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#Post#: 3203--------------------------------------------------
What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: Airwalk
Date: December 1, 2013, 8:18 am
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Hey was hoping to get back into gaming soon. What kind of games
do you play?
I used to be good at SC2 but disliked new expansion. I know a
few of you love DotA so why?
Any other competitive games around?
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Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: December 1, 2013, 1:20 pm
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Dota has to be one of the most rewarding games out there.
Because the game is constantly changing. New strategies, new
heroes, and new teams come out all the time.
The game has a history on warcraft III (and it's still being
developed on wc3!).
The gameplay and strategy are nuts... there's so much to dota I
could talk about it for days.
Dota2 is one of the fastest growing and popular games today.
Ditch League of Legends... the game is a lot easier than Dota,
and everyone that plays both has told me Dota has more
dimensions.
You should also learn dota because MASS sheeptaggers already
know how so we could teach you. Also, you don't have to pay to
get it... you already own warcraft III ^^
#Post#: 3207--------------------------------------------------
Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: XXXandBEER
Date: December 1, 2013, 1:25 pm
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Don't waste your time learning dota a game thats 10 years old
and doesn't even have ranks. Just wait for Heroes of the Storm
to come out. Blizzard always makes quality products so I'm sure
Heroes of the Storm is gonna be legendary. In the mean time just
play
HTML http://www.tetrisfriends.com/
#Post#: 3209--------------------------------------------------
Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: December 1, 2013, 1:43 pm
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Jokes on you beer, since dota 2 is the most recent MOBA and has
the best graphics. If your computer can't handle it I still
suggest playing dota 1, since it's more up-to-date, has a loyal
following, and sheeptaggers play it daily.
#Post#: 3218--------------------------------------------------
Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: Chiefhero[sks]
Date: December 1, 2013, 6:54 pm
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from what i heard, heroes of the storm is gonna be trash with
decent graphics. according to rumors from testers, HotS is gonna
be dumbed down and simplified alot. if put on a spectrum, dota
would be on 1 side, LoL would be in the middle, and HotS would
be on the other side, in terms of simplicity, lack of depth,
etc.
and funny that beer uses the age of dota as an argument against
it. if anything, this just indicates that the game is way more
tested and balanced than the games that just recently
(relatively) got released ^^
only people who haven't tried dota (tried it beyond playing a
few rounds; really learning it and understanding the gameplay)
thinks LoL is even remotely good. people like beer defend LoL
because they don't want to accept that they're spending 8 hours
per day playing a game that's almost identical, yet clearly
inferior, to another free game ^^ the basis is
psychological/emotional, not rational.
dota2 got more depth and mastery than LoL. Dota2 (unlike LoL)
doesn't have graphics that would embarres a 14+ year old if his
friends caught him playing the game. and dota2 is more balanced.
im tempted to claim that dota2 is objectively better than LoL,
but i won't go there :D
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Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: Alph4bet
Date: December 1, 2013, 8:52 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Don't waste your time learning dota a game thats 10 years old
and doesn't even have ranks. Just wait for Heroes of the Storm
to come out. Blizzard always makes quality products so I'm sure
Heroes of the Storm is gonna be legendary. In the mean time just
play
HTML http://www.tetrisfriends.com/
--- End Quote ---
Three things.
One: It does have ranks, DotA like many other products in this
world don't want to appear to discourage noobs. So they don't
allow you to be ranked unless you allow them to rank you. If you
want to be ranked, allow dotabuff to read your profile. It will
tell you where you sit in terms of game play.
Two: Blizzard are terrible at supporting their own games
competitively. Ask anyone who has attempted to play it
professionally, I have a lot of mates who are pro starcraft
players and they are sooo jealous of DotA2, they hate the game,
but they look at the support valve put in(EG: the international
with a massive prize) and they are just hugely shocked.
Therefore "Heroes of the Storm" we'll see how much support they
give their product, but I doubt they could contend with Valve.
Three: DotA is ever changing, strats come and go all the time
due to the game being reballanced, the only thing I hate is the
fact that teams are unstable, EG: loda has been in 4 different
teams since 2010, Screw DotA, LET'S PLAY ST!
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Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: SharingMyHeroes
Date: December 2, 2013, 8:01 am
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So sad that my pc can't handle it :/
#Post#: 3232--------------------------------------------------
Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: XXXandBEER
Date: December 2, 2013, 4:51 pm
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--- Quote from: Alph4bet link ---
>
> [quote]
> Two: Blizzard are terrible at supporting their own games
competitively. Ask anyone who has attempted to play it
professionally, I have a lot of mates who are pro starcraft
players and they are sooo jealous of DotA2, they hate the game,
but they look at the support valve put in(EG: the international
with a massive prize) and they are just hugely shocked.
Therefore "Heroes of the Storm" we'll see how much support they
give their product, but I doubt they could contend with Valve.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Blizzard is the only reason competitive gaming got a chance in
the first place. Without Sc1 competitive gaming would probably
never gotten passed MLG which is a joke. Funny you say you have
many friends who are pro starcraft players. Being master and
being pro is 2 very different things. If they were actually pro
they wouldn't complain because there is huge tournaments for
Sc2. Also why would they be jealous of Dota 2 and not League?
League has way more chances for prizes etc. if thats what your
looking for because thats all Riot gives 2 shits about fuck
making a game says Riot and just focus on making it competitive.
Kinda disappointed at all the hate for Heroes of the Storm
before its even out. I guess thats a typical Dota player thought
100% unwilling to try anything else and instead talks about how
amazing Dota is and how no other game can compare even though
they haven't played anything else besides Dota.
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Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: Alph4bet
Date: December 2, 2013, 11:42 pm
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--- Quote from: XXXandBEER link ---
>
> [quote author=Alph4bet link=topic=311.msg3220#msg3220
date=1385952738]
> Two: Blizzard are terrible at supporting their own games
competitively. Ask anyone who has attempted to play it
professionally, I have a lot of mates who are pro starcraft
players and they are sooo jealous of DotA2, they hate the game,
but they look at the support valve put in(EG: the international
with a massive prize) and they are just hugely shocked.
Therefore "Heroes of the Storm" we'll see how much support they
give their product, but I doubt they could contend with Valve.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Blizzard is the only reason competitive gaming got a chance in
the first place. Without Sc1 competitive gaming would probably
never gotten passed MLG which is a joke. Funny you say you have
many friends who are pro starcraft players. Being master and
being pro is 2 very different things. If they were actually pro
they wouldn't complain because there is huge tournaments for
Sc2. Also why would they be jealous of Dota 2 and not League?
League has way more chances for prizes etc. if thats what your
looking for because thats all Riot gives 2 ****s about ****
making a game says Riot and just focus on making it competitive.
Kinda disappointed at all the hate for Heroes of the Storm
before its even out. I guess thats a typical Dota player thought
100% unwilling to try anything else and instead talks about how
amazing Dota is and how no other game can compare even though
they haven't played anything else besides Dota.
[/quote]
You quoted you quoting me? ugly to read, anywayz, prepare for a
massive post!
Blizzard is not the reason gaming got a chance in the first
place, they did nothing to support SC1, they didn't even update
the game regularly. Their focus back then was Diablo II and
Warcraft III. The reason gaming got a chance in the first place
was the community, Starcraft I and II's main community can be
located at
HTML http://www.teamliquid.net/.
If Koreans didn't find
that game so enjoyable, Starcraft I would have been dead many
years ago. Blizzard did not support their game. You clearly know
s.h.i.t all on the subject.
Being GrandMaster on the server means that you are pro lol. It
also depends on which server. NA is a decent server, The Korean
server is a lot better to be GM of, but NA is probably 2nd or
3rd best. The Korean server has only opened up to be played on
for everyone outside of Korea within the last 8 months.
Now prizes and tournaments was just one example of how Valve
support their game. Other examples include and not limited to:
- Providing tournament tickets to be purchased which fund the
tournament directly.
- Providing a Guide section inbuilt into the game.
- Providing a coaching function inbuilt into the game.
- Providing a public spectator view with casting in game.
- Regular updates(The only game that has instant patches to bug
fixes is wow, the rest of the games suffer).
For example: A current known bug in the game is that, in the
observer interface, you try to set it on default, but every time
you restart the game it resets back to streamlined. This matters
for anyone who is attempting to watch/learn from replays of
themselves(where they went wrong)/other pros. It's been a known
issue since HOTS was in beta, how hard can it be to stop stuff
from resetting?
Now here is something even funnier, SCII was doing a lot better
without Blizzards help with the competitive scene in terms of
hosting tournaments, now that they are helping **** is going
even worse.
For example they hosted the last WCS this year. For anyone who
doesn't know what the WCS is, it's a bunch of tournaments being
held in different regions, this year Blizzard decided to not put
a region lock on the WCS, so every single Region ended up being
a Korean party for the WCS. Not only that but the prize pool was
lowered from when they weren't running it.
Recently they have also prevented other broadcasters from making
tournaments. So those broadcasters are now going to other games
EG: NASL have left the SCII scene.
Also on a side note, they put Season 1 finals this year to be
played at the same time as Dota 2's TI3, that was a huge
mistake. For anyone that has interest in both scenes had to
choose, which of course according to the views at the time, Dota
2 won.
Blizzards view on games is old and deprecated, they are there
for the initial sale of the game, they are not there to maintain
it, they are not there to help esports, which that is ok. That
means that games like LoL and Dota2 will always be far ahead of
anything Blizzard could produce until they change said view.
I'm not 100% unwilling to try the game lol, I'm stating FACT.
It's a fact that Blizzard do not care about their games after
they have set their eyes on a new project.
Warcraft III didn't have to die, but it has, it relied on the
community to run tournaments that include prize money. Since the
community dwindled after WOW's release, it had to face the
inevitability of being removed from all well known community ran
tournaments. Now their Ladder scene is about as big as our Sheep
Tag scene LOL! All tournaments for their ladder scene can be
found here now replayers.com(VERY SAD).
If Blizzard put time and effort into maintaining Warcraft III,
it would be active until Warcraft IV's release.
If they put the time and effort into maintaining Starcraft II,
it would be vastly more active than it currently is.
Diablo III died due to the game mechanics and it isn't the
companies fault, it's head management of that game, they made
some terrible choices with a lot of the things that were
implemented(Otherwise I'd be playing that right now, I was a
HUGE Diablo II Fan Boy. I bought Diablo III when it came out and
had planned to make that my new game, but it got boring after I
reached max level(50 or some**** back then). The spell system
wasn't as good, neither was the item system. The nerfs and
updates were pretty silly and ****(my preferred mode), was not
that great in the 3rd edition of Diablo.
Their most successful game is still booming(WOW), it is still
the most played MMORPG and why is this? They maintain their
game, people don't even mind paying the monthly cost for doing
so. I personally do not like this game, it's not my type of
game, the only bit about WOW I did like was the PVP
capabilities. I soon got bored of that too.
Now ToiletBeer
#Post#: 3234--------------------------------------------------
Re: What kind of games do you play?
DIR By: XXXandBEER
Date: December 3, 2013, 12:43 am
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Holy son of a geek calm down there tiger. Anyways Heroes of the
Storm is going to be free download so your theory on "they only
care about initial release" may be true, but they are going to
have to change that for Heroes of the Storm.
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