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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: August 21, 2013, 2:20 pm
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danger in rushing FBS
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We can learn a lot from keep studying what Umass is doing and
not make the same mistakes. Playing far from campus to meet FBS
attendance requirement is really hurting them.
New England in general not a college football followers. There
are only two notable FBS in the region UConn and BC. Even they
are not widely followed and not powerhouse in college football.
We have to make sure we dont turn into Buffalo or Umass if ever
decide to play FBS.
ODU on the other hand transitioned so quickly that its
remarkable. But one thing they had on there side is that the
area had no pro sports or college football. Now they are
expanding their stadium to 30k capacity!
We need to wait and see what Delaware does. They have the
support and facilities for FBS move but will they? Are they
ready to trade from being FCS power to FBS mediocre?
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 21, 2013, 2:45 pm
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ibosbu.. The problem with SB Football is simple. Attendance. SB
is not even close to considering a move to the FBS unless they
get the Attendance up to a max house, and thats only around
10,000. 15,000 is the ultimate minimum attendance the NCAA is
looking for to be considered a candidate for an FBS member. We
just arent there yet .. Lets see how this year pans out with the
move to the CAA. Hopefully we can pack the house on every home
game ..
Does anyone know how many fans on average went to Hofstra home
games.??? That should be a gauge on how many fans we get for
this year. I know one thing.. I recruited 13 family members this
season to buy season tickets to Football !!!!!!
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: August 21, 2013, 3:21 pm
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13 season tickets! :) amazing
And yes agree attendance is the biggest issue. But we need at
least 15k sell out few seasons before moving to FBS. Even if the
minimum is 10k, that wont give us profit with additional cost at
FBS level to sustain the program.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: August 21, 2013, 4:18 pm
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agreed with you guys, and ill state that you are the solution to
the problem- fans who attend games AND get others involved.
with that said, the low attendance is surely a downer, BUT,
looking at where its come from in the 10 years alone is very
encouraging. add in the stadium, new conference, better
football, exciting players, high profile transfers, better
coaching staff, new facilities, media deals, and of course no
Hofstra, our attendance will only go UP UP AND UP!!!
GO SB!!!
#Post#: 7509--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: RecoveringHillbilly
Date: August 21, 2013, 7:01 pm
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Hofstra was very average for how well they performed most
seasons. Mostly mid-pack among FCS schools in attendance:
HTML http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Stats/Football/Attendance/
HTML http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Stats/Football/Attendance/
Since you've already reached and surpassed Hofstra's former
averages, and had a contest with 10K+, you can look beyond that
comparison. If you look to UB's 1-AA years you're ahead in many
ways but behind in attendance and SOS. UB went from D-3 in 1992
to 1-AA in '93, straight to playing the likes of Maine, YSU,
JMU, and Ill St. The results were often rough but we had great
crowds of 10k-12K for many games. We then had over 15k season
tickets sold for our final 1-AA season. The jump to CAA
opponents will tell a lot about your fan base.
You have gone a proper steady route to grow toward the CAA and
beyond. Once UB succeeded in leading the push to overturn the
SUNY scholarship ban the stated goal was returning to the
highest level of football. That cost us in football, where the
old Yankee and Gateway leagues would not take us. And in other
sports the then NAC (now AE) always rejected our applications.
By '95 the MAC happened to be led by a commish who was a former
UB FB assistant and they unanimous accepted us. Going from the
Mid-Con to the MAC in basketball was tough enough but FBS was a
big challenge that took us many years of sorting out the proper
AD and coaching. We were barely mid-level FCS in talent those
first few years and it took hiring Warde Manuel as AD and Turner
Gill to finally develop a culture of success.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 22, 2013, 7:38 am
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For all of those statistic buffs out there..
HTML http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/08/22/in-fcs-huddle-2013-caa-football-preview/
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 22, 2013, 7:44 am
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Thanks for the info RecoveringHillBilly.. It does appear SB is a
step ahead of Hofstra in the attendance dept at this stage. This
year is a transition year for SB Football and not a minute too
soon..
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: August 22, 2013, 12:07 pm
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This is Miguels time to shine. He has to give them everything
he's got this weekend, #3 pre season game, if he wants to make
the roster ~~
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: sbugold
Date: December 13, 2013, 4:21 pm
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--- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
>
> 13 season tickets! :) amazing
>
> But we need at least 15k sell out few seasons before moving to
FBS. Even if the minimum is 10k, that wont give us profit with
additional cost at FBS level to sustain the program.
>
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This is a true cautionary tale for anyone supporting the idea of
SBU D-1 football for anytime in the near future. I truly
believe that the CAA (assuming it doesn't implode, which I
rteally don't think will happen) is a great place for SBU to be.
They are likely to bring their fans much competitive and
winning football for the foreseeable future. I's hate to see
them get greedy and go the way of UMASS!!
#Post#: 8924--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: December 13, 2013, 4:59 pm
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Heck, we might see UMASS applying to drop back down to FCS level
if they cant get any more traction going at the FBS level. CAA
is a good place to be. look at two teams right now in the
Quarter finals for the FCS championship. that will be us next
year. I'm very optimistic.
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