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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: HaWkys
Date: September 6, 2013, 9:39 pm
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Gays in the military? have fun sleepin in ur bunk knowin the guy
in the bunk below u is jerkin off to u ^^ enjoy...
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 8, 2013, 2:22 am
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Not asking nor telling your sexuality to people would imply that
we are capable of finding a potential mate without having to
express our sexuality directly. For Ex. If you were in a room
with 2 guys and 2 girls and you notice signs of attraction, such
as smiling or winking, by any of them you are able to further
express your sexuality indirectly to them by giving attraction
responses. Body language exists and can be read but it takes
experience to see it.
I personally know when someone is attracted to me. I just feel
it. I'm able to read how people feel directly because I'm able
to read body language indirectly.
It's natural for there to be gay people therefore they deserve
equal rights. They should equally be able to mate with a man as
a man can mate with a woman without obstacles.
Therefore let's not leave it up to the government to govern how
people feel about homosexuality and instead focus on protecting
everyone as one nation instead of multiple so they may mate with
their potential partners.
Homosexuals are very charming. I find them very easy and
enjoyable to be around, but not all are the same. Let's protect
them.
The government shouldn't give you money or tax brakes just
because you're married or have kids. Those are personal
decisions and there should be 100% accountability towards those
that choose those options.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Chakra
Date: September 8, 2013, 4:56 pm
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So what's the reason for not being explicit about our
orientation?
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 8, 2013, 4:59 pm
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To keep orientation unbiased.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: September 8, 2013, 5:18 pm
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That doesn't really make sense tollison and it doesn't answer
his question.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Chakra
Date: September 8, 2013, 5:39 pm
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Are you saying that if we never discuss orientation in public,
people won't be discriminated for it? That's a noble goal, and I
don't want to argue the merits of the system, but it has one
fatal flaw:
Do you deny that people will simply assume orientation if it
isn't told?
You yourself said:
--- Quote ---
> Body language exists and can be read but it takes experience
to see it.
>
> I personally know when someone is attracted to me. I just
feel it. I'm able to read how people feel directly because I'm
able to read body language indirectly.
--- End Quote ---
Is this not just assuming/guessing orientation? Do you think it
is better for people to assume/guess orientation than to know?
Not talking about it is as turd as the "don't say gay," laws.
Just as we should openly talk about racism, religion, etc, we
should definitely talk about orientation.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 8, 2013, 5:50 pm
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I don't deny that people will assume for they don't understand
how to read people.
It isn't guessing to read body and tone language. People move
and position themselves according to the situation. People also
use certain tones to express how they feel at the moment.
Those that assume will be declined and learn how to become more
efficient in acquiring a mate.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Chakra
Date: September 8, 2013, 6:34 pm
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It doesn't matter. You aren't answering the question.
--- Quote ---
> So what's the reason for not being explicit about our
orientation?
--- End Quote ---
You said:
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> To keep orientation unbiased.
--- End Quote ---
But then you said:
--- Quote ---
> Body language exists and can be read but it takes experience
to see it.
>
> I personally know when someone is attracted to me. I just
feel it. I'm able to read how people feel directly because I'm
able to read body language indirectly.
--- End Quote ---
So what is your motivation for people not being explicit with
their orientation? You want homosexuals to be mistaken for
heterosexuals and heterosexuals mistaken for homosexuals?
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Tollison
Date: September 8, 2013, 7:36 pm
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Humans are capable of intuitively finding a mate without having
to call themselves a specific orientation. I've been successful
multiple times finding a one night stand and at no time did I
have to ask if they were straight. I've been successful at
wooing women without even trying. I had one ask me on FB to
date her and it was purely by recommendation by her friend. I
know, and most humans, are capable of knowing how someone feels
about us. We aren't unconscious of feelings.
Yes I do want them to be mistaken. Life is about cause and
effect. You must do something to receive an effect. You don't
have to call yourself anything unless asked of because you're
capable of finding a mate through your own knowledge of common
human activity. It is no ones responsibility to mate with you
but yourself. You may argue that calling yourself something
specific helps you find one which is true, but it is also true
that if you understand why people do what they do you're capable
of finding a mate without expressing your orientation by
language.
Let me share a story of how I acquired my last woman. We were
at her house with 5 other friends on the porch and it was 4 AM.
I had arrived with two of my friends and when she saw me she
pursued me by raising her tone in a polite way of better quality
then how she greeted any of my friends. We're all on the porch
smoking and drinking and while I'm actively watching and
listening to my friends I can see her look at me through my
peripheral vision. Nothing happened that night. I gave all the
women hugs, men handshakes. TWO WEEKS LATER I felt the urge to
bust a nut so I MSG her on FB if we can get together that night.
She asked me how I knew she was interested in me and I told
her, "I just knew."
If I am capable of achieving that then you are too because we
are both human and can consciously know what happens around us
and are both capable of making rational decisions.
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Re: Sexuality
DIR By: Celestial_One
Date: September 8, 2013, 8:28 pm
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Congrats tolli, you were able to get a girl without her asking
if you were straight. Kudos. Completely irrelevant though.
Here is the question
"Why should homosexuals and heterosexuals keep their orientation
quiet"
You haven't answered this. You've just said "They can tell with
practice".
I have news! You will not always be able to tell who is straight
and gay just by meeting them and practicing this weird concept
of don't ask don't tell.
Mine and chakra's stance = "Asking orientation is completely
okay, because it avoids awkward situations by getting right to
the point." You're ultimately saying "guessing is better than
simple communication". Some crazy stance you hold honestly lol.
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