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       #Post#: 3025--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: November 17, 2013, 5:48 pm
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       Nobody knows abuse more than me when it comes to clan sth on
       east tft 4-5 years back. I couldn't play on my main, but I went
       on my smurf and everything was fine. Abuse at its finest.
       #Post#: 3026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: Spoofy
       Date: November 17, 2013, 6:39 pm
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       --- Quote ---
       > Nobody knows abuse more than me when it comes to clan sth on
       east tft 4-5 years back. I couldn't play on my main, but I went
       on my smurf and everything was fine. Abuse at its finest.
       --- End Quote ---
       - xxxandbeer
       The good old days lol. Hitlered since 1969.
       These son of a geeks really havent seen hitler until they see
       Grim.Shadow.
       Hitler at its finest. Running StH since 1969. I remember being
       banned for weeks for no reason and without any consequence.
       --- Quote ---
       >
       > Spoofy, why do you ignore what is in front of your face? I'm
       not saying I'm innocent of leaving all games, in fact I've been
       guilty of leaving before sc is even, but I don't make a habit of
       it. Everyone, including you, is guilty of leaving before Sc is
       even at some point in their st career. However, you'd be
       hardpressed to find 2 replays of me "ruining" within the last
       few months. Also, leaving a bulldog game isn't a crime,
       especially when sheep rounds last 1-2 minutes. Leaving before
       even sc isn't a crime in bd, neither is me flaming you. But that
       is all IRRELEVANT.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       - Celestial_One
       I am not ignoring whats in front of my face. I am defending
       myself from sidey's propaganda. I will defend myself from anyone
       who tries to slander my name. I saw my name in your post and
       retorted.
       Also, link me to a post regarding StH standards on what is
       kickable and bannable? non existent.
       Maybe hypocrite is not the best word to describe StH. But
       really, its my perception of them. Point fingers at other clans
       and never take action within their own.
       All that aside, I will agree with some of your post. However, to
       blame all of CsB, to include CandyManKiller or some of the
       shammans mentioned is completely wrong. Its stereotyping at its
       finest.
       I believe CandyManKiller and each shamman is fully capable of
       defending themselves and proving some form of innocence just
       like myself.
       I will not support sidey's propoganda. I think he is in the
       wrong. However, I will not speak for all of CsB shammans, they
       can prove their own innocence.
       "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" - John Emerich Edward
       Dalberg
       Are we really THAT corrupt? Ask yourself that question. Just
       like koala said "its better the devil you know."
       Anyone that holds power will most likely become corrupt to some
       degree.
       #Post#: 3027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: Celestial_One
       Date: November 17, 2013, 6:58 pm
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       Nobody asked StH for standards for kicking and banning, and
       there wasn't a massive rally against StH (maybe there was? I
       don't recall, though). Either way, I'm not saying StH is
       innocent, but beer also ruined half the games he played, get him
       on skype and he won't deny this. He either A. used to run to
       corner and fuck around, or B. left the vast majority of games
       before SC was even. Beer was INFAMOUS for ruining games on east
       along with itio.
       Also, for the record, grim and I never got along because I knew
       he hitlered and was INCREDIBLY emotional. He is the east
       equivalent of jean-mii or polar lol.
       We're not talking about sth 4-5 years ago, when we all were
       emotional highschoolers, we're talking about CsB today. Sick
       redirect, as you would put it. Also, I haven't blamed all of CsB
       or CMK. I made that perfectly clear in my previous posts. It's
       the actions of the few that make the majority look bad. Again,
       my goal isn't to slander anyone or try to make CsB into this
       nasty hitler clan, but you guys are turning blind eyes to the
       abuse of eachother.
       If someone had asked StH to post a standard for kicks and bans
       I'm sure that a lot of the abuse would've been solved on east
       4-5 years ago. However nobody rallied behind such an idea.
       If you want, I can provide those replays for you, if you'd give
       me an email. Note how they haven't defended themselves in this
       thread, because I don't believe they could defend themselves
       especially when they know they are guilty.
       I'm talking to you because I believe you're the most reasonable
       person in CsB, and I hope that they would follow your example.
       If you want we could work on such standards for kicks and bans
       together!
       That's what I'm proposing now, and I don't see how any harm
       could come from that, do you?
       #Post#: 3029--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: Spoofy
       Date: November 17, 2013, 7:41 pm
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       --- Quote ---
       > If you want, I can provide those replays for you, if you'd
       give me an email. Note how they haven't defended themselves in
       this thread, because I don't believe they could defend
       themselves especially when they know they are guilty.
       >
       > I'm talking to you because I believe you're the most
       reasonable person in CsB, and I hope that they would follow your
       example. If you want we could work on such standards for kicks
       and bans together!
       >
       > That's what I'm proposing now, and I don't see how any harm
       could come from that, do you?
       --- End Quote ---
       - Celestial_One
       Send them to sheeptagtop5@live.com, it will suffice.
       I would be willing to create standards for kicks and bans.
       Under the condition that all of this non-sense propaganda
       regarding CsB is trashed on the forums.
       In the future, once these standards are created and implemented.
       Any player that disobeys these rules will be punished.
       (punishments will be agreed upon)
       However, until a future offense is made, I demand CsB to be
       relinquished from all the presently acclaimed "crimes".
       Only then will I agree to create these "rules and standards".
       Otherwise, i do not see any productivity happening with these
       posts, no actions will be taken, and i will most likely start to
       /ignore them.
       #Post#: 3033--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: SharingMyHeroes
       Date: November 18, 2013, 6:37 am
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       to hawkys, I know the game you are talking about,
       and I was actually on skype with both Simba and Baiten.
       Simba decided to kick you then baiten said "now hawkys blaming
       me in /whisper, I tell him its you who kicked him" then simba
       said "ok ill say that you said if you don't kick i remove your
       access".
       Simba was just lying to this point.
       #Post#: 3036--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: November 18, 2013, 8:23 am
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       I said to spoofy and i quote myself
       --- Quote ---
       > apparently simba says baiten told him to do it or he would
       lose admin.
       --- End Quote ---
       I knew it was either 1 of the 2 but thanks for looking into the
       matter and proving you care :)
       #Post#: 3038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: FaceOfMelinda
       Date: November 18, 2013, 2:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: Spoofy link ---
       >
       >
       > I would be willing to create standards for kicks and bans.
       >
       > Under the condition that all of this non-sense propaganda
       regarding CsB is trashed on the forums.
       >
       > In the future, once these standards are created and
       implemented. Any player that disobeys these rules will be
       punished. (punishments will be agreed upon)
       >
       > However, until a future offense is made, I demand CsB to be
       relinquished from all the presently acclaimed "crimes".
       >
       > Only then will I agree to create these "rules and standards".
       >
       > Otherwise, i do not see any productivity happening with these
       posts, no actions will be taken, and i will most likely start to
       /ignore them.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Translation: Stop all criticism towards CsB or we will keep
       everyone banned and not do anything about the current situation.
       How much more clear-cut does it get? No one is allowed to
       criticize CsB or they will get and remain banned. Just like me.
       Just like Hawkys. Just like Trollpro.
       Spoofy is the most lenient shaman in CsB and he is saying this
       kind of trash. Imagine what the others are like. Oh yeah, we
       don't need to imagine because we've seen what they're capable
       of. Banning people for flames, for criticism, and for doing
       anything that annoys them. Meanwhile, they themselves are guilty
       of the same crimes they accuse others' of and 10x worse.
       But yeah I think the most DISGUSTING thing is that Spoofy etc
       refuses to criticize Baiten/Jeanmii ****listing everyone from
       the channel etc. You should all seriously be ashamed of your
       behaviour. You're not worthy of this community.
       #Post#: 3040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: Wrda
       Date: November 18, 2013, 5:22 pm
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       --- Quote ---
       > Translation: Stop all criticism towards CsB or we will keep
       everyone banned and not do anything about the current situation.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Fallacy of straw doll.
       Instead of rewriting the arguement of spoofy, you should refute
       it, but since you have 0 evidence and don't have a brain, you
       say shit.
       Once again FaceOfToilets you fail.
       #Post#: 3041--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: FaceOfMelinda
       Date: November 18, 2013, 5:26 pm
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       I should refute the fact that CsB bans everyone and then uses
       that as leverage to silence any criticism towards them?
       No, that would be your job - if anything.
       Spoofy outright admitted to this: CsB is a hitler clan with
       hitler policies.
       Why don't you stop licking CsB asshole, bring some objectivity
       to the discussion, and increase your post quality. I really
       should delete your last post but I'll let it go this time. Add
       discussion value to the thread or don't post.
       #Post#: 3042--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CsB Chronicles
   DIR By: Spoofy
       Date: November 18, 2013, 6:31 pm
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       --- Quote ---
       > But yeah I think the most DISGUSTING thing is that Spoofy etc
       refuses to criticize Baiten/Jeanmii ****listing everyone from
       the channel etc. You should all seriously be ashamed of your
       behaviour. You're not worthy of this community.
       --- End Quote ---
       - sidey
       Really that is the most DISGUSTING thing to you? Criticizing my
       own clan mates is the least productive thing to do. Its just
       talk, no action.
       Just like your post, its just talk, no action.
       We should be ashamed of our behavior AND not worth of this
       community?  Good joke. We keep sheep tag active, we play it
       daily, we rent host bots, we keep the toilets out of the games.
       We are the police, hate us if you want, but we will keep shit
       running.
       You have not seen hitler. You are just butthurt and have a
       fragile ego because you were banned for insolence.
       note: Hawkys is not banned. Neither is trollpro I think.
       CsB = sheep tagging in the corner (paramedics)
       Sidey = Crazy mongo who attacks them (escaped insane asylum?)
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