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Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: Tom
Date: June 23, 2018, 3:58 am
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Picked up one of these yesterday, cheap on gumtree!
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Having never lit one, I was surprised at this scenario; I'm no
expert but was quite sure the flame should be the other side of
the glass:
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So naturally I had to take it apart.... lol...
Some tinkering, O-rings and mouthfuls of petrol later,
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Great success!
I'm surprised at how bright it is, even after damaging one of
the mantles whilst reassembling it!
Celbrt
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Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: RMS
Date: June 23, 2018, 4:39 pm
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> I'm surprised at how bright it is, even after damaging one of
the mantles whilst reassembling it!
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Well done lkebtn
Be careful running it with a damaged mantle though - the hot jet
from the hole in the mantle can cause the glass to crack,
usually when it's cooling down after switching off.
I've seen that more than once now, on one of mine and a couple
of others.
Cheers,
Robin.
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Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: mickandpaula101
Date: June 24, 2018, 1:23 am
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these mantles still available?was given a lamp same as this a
few years ago with a damaged mantle but never got around to
fixing it.
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Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: Tom
Date: June 24, 2018, 3:27 am
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Ah thanks Robin I didn't know that, I think I was lucky as the
hole is facing inwards. phew!
Yeah Mick you can get them from Go Outdoors (£8 for three! fp1)
or there are lots on ebay... A guy in work said the cheap ones
are just as good so despite my doubts i'm trying ten for £2.63
lol
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#Post#: 59325--------------------------------------------------
Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: Monkay
Date: August 27, 2018, 4:03 pm
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Looks like a 285 Coleman? These require a ‘sock’ style mantle
rather than the more traditional round type mantle as the round
mantles would interfere with the vapouriser / generator, I do
use the round mantles for testing as they are generally far
cheaper than the Coleman originals. The correct mantle would be
a Coleman #21 string tie mantle, cheaper ones may be available
but if they were genuine Coleman mantles I’d expect them to be
around £2 each.
Top tip is run it on panel wipe, can’t remember which one but
I’ll look into it for you. It is more expensive than petrol
however it is chepaer than Coleman fuel, it burns brighter,
whiter, doesn’t have the yellowish hue of petrol and as it is
cleaner it doesn’t gunk up the generator, I had a ‘Mil-Spec
Coleman’ at the pit and it burned as white as a paraffin
lantern.
Another tip is don’t store fuel in it when not in use, the
recommended is over a week as the tanks are steel on these and
are prone to rusting on the inside if left with fuel over a long
period, I normally empty them out and leave the fuel cap off the
valve fully open when not in use for a while.
These shouldn’t really be called Tilley lanterns as Tilley is a
seperate brand of lantern all together, however here in Blighty
we seem to call all camping Lanterns ‘Tilleys’, which is a
mahoosive PITA when people are buying spares from you and they
have no clue of what they have - it’s a bit like all vacuum
cleaners seem to be now known as hoovers.
--- Quote from: mickandpaula101 link ---
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> these mantles still available?was given a lamp same as this a
few years ago with a damaged mantle but never got around to
fixing it.
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Let me know which lamp you have, put some pictures up or
soemthong like that and I’ll try and help you out.
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Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: mistericeman
Date: August 27, 2018, 4:44 pm
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Tilley lamps are sooooo yesterday compared to petrol Colemans...
Colemans are less pfaff to light and take far far less looking
after than parrafin Tilley types.
Our northstar even has push button ignition and no need for
meths (well worth removing the ignitor pack and storing
somewhere dry if not using it for a while)
Panel wipe is good though unleaded is fine as long as you keep
them (cookers as well as lanterns) running hot for long enough.
In fairness I strip and service ours once a season to keep them
on top form.
They crop up for peanuts on gumtree/schpock/ebay for peanuts if
you keep your eyes open.
Any spares you buy... Mantles/pumps/vaporiser assemblies etc...
Make sure they are gen Coleman as copies are frankly dog shit.
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Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: Monkay
Date: August 27, 2018, 5:45 pm
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I like the Northstar, it’s a nice lantern but can be a bit
pricey and they are a doddle to light however if buying second
hand make sure that the ignitor is present and working otherwise
it is around £20 to replace.
All I never really go for the Tilley branded lanterns, generally
my go to lanterns are (in the following order)
Petromax 829, gives loads of light and with the rapid pre-heater
means not faffing with a meths pre heater - if buying one go for
a pre 1990 one as they are known to be a lot better quality -
currently looking for a Bundeswehr model to add to the
collection.
Milspec Coleman, it’s Walty and nice. The funnel and cap are
chained to the lamp so no loosing them and there is a spares
compartment on the lantern too so no searching for mantles or
other stuff.
Coleman 201, nice little lamp and one of the few Colemans that
runs on Paraffin (or Kerosene as it’s an American lamp)
Vapalux 320 - British military issue paraffin lamp, don’t really
need to say anymore!
Only thing I would say about Colemans is that sometime the
spares can be pricey as you may not be able to get them in the
UK, should be OK with the Northstar and other recent models
(like that above) though I do have a few older models that are
out of service due to lack of spares in the UK and I’m currently
putting an order together with Old Coleman Spares - I suppose
you could say that about a lot of obsolete stuff
#Post#: 59330--------------------------------------------------
Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: Tom
Date: August 28, 2018, 3:57 am
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Thanks for all the info!
Yes, I have since found 4 mantles for £6.45,
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I tried cheap copies but found the originals to be far better -
the current pair i've got fitted have lasted for quite a while
now :Dancing-Chilli1group:
I find that mine doesn't like running on paraffin and petrol at
the same time, lol. I may try panel wipe but seems nice and
bright on unleaded as Ian says!
Has anyone tried ethanol or IPA (isopropyl alchohol, not beer)?
I can get unlimited supplies of those.... but i'd imagine they
are far too thin and would just turn into a massive flare
cheers
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Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: hippydave
Date: August 28, 2018, 6:41 am
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Be careful what you run it on as differing fluids have different
burn temps and can cause damage to the vapouriser and go bang.
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Re: Coleman / Tilley Lamp
DIR By: Monkay
Date: August 29, 2018, 7:58 am
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> Be careful what you run it on as differing fluids have
different burn temps and can cause damage to the vapouriser and
go bang.
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Yes you're right and these ones should only be run on Petrol or
Coleman fuel, I find it annoying that Coleman call these dual
fuel lanterns and what they actually mean is it can be ran on
Coleman Fuel or Unleaded, I suppose that is marketing for you.
As far as I am aware Coleman fuel is Naptha, which is what the
panel wipe I am using is.
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> Yes, I have since found 4 mantles for £6.45,
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That's a good price and clip on too
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> I find that mine doesn't like running on paraffin and petrol
at the same time, lol. I may try panel wipe but seems nice and
bright on unleaded as Ian says!
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I'm pretty sure these are not meant to run on paraffin, but I
may be wrong.... If you're happy with unleaded, go with that.
It's easier to get, half the price of panel wipe and about the
fifth of the price of Coleman fuel, a replacement generator for
these is roughly around £20 so the worst case scenario if it did
block it up, I would have thought it would be a long time in
getting there. The other alternative would be run it on
something else every now and again just to clean out all the
impurity build up from unleaded. However that all said, I
understand what Ian is saying earlier and they just might not be
running them long enough, I generally run mine for at least 3 -
4 hours at time.
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> Has anyone tried ethanol or IPA (isopropyl alchohol, not
beer)? I can get unlimited supplies of those.... but i'd imagine
they are far too thin and would just turn into a massive flare
>
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Not heard of that, just had a google and come up with this
thread
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