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#Post#: 1675--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Chakra
Date: September 29, 2013, 7:25 pm
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OK, so for socioeconomic mobility between generations I get:
HTML http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Intergenerational_mobility_graph-1.jpg
Life expectancy rates show the US is behind OECD countries while
Iceland is greatly ahead, especially at birth (high infant
mortality in the US).
HTML http://i.imgur.com/XzdfFJu.png
Meanwhile health care costs are growing at faster rates (of
already much higher costs) in the US compared to OCED, and
more-so compared to Iceland.
HTML http://i.imgur.com/HipS8Ap.png
A lot more Icelandic children are enrolled into education than
Americans.
HTML http://i.imgur.com/OPtbinq.png
Poor people in Iceland have a ~70% chance of going to college
while it's only ~30% in America.
HTML http://i.imgur.com/suJ9HV6.png
Peacefulness isn't really even a comparison. Iceland ranks as
the most peaceful country in the world while the US is 99th.
This takes into account many factors: perceived criminality,
number of security officers & police, homicides, incarcerated
population, access to weapons, organized conflict, violent
demonstrations, violent crime, political instability, political
terror, weapon importations, terrorist activities, death from
conflicts, military expenditures, army size, UN peacekeeping
funding, nuclear/heavy weapons, displaced people, relations to
neighboring countries, and current conflicts.
HTML http://i.imgur.com/Jj5WQy3.png
On every measurement, Iceland ranks better than the US. To claim
the US is a better place to live than Iceland is to be
anti-number.
#Post#: 1677--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 29, 2013, 7:35 pm
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Socioeconomic mobility between generations (opportunity). - The
biggest gaps have been overcome through Americans, not people
from Iceland ^^. We also still gold that ability to this day.
If we keep going down the path we are going right now
economically we could lose that privilege :D. This alone makes
America > Iceland.
Access to healthcare. - We have access to healthcare AND
access to work to provide ourselves with healthcare. The people
that are out of work aren't trying hard enough to find it.
Access to quality education. - Got that. Individuals just need
to apply themselves to go to it and apply it.
Freedom from physical harm (including death). - We have the
right to bear arms, and those that brake the law must be
punished, therefore it isn't the US as a whole country that
isn't protecting us from physical harm, but the people
themselves are naively not protecting themselves.
Next.
#Post#: 1678--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Chakra
Date: September 29, 2013, 7:44 pm
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> Socioeconomic mobility between generations (opportunity). -
The biggest gaps have been overcome through Americans, not
people from Iceland ^^. We also still gold that ability to this
day. If we keep going down the path we are going right now
economically we could lose that privilege :D. This alone makes
America > Iceland.
--- End Quote ---
Zero evidence of this.
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> Access to healthcare. - We have access to healthcare AND
access to work to provide ourselves with healthcare. The people
that are out of work aren't trying hard enough to find it.
--- End Quote ---
Access includes how easy it is. Easier to get good healthcare in
Iceland than in the US.
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> Access to quality education. - Got that. Individuals just
need to apply themselves to go to it and apply it.
--- End Quote ---
Good education costs money. Good luck if you're poor!~~~~
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> Freedom from physical harm (including death). - We have the
right to bear arms, and those that brake the law must be
punished, therefore it isn't the US as a whole country that
isn't protecting us from physical harm, but the people
themselves are naively not protecting themselves.
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Cool in theory. In actuality you get shot a lot less in Iceland
than in the US.
Next.
#Post#: 1679--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 29, 2013, 7:52 pm
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lots of evidence. You just have to do some research. I don't
have to show you statistics to be right ^^
Access to healthcare is easy. Work for it.
Good education does cost money, so work for it.
Both the US and Iceland have the right to bare arms. Why do you
think Iceland is so safe? :D
The U.S. is just full of immoral people who commit crimes. If
the people of the US world strengthen their moral standards then
there would be less crime. Bringing up whether you are more
liable to be shot in America isn't relevant to the whole
country. It is only relevant to the areas of which it is
relevant.
NEXT.
#Post#: 1680--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Chakra
Date: September 29, 2013, 8:05 pm
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> lots of evidence. You just have to do some research. I don't
have to show you statistics to be right ^^
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I did some research, and the evidence is agaisnt you.
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> Access to healthcare is easy. Work for it.
>
> Good education does cost money, so work for it.
--- End Quote ---
So you agree there is greater access to healthcare and education
in Iceland. Thank you.
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> Both the US and Iceland have the right to bare arms. Why do
you think Iceland is so safe? :D
>
> The U.S. is just full of immoral people who commit crimes. If
the people of the US world strengthen their moral standards then
there would be less crime. Bringing up whether you are more
liable to be shot in America isn't relevant to the whole
country. It is only relevant to the areas of which it is
relevant.
--- End Quote ---
You said, "Americans are the best race thus far," not "Texans,"
or "Californians." The facts are simple: you are less likely to
get shot in Iceland. You seem to be arguing Icelandic people are
more moral, that's just a positive in my favor.
So far you are losing on socioeconomic mobility, have agreed
there is greater access to healthcare and education in Iceland,
and agreed that Icelandic people are more physically secure. Yet
you still argue the US is better why?
#Post#: 1682--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 29, 2013, 8:11 pm
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Hell no it isn't. America is still #1 if you want opportunity.
There are more poor to rich success stories coming out of USA
than Iceland :D
Greater access to healthcare in Iceland? Hell no lol. America
has the best medical facilities you just gotta work for it to
get inside of them. Quit being a lazy, chakra.
Americans ARE THE BEST RACE THUS FAR! We just need to arm
ourselves like Iceland does instead of being panzies. Americans
shouldn't be unarmed panzies!!! Morals of America are at an all
time low, but there are still good, hard working Americans like
me that are willing to educate those that don't understand how
acquiring healthcare, and benefits works.
#Post#: 1683--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Exa
Date: September 29, 2013, 8:14 pm
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Knocked out.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__uutzcQXc
#Post#: 1684--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Chakra
Date: September 29, 2013, 8:17 pm
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> Hell no it isn't. America is still #1 if you want
opportunity. There are more poor to rich success stories coming
out of USA than Iceland
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That's because America has a thousand times more people. Per
capita, however, Iceland has "more poor to rich success
stories."
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> Greater access to healthcare in Iceland? Hell no lol.
America has the best medical facilities you just gotta work for
it to get inside of them. Quit being a lazy, chakra.
--- End Quote ---
You apparently don't know what the word access means. We aren't
talking about "best healthcare facilities in the world," we're
talking about, "a means of approaching or entering a place" of
healthcare.
Healthcare costs are 52.27% less in Iceland than they are in the
US.
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> Americans ARE THE BEST RACE THUS FAR! We just need to arm
ourselves like Iceland does instead of being panzies. Americans
shouldn't be unarmed panzies!!!
--- End Quote ---
So you continue to agree Iceland does better on physical
security.
Iceland still beats the US on all four categories previously
agreed upon.
#Post#: 1685--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 29, 2013, 8:24 pm
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America isn't the greatest country anymore. Exas video moved me
deeply..
I still want to become a great elected official of the United
States and make it prosper though :D
#Post#: 1710--------------------------------------------------
Re: Americans are the best race thus far
DIR By: XXXandBEER
Date: October 1, 2013, 4:28 pm
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America is the best place because even though Chakra is American
he is still routing against it. We have the most broad ranged
group of citizens where half of them like Chakra could careless
about the country whereas the other half love the country. It is
quite an astounding country you don't get that kind of diversity
anywhere else.
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