure.
Both these sweepreasons, intentionally or not, had the effect of
creating an order based on this abuse. A flames B, but if B
flames A he get kicked. People have unequal rights and this
often leads to terrible consequences for the individual. And in
the long run the community since these individuals often becomes
increasingly isolated and frustrated, and eventually leave the
community completley.
In CsB its not that clear yet, the abuse is still considered
abuse. It isnt covered with "its just a joke", "in this clan we
use a lick or kick system" or something similar. And hopefully
it will never be. But we do know shamans and hostbotadmins are
allowed to abuse without any consequences from CMK. The only
thing that stops a completley systematic abuse like the once we
saw in StH and Whis is because CsB is so small proportionally
compared to those two. If CsB was as big as StH (in terms of
proportions of influential players in the server) the abuse
would probably be worse yes.
Luckily most people have never been in, have left or are leaving
CsB. The people who chose to stay enables the abuse and are
responsibile if it develops into a complete systematic abuse
like the ones we saw in StH and Whis. With todays playerbasis
and the frequency of the abuse we see in CsB (much higher than
StH ofcourse) it will likley lead to the end of Sheep Tag. But
as long as people chose to not accept it, and leave CsB if you
are still a member, we have nothing to fear. There are plenty of
other clans to go around.
Just dont remain indifferent and think for yourself. Do you
believe in equal rights or in abuse? The choice is yours. The
real problem isnt the actual bans/kicks/mute. It is knowing that
certain people are allowed to use them as tools in any situation
without any consequences.
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Re: New CsB movie out!
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: March 6, 2014, 3:18 pm
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fuck csb, fuck polar, fuck the hitlers. It's time we rebuild the
community and fix all the damage csb has caused. CsB has ruined
the entire community with there spiteful acts of aggression
towards normal people. Join clan behh/osa/osas for FAIR SHEEP
TAG! There are many ways to bring change, here are some listed
below
-get old st players back!
-convince kids that sit in channel and argue to participate in
game as well (getting more games played)
-Recruit new players and TEACH them how to play sheep tag with
de pros
-Do not participate in anything csb or csb related. (CsB players
should be allowed to join [anyone but polar] as long as they
play flair, and do not flame harshly for absolutely no reason.
Yes, csb has hitler host bots, but do not fear! for i have a
host bot as well! it is played by behh, grr, whis, osa and osas
members.
I encourage you to get a host bot if you encourage FAIR, DECENT
GAMES. Now admins can be a problem, only give people who are
responsible and who seems fit enough to match the description.
As for the retards in csb...
The STC Empire and the behh/osa/osas Republic, linked together
in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their
native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost
of their strength. Even though large tracts of the STC and many
old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of
the Gestapo (CsB police force) and all the odious apparatus of
CsB rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end,
we shall fight in csb, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we
shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the
air, we shall defend our community, whatever the cost may be, we
shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing
grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we
shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if,
which I do not for a moment believe, this community or a large
part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond
the seas, armed and guarded by the WhiS and Grr Fleet, would
carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World,
with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the
liberation of the old.
This is my video for all of you who fight for justice.....We are
the scottish, csb is the english (obvs..lol) and
[glow=red,2,300]i HaWkys... am WILLIAM WALLACE![/glow]
[ftp=
HTML ftp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEOOZDbMrgE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEOOZDbMrgE[/ftp]
#Post#: 3677--------------------------------------------------
Re: New CsB movie out!
DIR By: drewisfat
Date: March 8, 2014, 6:30 pm
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Shoop starts thread calling for people to unite against csb.
Shoop then says StH is the biggest abuse clan in history,
attacking people he's signed up in the video (master, cele,
chakra, drew, hawkys)
Topic becomes about whether or not StH used to be Hitlers
Is it any wonder why you never accomplish anything for long
Shoop? You have no concept of perspective or timing, and so you
end up attacking everyone randomly. It makes it hard to be your
friend even when ppl agree with you.
As Chakra already pointed out, StH never had a monopoly on
hostbots, in fact rarely had a majority on east. I never made it
a mission to ban people from playing games, nor could I have.
The only player I ever tried to ban long-term was itio, and that
obviously didn't really work.
We certainly never spambotted clans for not banning someone from
a channel. This is a whole new level of insanely stupid hitler
shit.
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