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       #Post#: 1571--------------------------------------------------
       Re: League of Legends Vs. Dota 2
   DIR By: SHEePYTaGGeRNeP
       Date: September 26, 2013, 1:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chiefhero[sks ---
       > link=topic=136.msg1566#msg1566 date=1380215089]
       > just trying to explain how LoL can have a bigger playerbase
       without being a better game. i think someone mentioned LoL
       having a bigger playerbase than dota2 (assumably as an argument
       infavor for LoL).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       League of Legends 2012:
  HTML http://www.destructoid.com/league-of-legends-has-32-million-monthly-active-players-236618.phtml
       Dota 2 - 3 months ago:
  HTML http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1j6uyw/5_milliion_unique_dota_2_players/
       Speaks for itself doesnt it, lol.
       #Post#: 1574--------------------------------------------------
       Re: League of Legends Vs. Dota 2
   DIR By: Chiefhero[sks]
       Date: September 26, 2013, 3:44 pm
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       mappy, im not arguing that it isn't true, but that it doesn't
       make the game better (alternative explenation provided).
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       > On the Runes/Champions grinding thing. You said some people
       like to "grind" for "advantages", but I actually believe some
       people like to "grind" to actually earn something. In Dota 2
       there is nothing to play for. There is nothing you earn from
       winning. For me I do not care about this ****, but many people
       do like to "earn" something for playing.
       --- End Quote ---
       so once you gather the runes -> you've won LoL? no point in
       playing anymore? or how would this work exactly?
       point is that you can grind "unfair" advantages in LoL (extra
       movementspeed on your hero etc). you can play for money in
       dota2, you can play for collectable items, you can play for
       achievements, you can play to reach the top of the ranks (on
       third party sources), you can play to improve, or simply play to
       have fun/win games.
       playing for runes is like playing for maphack in sheeptag. once
       you've played 5000 games on CMK's bot, you're allowed to maphack
       (others aren't). thats principally what runes are, but ofcourse
       the advantage is much smaller. it's nasty. there are many things
       to play for and ''earn'' in both LoL and Dota2, grinding
       advantages is a different story. when comparing dota2 and LoL,
       the ability to ''buy/grind advantages" is a minuspoint to LoL in
       my eyes (and hopefully yours too).
       #Post#: 1577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: League of Legends Vs. Dota 2
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: September 26, 2013, 6:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chiefhero[sks ---
       > link=topic=136.msg1574#msg1574 date=1380228278]
       > you can play for money in dota2, you can play for collectable
       items, you can play for achievements, you can play to reach the
       top of the ranks (on third party sources), you can play to
       improve, or simply play to have fun/win games.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You can play LoL for all those reasons to. I do prefer Dota 2s
       mentality of giving everyone every Hero right from the start.
       The only problem with this is beginners are thrown into a Hero
       pool of over 100 and have no clue what to do I.E they might play
       a very advanced Hero on accident and dislike the game
       afterwards. This is awesome IMO get rid of the weak.
       Unfortunately in LoL, Riot likes to baby all the players and
       only let newbies pick from a pool of about 8 Champions. Overall
       Riot has the RP/IP system as a means of monetary gain and to be
       gentle to the retards.
       EDIT: I put some quotes from Amir on the League of Legends
       subreddit to see what they had to say about Runes/Champions
       making you better
  HTML http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1n7mm4/league_of_legends_paygrind_to_win/
       #Post#: 1581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: League of Legends Vs. Dota 2
   DIR By: Chiefhero[sks]
       Date: September 26, 2013, 9:53 pm
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       dota2 has a tutorial and recommends heroes for new players. LoL
       restricts you to 8-10 heroes per week even when uve played 10000
       games (as far as i know). LoL and DotA2 are similar, but LoL is
       worse at everything that's different about the games. i haven't
       heard 1 good reason for choosing LoL over dota2 yet.
       everyone on reddit agreed with me apart form a few braindead
       americans (despite the fact that you quoted me out of context of
       our debate instead of linking the whole shit). ive heard similar
       objections before. "everyone can get all the runes if they play
       alot!"   "you're just handicapping yourself by not paying for
       runes, not giving yourself and advantage by buying them!" etc.
       so, i don't want to keep this going for years, i've told
       everyone why i think dota2 is better than LoL. everything i've
       said appears to be correct. bring me reasons to why LoL is
       better than dota2 if you wanna continue debaten. ADIUSS.
       #Post#: 1583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: League of Legends Vs. Dota 2
   DIR By: XXXandBEER
       Date: September 26, 2013, 9:56 pm
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       What makes you think I am debating that LoL is better than Dota
       2? Almost everything I have said is me saying LoL sucks and Riot
       is a shit company, because it is. The debate is about why LoL
       has more players than Dota 2, but yeah I'm bored of this as
       well. That reddit thread was funny you are Rebelsmark no?
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