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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: September 8, 2013, 9:25 pm
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KK its pretty simple science guys..
Man and Women = Baby
Man and Man = Nothing
Being gay does nothing "nature wise" and is frowned on in most
societies (by frowned on i mean unequal laws, ect. marriage,
benefits.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: koala
Date: September 8, 2013, 10:23 pm
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I don't even? Give one REAL argument why people shouldn't ask
others about their sexuality if in case you were a homosexual
and wanted to find a partner? Of course it doesn't make sense
for a man to ask a woman if she's heterosexual.. because he
doesn't have to and can always readily assume that she is into
guys. Which isn't the same for homosexual males and females..
We understand that HaWkys but the fact is homosexuals do exist
whether they are born that way or not is irrelevant. There are
people that tend to dehumanize gays by arguing that it's 100%
pure choice which is kind of retarded. Shouldn't make any
difference when it comes to human rights and equality under the
law anyway.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 8, 2013, 11:44 pm
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We can tell whether someone is attracted to us or not by
practice. Therefore liberating us from having to shout our
orientation.
For one, sex isn't a subject of debate. It's an accepted
process. Pornography is legal on a massive scale of the earth
because most people accept sex as a pleasurable and helpful
thing. To ask me why you shouldn't call yourself a specific
orientation is to ask too much of me. I don't care about your
orientation because it doesn't directly affect me or my state of
being. It affects you. If you find your orientation
discriminated against then do what you must do to make it
acceptable. Shouting out your orientation proudly is just power
grabbing. It's as if you believe the other orientation has
power over you which is irrelevant because you're fully capable
of making yourself as powerful as you want.
if two individuals mate without ever discussing orientation,
which happens frequently, then it is possible for all
individuals to do the same with the only restraints being
personal choice.
You're looking at this topic at an enclosed view. You need to
look at your orientation as the same as mine and then you will
understand where I'm coming from. Look at it as mere sex and
not specific orientation.
I don't talk publicly about my relations with women but for an
example and anonymity I did so, and I have also made a recent
promise to not have sex anymore until I'm married.
Human beings are fully capable of finding mates without
expressing their orientation orally. There are more positive
methods of doing so.
Ex. I had a man compliment my shirt, my physique, and my taste
of sports at the bar and then at the after party he wanted to be
near me and at the end of the night we hugged even though I
signaled to shake hands and I walked away with no remorse nor
thinking about what happened. I was ready to go smoke with my
amigos.
Sculpt your body and refine your personality to attract mates.
I don't have to tell you this because you instinctively want to.
People that are open about their sexuality are awkward people to
talk to. IDC if you jizzed on their belly. Who you mate with
doesn't make me jizz unless your mate also mates with me.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: koala
Date: September 8, 2013, 11:59 pm
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You still haven't answered why it's so important to not discuss
orientation or sexuality between two possibly interested parties
especially when it can help faciliate the relationship. Why do
you value ambiguity so highly? Obviously heterosexual is the
norm... but what about homosexuals? Why is it in your book
homosexuals shouldn't EXPLICITLY ask someone they are interested
in? It's called SCREENING for a reason males do it with women as
well if you are trying to find someone that is DTF you will be
more sexually aggressive and push the issue if she isn't
interested you can find another girl. There is also a big
difference with between "open" and comfortable with your
sexuality. That doesn't mean bragging about all your sexual
exploits to anyone that will listen. Like Cele and Chakra have
been saying it saves a fucking TON of guess work and does take
someone comfortable in their sexuality to ask other people
that's how you get your needs met.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Chakra
Date: September 9, 2013, 1:35 am
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--- Quote ---
> Shouting out your orientation proudly is just power grabbing.
It's as if you believe the other orientation has power over you
which is irrelevant because you're fully capable of making
yourself as powerful as you want.
--- End Quote ---
I can argue the same thing with nearly any social label.
Religion, political ideology, views on abortion, views on eating
babies, eating broccoli, way the toilet paper should face, etc.
Tolli, you come from a purely heterosexual normative paradigm.
Chances are when you are looking for a mate, you look at woman
and don't think, "She's probably a lesbian, but I'll try it
anyways." Realize that more than 90% of my visually possible
mates aren't actually possible mates, while 90% of yours ARE.
This is BEFORE issues of their attraction to you.
But this is still irrelevant. What is wrong with people
declaring their sexuality openly? Are gays making a power grab?
Are we oppressing all the straight people by wearing rainbow
bracelets and setting our Facebook interests to the same thing
as our gender?
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 9, 2013, 1:52 am
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It isn't important to to discuss orientation because we are
capable of communing.
You think we are incapable of communing to find a mate?
All I'm saying is don't tell me you're orientation unless I ask
you to. If you want to try to mate with me then come get it.
Spit all the game you want, but you're not sodomizing Tollison.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: September 9, 2013, 2:47 am
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So what you're suggesting is that saying my orientation before
being asked is offensive, because we should be able to tell
which people are gay and straight just by instinctively knowing.
Kind of dumb lol.
#Post#: 1151--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Perry_Hewbes
Date: September 9, 2013, 5:03 am
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Tolli. I have a questions for you...
If an extremely obviously gay guy came up to you and started
hitting on you would you just tell him you are straight or try
as hard as possible to give him the same 'signals' you would
give a woman you weren't interested in?
also, if you knew 9 out of every 10 women who you were
interested in were lesbians, would you not ask any of them their
orientation or tell them yours?
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 9, 2013, 1:45 pm
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It's offensive in nature. If it was defensive then staying
quiet about it would be offensive.
Perry, I would, and do, actively give off the same signals to
everyone. I'm willing to have strong relationships with
everyone. So far all of my gay peers haven't felt me up except
my back. They are huggers ^^. Women I'm not interested in
won't be interested in me. It just happens as so. I treat
others as I want to be treated therefore everything just falls
into place for me.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: September 9, 2013, 3:19 pm
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Why and how is it offensive to ask what gender one prefers,
especially if you're interested in that person, or if someone
asks you because they're interested in you O.o
I wouldn't find that offensive at all...
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