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       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: DCwolf
       Date: August 7, 2017, 12:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
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       > [quote author=sbufan link=topic=98.msg18783#msg18783
       date=1502117883]
       > The Brookland guys are creating a podcast. You can listen to
       the first episode here
  HTML https://soundcloud.com/brookland-907557196
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       --- End Quote ---
       Adam is the face of news and information out of SB athletics..I
       follow him on Twitter. I suggest you guys do the same.
       [/quote]
       Hey thanks y'all! This is a work in progress, but what I can
       promise is week-over-week improvement 😂 Next week's
       episode is going to tackle football's recent recruiting
       renaissance, but always eager to hear suggestions for future
       episodes!
       #Post#: 18797--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: August 7, 2017, 4:46 pm
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       i have some feedback... first off you guys are a credit to the U
       and do great work, i've followed your site over the years.
       i think the podcast was great.  i should say i dont do podcasts
       so i know nothing.  im not a millennial (but im married to
       one!).
       -maybe make it a bit shorter?
       -some guests so youre not just talking one-way?
       -maybe try the wUSB guys they are a treasure trove of
       information and can chat for hours
       -consider breaking each podcast into one sport only (or, give a
       time breakdown of each subject)
       -interview coaches?  asst coaches?  players?  recruits?  alums?
       keep on doing what youre doing.  we need more fans like you.  GO
       SB
       #Post#: 18800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: August 7, 2017, 7:25 pm
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       The Pod Cast was really good plenty of useful  information.
       Good job !
       #Post#: 20154--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: iBOsbu
       Date: November 20, 2017, 10:40 pm
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       Sometimes I wonder what if Hofstra didn’t drop football. Would
       that have been good for Stony Brook in the long run? Sure we
       benefited short term by the transfers, but I would have loved to
       play them yearly in CAA. There would have been a Nassau/Suffolk
       rivalry game. Would have created more buzz in Long Island. On
       the other hand may be we would be fighting for the same
       recruits. May be we won’t even be in CAA because they would have
       blocked us like they did for all sports!  ::)
       #Post#: 20156--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
       Date: November 20, 2017, 11:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
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       > Sometimes I wonder what if Hofstra didn’t drop football. Would
       that have been good for Stony Brook in the long run? Sure we
       benefited short term by the transfers, but I would have loved to
       play them yearly in CAA. There would have been a Nassau/Suffolk
       rivalry game. Would have created more buzz in Long Island. On
       the other hand may be we would be fighting for the same
       recruits. May be we won’t even be in CAA because they would have
       blocked us like they did for all sports!  ::)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Interesting scenario to ponder. I also don't know if we make the
       playoffs in 11 and 12 without that talent bump. It is good to
       have a rivalry to drive fan interest and support within the
       state though. Albany hasn't quite been cutting it and we're in a
       different sub-division to UB. Hofstra would have tried to block
       us and Albany, but I don't know if they'd had been as successful
       for CAAF. Hofstra being a private vs us being public, I think
       the rivalry would have helped, but being totally different
       institutions all together, I think we'd have been just fine from
       a recruiting standpoint. We're not any less of what we are if
       they still have football. We'd still have the facilities, the
       budget, AAU membership, etc.
       #Post#: 20157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: iBOsbu
       Date: November 21, 2017, 8:09 am
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       I like the 4 home-home games scheduled with Fordham next 4
       year’s. May be they can provide a new NYC/LI rivalry spark. May
       be lol.
       I think Fordham wants to improve but stuck in Patriot League.
       Patriot League as a whole needs to make a decision. They need to
       commit to either fully follow their role model Ivy League or be
       fully competitive. They are in between and it’s not helping
       them. Either drop scholarships and be like Ivy, or add
       red-shirting and be like CAA. Most of them have pretty good
       facilities for FCS standard. Or may be Fordham can get into CAA
       if JMU ever leaves.
       #Post#: 20159--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: newfan
       Date: November 21, 2017, 9:02 am
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       --- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
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       > Either drop scholarships and be like Ivy, or add red-shirting
       and be like CAA. Most of them have pretty good facilities for
       FCS standard. Or may be Fordham can get into CAA if JMU ever
       leaves.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am pretty certain the PL does have red shirting...for example
       I know Holy Cross' QB is a 5th year senior and thanks to being
       redshirted was able to be the rare (or maybe only) 4 year
       football captain.
       #Post#: 20160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
       Date: November 21, 2017, 9:03 am
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       --- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
       >
       > I like the 4 home-home games scheduled with Fordham next 4
       year’s. May be they can provide a new NYC/LI rivalry spark. May
       be lol.
       >
       > I think Fordham wants to improve but stuck in Patriot League.
       Patriot League as a whole needs to make a decision. They need to
       commit to either fully follow their role model Ivy League or be
       fully competitive. They are in between and it’s not helping
       them. Either drop scholarships and be like Ivy, or add
       red-shirting and be like CAA. Most of them have pretty good
       facilities for FCS standard. Or may be Fordham can get into CAA
       if JMU ever leaves.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Fordham is a potential add if JMU, or any other programs leave.
       Fordham
       Monmouth
       Howard
       Hampton
       CCSU
       Youngstown St.
       Robert Morris
       Kennesaw St.
       could all be backfills if 1-3 teams leave in no particular
       order. All could be great additions, but none are worth
       proactively expanding for.  JMU will be the next team out the
       door and then we'll see. Delaware is likely to follow if JMU
       goes. Hopefully by then we're not far from an FBS invite either.
       A pretty attractive conference of east coast G5 schools could be
       made if the AAC gets raided by the Big 12 and implodes during
       the next great realignment shuffle.
       #Post#: 20161--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: iBOsbu
       Date: November 21, 2017, 9:13 am
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       --- Quote from: newfan link ---
       >
       > [quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=98.msg20157#msg20157
       date=1511273373]
       > Either drop scholarships and be like Ivy, or add red-shirting
       and be like CAA. Most of them have pretty good facilities for
       FCS standard. Or may be Fordham can get into CAA if JMU ever
       leaves.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am pretty certain the PL does have red shirting...for example
       I know Holy Cross' QB is a 5th year senior and thanks to being
       redshirted was able to be the rare (or maybe only) 4 year
       football captain.
       [/quote]
       PL only allows medical redshirting if I am not mistaken. May be
       they changed the rule recently.
       #Post#: 20162--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: iBOsbu
       Date: November 21, 2017, 9:26 am
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       --- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
       >
       > [quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=98.msg20157#msg20157
       date=1511273373]
       > I like the 4 home-home games scheduled with Fordham next 4
       year’s. May be they can provide a new NYC/LI rivalry
       spark. May be lol.
       >
       > I think Fordham wants to improve but stuck in Patriot League.
       Patriot League as a whole needs to make a decision. They need to
       commit to either fully follow their role model Ivy League or be
       fully competitive. They are in between and it’s not
       helping them. Either drop scholarships and be like Ivy, or add
       red-shirting and be like CAA. Most of them have pretty good
       facilities for FCS standard. Or may be Fordham can get into CAA
       if JMU ever leaves.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Fordham is a potential add if JMU, or any other programs leave.
       Fordham
       Monmouth
       Howard
       Hampton
       CCSU
       Youngstown St.
       Robert Morris
       Kennesaw St.
       could all be backfills if 1-3 teams leave in no particular
       order. All could be great additions, but none are worth
       proactively expanding for.  JMU will be the next team out the
       door and then we'll see. Delaware is likely to follow if JMU
       goes. Hopefully by then we're not far from an FBS invite either.
       A pretty attractive conference of east coast G5 schools could be
       made if the AAC gets raided by the Big 12 and implodes during
       the next great realignment shuffle.
       [/quote]
       Besides Fordham and Youngstown, none of the rest really excite
       me. Even these two won’t make up for the loss of JMU and
       Delaware.
       JMU has been FBS ready. But they don’t want go to Sunbelt
       which has no peer school.. wisely. Delaware will be starting to
       renovate and upgrade their stadium soon. I think they both want
       to get in AAC or otherwise will stay at FCS. But you are right
       though, no change will happen until Big 12 adds more. And Big 12
       will add more because need a real conference title game... not
       the fake title game they are starting this year.
       I just hope we continue to win and make buzz. And be ready when
       the right opportunity comes along. We don’t need real 15k
       attendance for FBS invite. Coastal is a prime example. As you
       mentioned earlier we have the facilities, budget, and prestige.
       I love what we are doing now in CAA. And keep working hard to be
       a better candidate than JMU and Delaware when AAC eventually
       comes calling in 5/6 years. I would decline any invite from
       sunbelt or cusa like JMU and wait for AAC. I am not even
       interested in MAC anymore. CAA>MAC in my opinion. Peer schools.
       Relatable. Rather than Akron or Ball state. Even presence of
       Buffalo doesn’t entice me.
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