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CsB Chronicles
DIR By: FaceOfMelinda
Date: November 17, 2013, 12:59 pm
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This thread is about lies, about corruption, about propaganda
and deception. This is a synthesis of all the crimes CsB have
committed, their maladaptive policies, and their lick-system.
CsB – in this case Baiten, CMK, Polar, JeanMii, and Spoofy – are
selling you all a fairy tale. A fairy tale about CsB: the
guardian white knights in shining armour, protectors of all that
is good and just on a mission to take down the evil maffia
bosses Tollison, Trollpro, Hawkys, and now me. The fact is that
Tollison, Trollpro, etc are victims. They may have ruined a few
games, but they haven’t done anything to damage the community in
the larger scale of things. People are going to rage, get
emotional, and so forth – there is ultimately little we can do
about that. This is the case in any society and why bureaucracy
exists – so that there are licenses for everything and so that
if a fault is committed the victim can contact the perpetrator’s
boss and review the perpetrator.
In CsB things are different. There is a lick-system. This means
that when a fault is committed everyone covers up for one
another. If Baiten does something bad – it’s ok – because CsB
people are friends and as long as they’re friends nothing bad
will happen. This is a dangerous system because it eliminates
criticism and removes all limits when it comes to power. People
in CsB with power are given free reign to do whatever the hell
they want without consequence. They are not held accountable.
There is a massive double standard where people outside of CsB
get banned from games for little things like flaming and
‘ruining’ whereas anyone in CsB with power can do whatever the
hell they want. They flame, they end games, they kick people,
they mute, they do whatever the hell they please without
accountability. They also argue that none of this is true as
seen in the previous thread:
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This thread exemplifies the CsB culture. None of them criticize
each other. Not a single piece of criticism is offered by a CsB
shaman against another CsB shaman. Perhaps they are not guilty
of anything, but that seems impossibly implausible if you take
the time to read the thread. What makes you think this is
anything different from what takes place in their channel and in
games? They stick together, they do what they want, and they
don’t give a **** about following their own ‘rules.’
This is why they are plague of the community. This is why
people like Hawkys get banned for months. This is why anyone
that REFUSES to submit to their defunct code of non-morality is
exiled from their channel and their games. Case in point: ME. I
brought up all their dirty baggage in the previous thread –
whilst they argued valiantly for pages and pages that they were
innocent – they then decided that the best course of action to
take was to ban me. For what? For criticising them, for refusing
to cave in, and for not accepting their mode of behaviour.
CsB is guilty of:
Banning people from their channel for criticizing their
behaviour (e.g., me).
Banning people from their channel and games because of flaming
even though they flame even more (e.g., Hawkys).
Not applying any of their own 'rules' to others. If you're in
CsB you're exempt from any rules.
Never criticizing each other, not having any objectivity.
A clan guilty of these crimes is a disgusting clan. It's time to
make them famous for their disgusting practices. Put them in the
dog-house where they belong.
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: koala
Date: November 17, 2013, 2:05 pm
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Better the devil you know! Though CsB is surely not even half as
impartial or rational as they claim to be but I saw a replay of
HaWkys when he was intentionally ruining before this debacle.
Sometimes it seems people want to carry on like morons without
consequence then cry foul play when they have been dealt with.
Obviously this ban went on for far too long because HaWkys went
on a tirade and a lot of emotions were in play. A disgusting
state of affairs nonetheless.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!SoR!
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: MasteR[StH]
Date: November 17, 2013, 2:13 pm
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How sidey and his gang took down csb!
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but really no one is as bad or as good as they appear in wciii
or on this forums.
i have seen people banned for little or no reason. (also have
seen people that should be kicked or banned but are not)
i have seen several csb leave for no reason/rq/plug/or just afk.
(however that seems to be the nature of some people not a
characteristic of just a clan)
i have seen people kicked or not let in so csb members can afk
in game to watch and talk about the people playing.
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: November 17, 2013, 2:18 pm
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I think the reason why so many ppl in CsB think they are
innocent is because they haven't felt the abuse. I've certainly
been on the receiving end of abuse MORE THAN ONCE. You can even
ask me on BNet. JM has banned me for reasons other than game
ruining. Spoofy banned me for chakra banning him. I've been
muted in-game before. I've been kicked by polar so that it could
be 3v5.
That's 3 cases right there.
I don't gameruin. I flame a lot, but that's only because I'm the
target of a lot of flames for being gay so I flame back.
Now don't get me wrong. I'm grateful CsB is keeping sheep tag
alive, but I don't think that is reason enough to abuse power.
Hitler brought Germany out of nasty depression, surely his
persecution of jews was justified!
The solution lies in not having every member of the clan having
access to every single bot... Some people clearly aren't
responsible or reasonable enough to have the power to kick or
ban anyone.
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: SharingMyHeroes
Date: November 17, 2013, 2:32 pm
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Do you think because you post with BOLD characters/in red/with
pictures => true?
AGAIN you post 0 EVIDENCE whatsoever, this post is as INVALID as
other.
BTW: stop saying I banned you for criticizing CsB, if that would
be true half community would be banned.
Haters gonna hate forever.
Come at us, try it, try your hardest,
You will not take CsB down.
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: November 17, 2013, 2:44 pm
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Ye baiten said that if simba didnt kick me from game that he
would lose admin. I got kicked when i didn't do or say anything.
Some of CsB (Not all) should be burned at the stake.
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: Spoofy
Date: November 17, 2013, 3:11 pm
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> I don't gameruin. I flame a lot, but that's only because I'm
the target of a lot of flames for being gay so I flame back.
--- End Quote ---
- celestial_one
Cele, you are not a saint dude. You flamed me for 0 reason
during that bulldog game. I flamed you back. You QQ'd cause cant
handle my flames and left. Chakra banned me from bot and
channel. I saw elemental and (i cant recall if i saw you but im
pretty sure I did) supporting the ban from channel. I then went
onto europe and banned you from my personal bot.
You gameruin. You have RAGE QUIT from games before plenty of
time. After I killed you with that ranged double golem in Sheep
tag top 5 plays, you RAGED quit. There have been other cases of
you leaving game by raging.
Dont try to be a victim. You are DEFINITELY not one.
--- Quote ---
> The solution lies in not having every member of the clan
having access to every single bot... Some people clearly aren't
responsible or reasonable enough to have the power to kick or
ban anyone.
--- End Quote ---
- celestial_one
I will always have access to my own bot. And yes, I will ban and
kick who I deem worthy of it. Its not often I do so though. If
you think this is hitler or harsh, refer to my icecream analogy
in my other post. CBA to repeat it.
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> Ye baiten said that if simba didnt kick me from game that he
would lose admin. I got kicked when i didn't do or say anything.
Some of CsB (Not all) should be burned at the stake.
--- End Quote ---
- hawkys
Post a screenshot or anything to prove this happened? Do not
trust simba's words.
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: Wrda
Date: November 17, 2013, 3:28 pm
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--- Quote from: HaWkys link ---
>
> Ye baiten said that if simba didnt kick me from game that he
would lose admin. I got kicked when i didn't do or say anything.
Some of CsB (Not all) should be burned at the stake.
>
--- End Quote ---
I really have never seen anyone from csb banning you. But if you
say so that this is true, I will really be disappointed with
baiten :-\ Since I have never kicked/banned anyone for no
reason, I don't like when people kick and ban for nothing. I
only ban true turds. Like sidey.
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> Celestial_One - I don't gameruin. I flame a lot, but that's
only because I'm the target of a lot of flames for being gay so
I flame back.
>
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What if you start the flame? You're not going to say that people
abuse on you for muting and kicking you for no reason, no?
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: November 17, 2013, 3:45 pm
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i am going on simbas word so i cannot say for definite it is
true because simba cant show proof, however when it happened
baiten /w me telling me that simba is a dick ect. Baiten and
simba DO TALK in skype. simba cannot show me proof because it
was on a call over skype but i know baiten and it sounds like
something he would do.
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Re: CsB Chronicles
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: November 17, 2013, 5:35 pm
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> What if you start the flame? You're not going to say that
people abuse on you for muting and kicking you for no reason,
no?
--- End Quote ---
I'm saying peple have kicked/banned me for no substantial
reason. Nothing having to do with gameplay, therefore unworthy
of a kick. Flaming is a natural part of euro culture. Ppl will
flame eachother like nuts all the time... it's part of the fun.
Are you saying you don't flame? You flame whenever you get the
chance lol. Regardless of who starts flaming it's never a reason
to kick someone imo. If that's a standard you're implementing on
your bots, then make it known and nobody should flame anyone,
and if a shaman or someone else from CsB flames, then they
should be kicked too instead of granted immunity.
Spoofy, why do you ignore what is in front of your face? I'm not
saying I'm innocent of leaving all games, in fact I've been
guilty of leaving before sc is even, but I don't make a habit of
it. Everyone, including you, is guilty of leaving before Sc is
even at some point in their st career. However, you'd be
hardpressed to find 2 replays of me "ruining" within the last
few months. Also, leaving a bulldog game isn't a crime,
especially when sheep rounds last 1-2 minutes. Leaving before
even sc isn't a crime in bd, neither is me flaming you. But that
is all IRRELEVANT.
Polar and jean-mii are guilty of abusing their power on more
than one occasion without any apology. Polar has kicked me to
make it 3v5 (or 2v4, I can't recall, and yeah I have the
replay). Jean-mii has banned me and not lifted the ban after we
flamed eachother (I believe I have the replay for this too!).
People are telling me baiten does too though I haven't seen it
first-hand, or felt its effects like the aforementioned.
I don't understand why you're turning a blind eye to all this.
You respond to one part of my post, but completely look over
what I'm really getting at. There is clearly abuse going on in
CsB, and while some of the kicks and bans might be legit a lot
of them aren't. All the CsB shamans seem to be covering for
eachother or just completely overlooking what another one
does... I'm not a saint, but neither are you or your clanmates.
CsB needs to implement a standard of what is kickable and
bannable, make a post to refer to, and follow said standard.
The punishment for not following said standards should be
removal of access. It's as simple as that. I'm not like sidey,
I'm not out to slander your name. I just want the disgusting
abuse to stop.
That's all I'm asking for. I'm not asking for you guys to
disband, give up your power, or stop playing sheep tag. I'm
asking something pretty reasonable, and beneficial to the
community.
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