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#Post#: 1705--------------------------------------------------
Advancement of St Community
DIR By: Alph4bet
Date: October 1, 2013, 3:31 am
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So SwedishChef.Lc sent me a message on youtube or w/e, since
then I have been trolling these forums for the past month or so,
I never bothered to make an account because playing Sheep Tag
does not interest me that much anymore. What does interest me is
seeing this game take off. I made one today after seeing
Tollisons post "Revo and the STC"
The point of my post is to let the community know the abilities
I possess at the moment(due to my time at uni).
As some know I have been studying Computer Science at Swinburne
University, one of the best technological Universities in
Australia. This Semester I'm having to design and implement a
league website for some Soccer League in Victoria(We are given
real clients lol). Without going too in depth of what that
entails I can port what I do for the Soccer League and use it in
Sheep Tag.
If you, the community are interested in this then keep reading
as I describe the features and what it means to the st
community.
Now first of all, my aim will be the same as I had a long time
ago, the website will have multiple aims.
Aim One: Create an intricate system where all parts of the
system will interlink with one another to provide the following
features.
1. A Member Login System
All members will have their own bio page and will be allowed to
create/join a Sheep Tag Team.
2. A Team System
All teams will have their own about us page, where their members
will be listed, their past competitive matches with links to
possible replays, The teams logo, a little bit of information
about their team, who the captain is, what league they are in
etc... It will be really easy to access this team page with a
url link looking something like this
"www.sheeptag.net/Teams=StH".
All teams will be added to their appropriate league(At the
moment the community is extremely small so there would only be
one league at the start).
3. A League System
A league will have the following:
.A fixture giving a detail of who is vsing who, and during what
time period.
.A Ladder showing who is coming first/last etc.
.A possible Prize.
4. A Light CMS
This will be used for several backend things and will need quite
a few volunteers helping out with its usage. A CMS stands for a
Content Management System, it will control what is seen on any
of the main pages of the Sheep Tag Website. For example news
articles etc...
5. A Guide section on how to do different techniques in sheep
tag etc..
6. A Media section displaying embedded youtube videos of Sheep
taggers
7. A forum where the community are actively involved on the
following:
-They can suggest possible map changes where the map developer
looks to for inspiration.
-Where just like right now community discussions can occur about
any topic.
NOTE: we can use this forum, I don't care, the only thing is,
that eventually after everything is complete it would be more
user friendly to just use a forum I make, because if you do not,
you will have to login twice instead of just once(That's fine, I
don't care it's up to the community).
Aim Two: Make this whole website responsive(Meaning that it is
mobile/tablet friendly). So you can access it no matter the
device.
Aim Three: Market the website and have all Warcraft III realms
increasing in activity. (This is most likely not achievable, but
what I would like to do is have the sole reason for people to
play Warcraft III at all, would be to play Sheep Tag. A lot of
my friends in real life didn't play war3 until they heard about
Dota 1. They were playing it for ages and got involved in the
dota community(I joined later of course). The feedback I would
like to receive is that people are starting to play war3 again,
but not for ladder, or for dota, but for ST!)
Now I leave you with just three last things.
1. If I were to develop this the community would have to be
serious in how they treat the game, for not only is it costing
me time, but it would cost me money repurchasing the domain name
and possible tournament prizes.
2. If you are wanting this and are willing to help make st
active again then I require a few things before I start work to
ensure that I'm not wasting my time:
A. All of you band behind one map creator and actively discuss
possible changes. The map creator doesn't have to implement your
change, the creator should only feel inspired by it. If the
creator does implement your idea count yourself lucky, don't
boycott etc... Give honest feedback not trolls.
B. All of you start to make teams of five, get more than just
one or two teams, create multiple teams and vs each other
nightly in a competitive state. Upload these replays onto this
forum, giving the results and make plans to vs each other again.
Try to get at least 8 teams together. Don't smurf and when you
create a team, make sure that you're all on team speak and you
are listening to each other.
C. Host the map on both reign of chaos and frozen throne and
make the game end after one round, get more people into the
community! If all of you go out and get two people each, this
community would be growing in no time! I had 50+ Aussies playing
during the week most nights before I left last time, if this
dumb Aussie can do it, then surely you intelligent
Americans/Europeans will be able to do tons better.
3. If you are wanting this, and perhaps want to suggest add-ons
to the features I have listed, comment below.
#Post#: 1707--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: Chiefhero[sks]
Date: October 1, 2013, 12:45 pm
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a project like this seems to be good for the community. the only
thing that bothers me is that it will cost you a chunk of money.
purchasing a domain seems acceptable (how much does this cost
anyway?). seems like a good idea to postpone the prizemoney
until later though (possibly have teams chip on @ the prizemoney
so that mike/alphabeth doesn't have to carry the whole burden).
ideally => buy this new domain, copy all the content from this
forum onto the new one, and move on from there. this forum is
down 24/7 and censors everything + limited possibilities.
this was a nice idea, i support :D but calm down on the
ambition, don't spend a shitload of cash at this project from
the get-go. i don't think it will be worth it.
#Post#: 1709--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: SHEePYTaGGeRNeP
Date: October 1, 2013, 3:58 pm
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I agree with Amir.
I do think that this is really good for the community, but on
the other hand I don't think the community is serious enough for
ladders and teams etc, then again only one way to find out.
I for instance do not play this serious anymore and therefor
would not need the teams section and everything.
But I like your spirit!
Let's see what everyone has to say about this.
#Post#: 1713--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: Shyamora[SkS]
Date: October 1, 2013, 5:27 pm
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I love the idea. I will do everything I can to support and help
it!
'1. A Member Login System
All members will have their own bio page and will be allowed to
create/join a Sheep Tag Team.'
Expectable and good. Especially the team part. Perhaps though
expand it to sheep tag teams within a clan. So like 'RoOkIeS' -
Clan StH.
'2. A Team System'
Love it. Everything about it.. The bio page, the automatic
league adding, logos.. This'd be great..
3. A League System
4. A Light CMS
I will gladly help to the fullest of my abilities.
5. A Guide section on how to do different techniques in sheep
tag etc..
If we get public players to visit the website, this is an
absolute must. Would be great if we get this started with a
collaboration of people. Making guides etc.
6. A Media section displaying embedded youtube videos of Sheep
taggers
Could be fun, though I think a section in the forums for this
would be enough since there's not that many sheeptag videos
anyways.
7. A forum where the community are actively involved on the
following:
-They can suggest possible map changes where the map developer
looks to for inspiration.
-Where just like right now community discussions can occur about
any topic.
Essentially the same as we had for years, and definitely a must
if we're going to create an overall platform website for
sheeptag. The map suggestion part is new, and perhaps should be
limited to a section in the forums, same a sheeptag videos =).
As Amir said, just transfer the content of this forum to that
one, if possible, if not, go for that new forum alltogether I'd
say.
Aim Two: Make this whole website responsive(Meaning that it is
mobile/tablet friendly). So you can access it no matter the
device.
Would be cool though I'd personally not use it.. I don't think
there's a huge demand on this, but is a nice extra if it's not
too much trouble, work on the computer site first though.
Aim Three: Market the website and have all Warcraft III realms
increasing in activity. (This is most likely not achievable, but
what I would like to do is have the sole reason for people to
play Warcraft III at all, would be to play Sheep Tag. A lot of
my friends in real life didn't play war3 until they heard about
Dota 1. They were playing it for ages and got involved in the
dota community(I joined later of course). The feedback I would
like to receive is that people are starting to play war3 again,
but not for ladder, or for dota, but for ST!)
This is insane. I love the idea of it, but I do not think it's
very possible. This would mean marketing on a scale that we have
never even thought of before. This'd be going to websites and
posting adverts about 'sheeptag on wc3!'.. That's crazy just
thinking about it ^^
Love the idea though, seriously.
Now I leave you with just three last things.
1. If I were to develop this the community would have to be
serious in how they treat the game, for not only is it costing
me time, but it would cost me money repurchasing the domain name
and possible tournament prizes.
The money thing for now should only be the domain, nothing more
than that. But yea, I'm very serious on this aswell, and I would
gladly spend a lot of time helping in whichever way I can.
A. All of you band behind one map creator and actively discuss
possible changes. The map creator doesn't have to implement your
change, the creator should only feel inspired by it. If the
creator does implement your idea count yourself lucky, don't
boycott etc... Give honest feedback not trolls.
Support from me on this point. The problem is that there's a lot
of <65 IQ people in this community, so there'll always be people
who want to boycott etc. Besides, we need to find a dedicated
map editor who will create the map according to the community
and not to his/her own wishes. This'll be hard to find since
there are very few people with advanced map-making skills : /
B. All of you start to make teams of five, get more than just
one or two teams, create multiple teams and vs each other
nightly in a competitive state. Upload these replays onto this
forum, giving the results and make plans to vs each other again.
Try to get at least 8 teams together. Don't smurf and when you
create a team, make sure that you're all on team speak and you
are listening to each other.
Am already in a team =) I don't think we currently have enough
people to get 8 teams together though. (tbh, I'm sure we don't)
but the idea is a good one, and I would like to see other
sheeptaggers creating these teams aswell to bring back
competitive sheeptag!
C. Host the map on both reign of chaos and frozen throne and
make the game end after one round, get more people into the
community! If all of you go out and get two people each, this
community would be growing in no time!
I've been saying this for weeks (except for the TFT part, though
I've tried that) and I agree wholeheartedly. People need to act
more for the community and less for private games. Private games
will increase once the community grows. Making public games is
an investment for sheeptag, and automatically for your own
gaming-pleasure.
Cheers Mike. Love it all!
#Post#: 1714--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: October 1, 2013, 5:29 pm
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ye give the toilet money so he can waste it on himself and say
its for the community lol
#Post#: 1715--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: Shoop
Date: October 1, 2013, 5:45 pm
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Give us a new forum and make me mod. This one sucks balls...
#Post#: 1716--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: October 1, 2013, 5:49 pm
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the shoop hitler will never gain power
#Post#: 1718--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: Alph4bet
Date: October 1, 2013, 8:23 pm
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@Shoop, My intention is not to make a new forum, Swedishchef.Lc
has done a decent job on this one. At the start of the websites
life I'd use this forum until I've developed the cms/league,
once those two are developed I'd of course like to develop a
forum to interlink with that so you only have to login once,
instead of twice. It would also mean that you could click on
peoples account names on the forum to view their bio page, then
you could navigate from there to view their team/clan.
@Amir, the only money I'd need to use is for the purchasing of
the domain name. I've already got hosting space(chatcraft.net is
still using it). I may need to purchase a different package
later on, but that will be my issue, not sheep tags. On
chatcraft.net I have also archived the old maverick forums.
However having said this, it costs me a lot of time. I don't
want to waste the amount of time that it would cost to port this
over.
@Shyamora, your help would be much appreciated should the
community want this implemented.
If you guys do the things I require, I'll do whatever is needed
for the community.
Just to list one more time what they are
A. All of you band behind one map creator and actively discuss
possible changes. The map creator doesn't have to implement your
change, the creator should only feel inspired by it. If the
creator does implement your idea count yourself lucky, don't
boycott etc... Give honest feedback not trolls.
B. All of you start to make teams of five, get more than just
one or two teams, create multiple teams and vs each other
nightly in a competitive state. Upload these replays onto this
forum, giving the results and make plans to vs each other again.
Try to get at least 8 teams together. Don't smurf and when you
create a team, make sure that you're all on team speak and you
are listening to each other.
C. Host the map on both reign of chaos and frozen throne and
make the game end after one round, get more people into the
community! If all of you go out and get two people each, this
community would be growing in no time! I had 50+ Aussies playing
during the week most nights before I left last time, if this
dumb Aussie can do it, then surely you intelligent
Americans/Europeans will be able to do tons better.
NOTE: You do not need to have 8 teams before I start working on
it, but you do need to have atleast 4 teams of five.
20 people actively playing isn't that hard. Even if it's StH
team one CsB Team one, CsB Team Two and Some Random mix.
If you are willing, I will also need someone who is good with
graphics, I do have people that are good with layouts and stuff,
but I'd want someone who is able to create really good pictures
to the quality of the dota pics. If you know anyone suggest them
here.
#Post#: 1722--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: Shyamora[SkS]
Date: October 2, 2013, 5:09 am
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We've got a SoR team one =)
I'm sure CsB can create a team or two, and some mixture of other
clans will work aswell =)
What about yourself Mike, are you joining us sometime soon, even
if it's only now and then?
#Post#: 1725--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advancement of St Community
DIR By: Alph4bet
Date: October 2, 2013, 8:39 am
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My priority at the moment is uni, the only reason I'm on st at
the moment is because of Adam. He's actually playing lol. I'm
going to try and get some old aussies back
deadly_sheep/phooey/arkSheep and see where i can take it from
there. But I wont be investing too much time into this, however
the making of the site I will invest time, provided the
community is serious.
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