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       #Post#: 2556--------------------------------------------------
       Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: Alph4bet
       Date: November 3, 2013, 11:39 am
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       I would like to make a proposal to ban Hawkeys for two days from
       attending games and NamikaziMinato(for one game) (The reason two
       days being is because they probably don't know about the cut
       downs on game ruining, this will be a warning, next time it will
       be a week)
       All of the reasons to place a Ban/Probationary period upon
       someone can be found here
  HTML http://sheeptag.createaforum.com/community-discussion/exilingbanningkicking-issue-mikes-fix/msg2504/#msg2504.
       In the replay(located here
  HTML http://hardfarm.net/evidence/HawkeysandNamikaziMinato.w3g)
       you
       will see NMCDO starting to do sick run st at 34:50.
       At 35:00 NamikaziMinato Paused
       At 35:01 NamikaziMinato paused yet again(You will see a black
       line effect on the replay).
       At 35:07 and 35:08 Hawkeys had paused twice(Once again the black
       line effect on the replay is visible).
       At 35:13 Hawkeys then saved the game(Black line effect visible
       and the bot lets you know that he saved the game by stating it).
       At 35:15 NamikaziMinato saved the game(Black line effect visible
       and the bot lets you know that he saved the game by stating it).
       At 35:18 NMCDO was in the clear and was past Shepherds on his
       way to save in middle(Due to the fact they were trying to
       pause/save as oppose to play the game).
       At 35:20 NMCDO was ejected from the game by NamikaziMinato. When
       on the verge of saving myself(dark green).
       For those who watch the whole replay NMCDO did some decent run
       tag throughout the game. I failed(lag is no excuse I shouldn't
       have played that badly even in 1 - 2 sec delay).
       I also would like NamikaziMinato Warned by CMK/Spoofy/(whoever
       owns sor_bot) to not eject anyone like that from a game again.
       He should be acquainted with the rules if he wishes to use the
       bot to host, next offence if done deliberately like this was.
       Should be a admin removal.
       I will add Hawkeys name to a "Probationary/Banned User List". If
       you find the evidence insufficient(you shouldn't), I will
       immediately remove his name.
       Replay can be found here
  HTML http://hardfarm.net/evidence/HawkeysandNamikaziMinato.w3g
       Edit: Hawkeys pointed out something in my rules and he's right,
       therefore NamikaziMinato, only banned for one game. Hawkeys
       still banned for two.
       #Post#: 2561--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: November 3, 2013, 12:00 pm
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       It was the last fair, we were all joking around (I don't
       consider sheeps running out of mass to get runtag material a
       real game) so the the evidence is insufficient and stop being a
       baby. It was 2v3 with 70 gold i believe (also not a real game)
       ghod also left without it being fair but was there a ban for
       him? No, stop targeting certain individuals because you felt
       cheated at a game where we were all messing around.
       #Post#: 2563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: November 3, 2013, 12:03 pm
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       and according to your rules :
       --- Quote ---
       > whether you are a leader in this community or Hawkeys, if you
       deliberately ruin a game and everyone agrees that you did,
       you're not allowed in the remake, A short 1 game ban.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       U went against your own rules because it should be a short 1
       game ban. I make the proposal to ban Alph4bet for not following
       his own rules for a period of 2 days.
       #Post#: 2564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: Alph4bet
       Date: November 3, 2013, 12:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: HaWkys link ---
       >
       > and according to your rules : [quote]whether you are a leader
       in this community or Hawkeys, if you deliberately ruin a game
       and everyone agrees that you did, you're not allowed in the
       remake, A short 1 game ban.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       U went against your own rules because it should be a short 1
       game ban. I make the proposal to ban Alph4bet for not following
       his own rules for a period of 2 days.
       [/quote]
       --- Quote ---
       >
       > Midterm bans, Two days - One week bans
       > In order for this to happen you need to have repeat offences
       of game ruining and ruined the game more than once and are
       currently a casual game ruiner.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You are a previous offender. Two days and it is just a little
       ban Hawkeys,I know you just got unbanned. But look, don't do it?
       How would you like it if we did that to you while you were run
       sting?
       Edit: Oh and Ghod. Asked for permission he did not leave the
       game until we said "ok if you really need to go".
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       > 3. Leaving before fair is done, If a few Sheep haven't had a
       turn in the game, and someone has to go, that person is allowed
       to leave, provided that he tells the rest of the people in the
       game and is genuin. That person will not be allowed in the
       remake though, because that person had to leave. Otherwise if it
       isn't a scenario like that one then you can be reported.
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 2567--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: November 3, 2013, 1:10 pm
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       I am not a previous offender since u made these rules yesterday.
       You can keep me on your "scoreboard" if you like, none the less
       we were all having fun including nmcdo. Its a shame you didn't
       #Post#: 2568--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: 008
       Date: November 3, 2013, 2:06 pm
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       I must agree with hawkys on this one. None of us ( i think )
       were really caring about this.
       #Post#: 2570--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: November 3, 2013, 3:32 pm
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       Exactly, no one took that round serious. #FreeHaWkys and thanks
       for stating your opinion 008 :D
       #Post#: 2572--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: Alph4bet
       Date: November 3, 2013, 6:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: 008 link ---
       >
       > I must agree with hawkys on this one. None of us ( i think )
       were really caring about this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: HaWkys link ---
       >
       > Exactly, no one took that round serious. #FreeHaWkys and
       thanks for stating your opinion 008 :D
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I personally didn't care, I think NMCDO at the time, definitely
       cared because after the game he said "Did I really get
       disconnected" to me in a whisper. I was like no, You got booted.
       He then showed frustration. It was disgusting to be honest. If
       nmcdo says he didn't care, topic closed and you're taken off the
       list.
       #Post#: 2574--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: 008
       Date: November 3, 2013, 10:02 pm
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       We should not forgot that we play sheep tag for fun. Of course
       he was frustrated at first but 10 second after he was already in
       another game. It was the last fair and they were doing it for
       fun. We must consider the context of the game before banning
       everyone...
       For example, from adam's video, you can clearly see cmk trying
       to tk his allies for fun. I do not think that they were saying:
       Yee he's trying to tk me COOL. Still, that tk is in the video
       because it was huge fun to watch.
       - 008
       #Post#: 2575--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
   DIR By: koala
       Date: November 4, 2013, 1:45 am
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       Honestly.. if it was a 2v3. I think this should be one warn for
       both players if not 2 warns but even in such a "non-serious"
       context this behaviour shouldn't be tolerated. I don't think
       anyone should take it upon themselves to kick ANYONE in game. A
       votekick should be applied and only when everyone in the game
       agrees that the player who is blatantly ruining deserved to be
       ejected from the game. I know it's a fine line and most kids
       have their own definition of what constitutes ruining. Polar for
       example thinks "bad play" is ruining.
       It should be 3 warns before you lose host access on whatever
       bot, get a 1 day ban and then after one month you can reapply
       for hostbot access. You kind of messed up mike. We were playing
       and you've made a proposal to ban warn HaWkys and Namikaze and
       then banned them before anyone could review it. Polar takes this
       opportunity to kick HaWkys and let Namikaze stay. I was fine
       with both playing. The hitler era of hostbots are coming to an
       end and this was kind of lame lol.
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