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       #Post#: 18693--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
       Date: July 19, 2017, 12:16 am
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       --- Quote from: Seawolf97 link ---
       >
       > I  want to  see how our new seats fill out for home games this
       year .I'm  sure we sellout for homecoming but after that it
       could go down  hill again.   If we can fill  10k seats and make
       basketball do the same in our arena we are in good shape.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We didn't have a problem in 2012-2014 when we were good and/or
       had some hype behind our program. 2014 even had a couple games
       above 10k. Now that we've been a doormat for a couple years
       people don't care anymore. We beat the #2 team at home last year
       and it was the least attended game of the year. Even homecoming
       looked empty last year. Priore could damn near kill this program
       if we can't finish with a decent record this year and build up
       some hype.
       #Post#: 18694--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: July 19, 2017, 10:28 am
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       --- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=98.msg18692#msg18692
       date=1500402465]
       > I  want to  see how our new seats fill out for home games this
       year .I'm  sure we sellout for homecoming but after that it
       could go down  hill again.   If we can fill  10k seats and make
       basketball do the same in our arena we are in good shape.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We didn't have a problem in 2012-2014 when we were good and/or
       had some hype behind our program. 2014 even had a couple games
       above 10k. Now that we've been a doormat for a couple years
       people don't care anymore. We beat the #2 team at home last year
       and it was the least attended game of the year. Even homecoming
       looked empty last year. Priore could damn near kill this program
       if we can't finish with a decent record this year and build up
       some hype.
       [/quote]
       I am curious to see where the CAA ranks us this year. I say 2nd
       from last place, right behind RI and I hope I am dead wrong but
       this is where I think we belong. Maybe the Polls see something
       else with this team this year... This week started the FCS
       conference rankings..
       #Post#: 18697--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
       Date: July 19, 2017, 1:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
       >
       > [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=98.msg18693#msg18693
       date=1500441402]
       > [quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=98.msg18692#msg18692
       date=1500402465]
       > I  want to  see how our new seats fill out for home games this
       year .I'm  sure we sellout for homecoming but after that it
       could go down  hill again.   If we can fill  10k seats and make
       basketball do the same in our arena we are in good shape.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We didn't have a problem in 2012-2014 when we were good and/or
       had some hype behind our program. 2014 even had a couple games
       above 10k. Now that we've been a doormat for a couple years
       people don't care anymore. We beat the #2 team at home last year
       and it was the least attended game of the year. Even homecoming
       looked empty last year. Priore could damn near kill this program
       if we can't finish with a decent record this year and build up
       some hype.
       [/quote]
       I am curious to see where the CAA ranks us this year. I say 2nd
       from last place, right behind RI and I hope I am dead wrong but
       this is where I think we belong. Maybe the Polls see something
       else with this team this year... This week started the FCS
       conference rankings..
       [/quote]
       Hemphill was the only reason we haven't gone 1-10 the past three
       seasons, so with him gone, we very likely could be predicted
       last in the conference.
       We'll probably beat Wagner, but the rest are toss-ups honestly.
       I'm sticking with my 3-8 prediction. I haven't seen Fields play
       in an actual game yet though so maybe by some miracle he bails
       us out and we finish 5-6 again.
       #Post#: 18698--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: July 19, 2017, 1:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=98.msg18694#msg18694
       date=1500478104]
       > [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=98.msg18693#msg18693
       date=1500441402]
       > [quote author=Seawolf97 link=topic=98.msg18692#msg18692
       date=1500402465]
       > I  want to  see how our new seats fill out for home games this
       year .I'm  sure we sellout for homecoming but after that it
       could go down  hill again.   If we can fill  10k seats and make
       basketball do the same in our arena we are in good shape.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We didn't have a problem in 2012-2014 when we were good and/or
       had some hype behind our program. 2014 even had a couple games
       above 10k. Now that we've been a doormat for a couple years
       people don't care anymore. We beat the #2 team at home last year
       and it was the least attended game of the year. Even homecoming
       looked empty last year. Priore could damn near kill this program
       if we can't finish with a decent record this year and build up
       some hype.
       [/quote]
       I am curious to see where the CAA ranks us this year. I say 2nd
       from last place, right behind RI and I hope I am dead wrong but
       this is where I think we belong. Maybe the Polls see something
       else with this team this year... This week started the FCS
       conference rankings..
       [/quote]
       Hemphill was the only reason we haven't gone 1-10 the past three
       seasons, so with him gone, we very likely could be predicted
       last in the conference.
       We'll probably beat Wagner, but the rest are toss-ups honestly.
       I'm sticking with my 3-8 prediction. I haven't seen Fields play
       in an actual game yet though so maybe by some miracle he bails
       us out and we finish 5-6 again.
       [/quote]
       I agree wholeheartedly. Losing Hemp was a dagger. Don't be
       surprised if Carbone is our starter again because of Fields
       inexperience. If this is the case then coach P needs to be let
       go after this season. That simply tells me know Q wants to come
       to SB to play...
       #Post#: 18699--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Campi47
       Date: July 19, 2017, 2:24 pm
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       Street & Smith one of the most respected magazines in the
       country ranks us 9th
       Carbone is going be the starting QB and Fields will get playing
       time and that is a fact
       The only way Coach P. is let go is if they really bomb as he
       still has a lot of support by the ones who make those decisions
       The real key to the 2017 season is how physically they get beat
       up by South Florida if they come out of it in good shape they'll
       be okay however if they come out in bad shape then the season
       could be a long one
       #Post#: 18700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: July 19, 2017, 7:30 pm
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       South  Florida could very well be  a top 25 or 20 team.  I hope
       their coach has enough class not to let this get out of hand. I
       think he does  but I still see something like a 45-7 beating
       down there .  Overall  I guess 6-5 is very optimistic or maybe
       5-6 either way the playoffs  are still far off.
       #Post#: 18703--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: July 20, 2017, 5:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Campi47 link ---
       >
       > Street & Smith one of the most respected magazines in the
       country ranks us 9th
       >
       > Carbone is going be the starting QB and Fields will get
       playing time and that is a fact
       >
       > The only way Coach P. is let go is if they really bomb as he
       still has a lot of support by the ones who make those decisions
       >
       > The real key to the 2017 season is how physically they get
       beat up by South Florida if they come out of it in good shape
       they'll be okay however if they come out in bad shape then the
       season could be a long one
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Campi. I think you are correct about Carbone being the starter.
       Coach P hinted to that last fall, on signing day.. I heard it
       with my own ears. he said. "Fields needs to prove to him that he
       can be a starting quarterback" I didnt like that when I heard it
       and a few people in the room looked around at each other as if
       like. OHHHHHH NOOOOO..... Carbone is going to be the starting
       quarterback again?!?!...
       In my warp way of thinking I wouldnt mind if SB goes 1-10 or
       0-11.. I thnk 2-9 or 3-8 is more likely the season, but a total
       rinsing is what the program needs so they can start over..
       #Post#: 18704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Wolfie_MD
       Date: July 20, 2017, 6:28 pm
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       I'm a (former) season ticket holder that would almost certainly
       re-up if it means seeing Tyquell under center. Carbone was
       unfortunately abysmal last year throwing the ball.
       #Post#: 18705--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: July 21, 2017, 8:13 am
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       its really unfortunate how little excitement there is
       surrounding this program- at least on this board- so close to
       the season.  i truly hope its not a reflection of the larger fan
       base.
       #Post#: 18706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
       Date: July 21, 2017, 9:40 am
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       --- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
       >
       > its really unfortunate how little excitement there is
       surrounding this program- at least on this board- so close to
       the season.  i truly hope its not a reflection of the larger fan
       base.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Four consecutive losing seasons will take all the wind out of
       your fan base. We're already a school that struggles greatly
       with fan apathy. Imploding every year due to horrid QB play and
       mediocre offensive coaching will only make it worse. We're the
       dedicated fans and if we're not even excited, just imagine how
       the average student and/or fan feels? We'll be lucky to win
       three games this season.
       Our style of play doesn't help us either. People prefer to watch
       the high scoring spread offenses, or at the very least watch
       competent QB play if you're running a pro-style system. We
       haven't had a good QB since Essington graduated. It's such a
       damn shame, because this program has talent and the defense has
       been elite.
       Had we had even a halfway competent QB we'd have surely made
       some playoff runs these past couple seasons with Hemphill
       running the defense. Letting Hemphill run off to Wake Forest
       rather than promoting him to HC will haunt this program for a
       long time. He'll be the HC at a very good G5 program within the
       next five years mark my words.
       Building hype around your program is a 3-4 year process. We'll
       have to start over from square one since none of the current
       students or players have experienced a conference championship
       season while at SBU.
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