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       #Post#: 2035--------------------------------------------------
       Some general community discussion
   DIR By: Tollison
       Date: October 22, 2013, 3:07 pm
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       First of all, I believe it is time to unban Hawkys from
       everything at this point.  The 1 game I played with him he did
       not ruin it at all by afking or leaving unnecessarily.
       Second, there is a coalition of players trying to exclude me
       from playing any games at all.  They would rather see me forever
       gone rather than wanting to help me, but they aren't capable of
       doing so.  These players are: Mappy, Nightmare, Shoop, and
       somewhat Polar.
       I do very well in games, but they point out what I haven't done
       and say it is a mistake.  I do make mistakes, and so does
       everyone else and they also point those out which is something I
       don't do to them.  I know what there is to know about ST and I
       apply it, what they don't understand is that it isn't what I
       don't do that is a mistake, but what it is I do.  They would
       rather point out and insult me for my mistakes instead of
       congratulate me on my achievements.  For example: I help save A
       LOT of people from being isolated, I use my mirror images, which
       have helped wolves kill sheep countless times, I help wolves
       that are mid by killing special farms such as sentries, auras,
       and frosts, I constantly look and am able to point out sheeps
       that may become isolated with proper teamwork and I do ping
       where I believe would be the most efficient sheep to isolate.
       Shoop, a great team player, is one of my main concerns.  Every
       game where there is A FULL HOUSE full of players that know what
       they're doing, he seeks to kick who he believes, but isn't true,
       to be the most least valuable player out of the game in order to
       bring in someone of higher stature and reverence.  Shoops clan,
       which is probably only going to hold about 15 players at most,
       is an example of how he is toxic to the community.  Rather than
       being an active and fruitful clan he would rather have a small
       and not so elite clan which technically wouldn't be possible to
       have if it weren't for all the HUGE clans that have come before
       it.
       Amir is also out to discredit me, for some odd reason.  A month
       ago he pulled up a screenshot that he took a year ago and said
       that chakra showed him the screenshot, and chakra, a trustful
       person who sticks to his word, denied doing so and even proved
       how old that screenshot was by showing us how long ago one
       certain account had logged onto which was over a year ago.
       My grand scheme is to show you all how much the STC is toxic to
       itself.  Many good players are distrustful, hateful, and
       destructive to each other.  Rather than playing the game because
       it's fun there are many other factors as to why people come on
       to play.  For example: Many players seek out to be seen as the
       greatest player to have ever played rather than being the
       greatest teammate to have ever played.  Everyone masses to the
       corners and hardly anyone ever goes back to the middle to
       harrass shepherds and to fill in the mass that has been divided
       which would have to make the shepherds start cutting in that
       direction all over again to control the middle.  blah blah blah
       #Post#: 2036--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: October 22, 2013, 3:14 pm
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       welcome back tolli. ^^
       #Post#: 2037--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: SHEePYTaGGeRNeP
       Date: October 22, 2013, 3:22 pm
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       I agree with what tollison said.
       It's f*cking crazy how much sh!t was going on today.
       Everyone flamed tollison and shoop, vote kicking like crazy and
       so much more.
       Then I was somehow red and polar, night, mappy and idk who more
       ruined on purpose by not building anything, because they had
       tollison in their team.
       Im pretty sure that if we are going to exile frost, ghod or
       hawkys, that night and polar should be exiled too.
       I don't think STC has any chance of ever becoming as great as it
       once was, mainly due:
       - people playing this game too self-centered
       - don't care about other people.
       - playing this game so serious that they point every single
       mistake instead of enjoy the game.
       #Post#: 2038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: HaWkys
       Date: October 22, 2013, 3:23 pm
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       Agreed
       #Post#: 2039--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: Alph4bet
       Date: October 22, 2013, 3:32 pm
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       Yoyo tolli,
       I have to admit after playing with/against you yesterday I found
       some things annoying, during times(EG the start) where you need
       to build. You prefer harassing the wolves for no reason. Should
       only be harassing for one of these reasons:
       To attack mid,
       Because the team has expanded everywhere now it's time to
       reclaim territory that may have been lost.
       To bridge to allies and get some of the wolves off of your team
       mate.
       Even when I was wolf, I was like "wtf is tollison doing he's
       deliberately not helping out his team"
       Here is another thing, so yesterday I saw that you were isolated
       and I couldn't help you that effectively(Due to me having lag),
       so I went and secured mid. I then saved you, but you tried to
       stop me from saving you, then when I did save you, you ran
       straight at another wolf and said "DON'T EVER SAVE ME". Why not
       just accept help from the team, especially when they expect help
       from you. That was highly annoying because, they got an extra
       kill, therefore more gold for golems/cloaks etc... When if you
       just tried to stay alive instead of going emo, we would have had
       extra gold without giving them some.
       You're wolfing seems to be fine from what I saw,you help your
       team, ping isolation. etc.. You're fine. Gj. Ignore shoop kid
       went to special school, and I don't mean Hogwarts.
       #Post#: 2040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: FaceOfMelinda
       Date: October 22, 2013, 4:06 pm
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       If Tollison really is as bad as you've all implied you should
       easily be able to produce evidence to convince the rest of us.
       GIVE ME EVIDENCE!
       #Post#: 2041--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: Shyamora[SkS]
       Date: October 22, 2013, 4:21 pm
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       Tollison is a decent sheeptagger for sure, atleat as decent as
       half the STC at the moment. The fact that he works in a team
       limits his ability to play as much as it does with me.
       Today, sheeptaggers are egoistic unless they're sure they've got
       a good team. They only wanna be last survivors and the guys who
       produce the 'materials' and 'plays' because they're last
       survivors. The sense of teamplay, as Tolli says, is gone for a
       large part.
       Asides from that, people are flaming more than ever before.
       Before, we had sheeptag and flaming, now we have flaming and
       sheeptag. This is brought on by disgusting people who have no
       sense for the STC and who do nothing other than criticize others
       on whatever behaviour they might have. These people are TOXIC,
       they're the death-sentence for this community. They destroy more
       then they ever might hope to recreate or help set up. The
       attitudes of people in this community is so fcking shitty that
       people leave the community, which is extremely small already,
       every week. These faggots HAVE to stop if we want the STC to
       continue existing. Ofcourse, I know flaming is a part of this
       community, but the things that happen here are childish,
       discriminating, racist and retarded. Bring witty burns and
       appropriate flames = GOOD. Bring shit like 'ban because bad
       wolf' or 'kick because better player wants to join' and I lose
       faith in the people who run this community more and more.
       Start fixxing this community toilets. I've been trying to do
       this, and there are others who are seriously working on trying
       to get this to roll properly again, but if there are people who
       are deliberately antagonizing and realizing hatred in this
       community, then what point is there?
       Get your fcking sh!t together people. Seriously.
       #Post#: 2048--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: Tollison
       Date: October 23, 2013, 1:40 am
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       I should expand more as sheep, and should work as a better
       teammate as wolf.
       #Post#: 2061--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: Night
       Date: October 23, 2013, 9:08 am
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       Let's be clear here-> This is the first time tollison was seen
       ruining games INTENTIONALLY.
       I have been playing st for a while and before i never complained
       that tollison is ruining because i thought he is just THAT bad.
       But after yesterday it was clear that tollison refuses to be
       saved, runs around shop doing nothing, cuts random farms.
       As mentioned before, this is the first violation and i would be
       glad to forgive tollison for his disgusting behaviour IF he
       formally apologises for ruining wolving/sheeping for atleast 10
       people yesterday.
       #Post#: 2063--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some general community discussion
   DIR By: Tollison
       Date: October 23, 2013, 1:30 pm
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       I'm sorry for refusing to be saved but I must admit that most
       wolves playing have no clue what they're doing.  They just cut
       towards sheep for no apparent reason.
       I was holding mid constantly because my wolf team had no sense
       of which sheeps to isolate.
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