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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: Redwyn
Date: February 8, 2012, 3:46 pm
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Your assumption that facilities can be simply willed into
existence is tough. Even if we had the stadium, our turnout is
PALTRY.
If we were members of the CAA, we would be ahead of ONE team in
football turnout (Towson). Even URI would attract more than us.
Fact of the matter is, we need to learn how to attract/handle
8500 per game before we can bring in the 20-30K we'd need for
FBS.
Baby steps gents. If we end up in the CAA or A-10/CAA Football,
we'll be fine. Our primary goal should be to escape the black
hole that is the AEC, no matter what it takes.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: February 8, 2012, 3:54 pm
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Attendance is a BIG issue especially in NY where College
Football doesn't attract many fans. The only CF team that draws
more than 40k is Syracuse, and Army is behind but after that is
Buffalo which struggles to meet FBS minimum attendance
requirements (15k)
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: sbufan
Date: February 8, 2012, 5:23 pm
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--- Quote from: Redwyn link ---
>
> Your assumption that facilities can be simply willed into
existence is tough. Even if we had the stadium, our turnout is
PALTRY.
>
> If we were members of the CAA, we would be ahead of ONE team
in football turnout (Towson). Even URI would attract more than
us. Fact of the matter is, we need to learn how to
attract/handle 8500 per game before we can bring in the 20-30K
we'd need for FBS.
>
> Baby steps gents. If we end up in the CAA or A-10/CAA
Football, we'll be fine. Our primary goal should be to escape
the black hole that is the AEC, no matter what it takes.
>
--- End Quote ---
I suppose what I'm really trying to say is that I think the
ratings of something like a hypothetical Stony Brook FCS
national championship game would be impressive enough that no
one would care what our facilities or attendance numbers were
like or impressive enough to make investments in those areas
seem reasonable. Stony Brook was a trending topic on twitter
during our AEC game against BU last year. I have no idea what
the ratings were like for that game nor do I know much about
twitter, but I would assume Stony Brook being one of the most
used phrases during that game speaks volumes about Stony Brook's
market potential.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: jaghatai
Date: February 8, 2012, 6:10 pm
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College football in NY hasn't really thrived, but in fairness,
we never really had a team to get behind. Just look at the
support Rutgers got during the Ray Rice days, just because they
were close to NYC.
I would like to see us sell out Lavalle every game this year.
That would be a very strong start.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: February 8, 2012, 7:15 pm
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we wont sell out every game partly because people don't know the
visitor team. As long as we face bad competition we wont sell
out either. So while some say we need to get more support from
the fans before we move up, we also need to move up and play
more relevant competitors (whether moving up means CAA or
MAC...). people already know who Liberty is and they enjoy
coming out for the rivalry game. But Gardner-Webb? VMI?
Charleston Southern? Who cares about them... the local crowd may
not care much about CF, but they surely know who's good and who
isn't. We will face three bad Big South teams at home, I don't
doubt that we probably will get the highest attendance for CCSU
or Colgate and of course Homecoming. Something needs to be done
to attract those alumnis to come out for games other than
homecoming.
If we have continuous success in the near future, that would be
enough to warrant talks of expansion. Also at some point you
need to take the risk and say "if you build it, more people will
come" (we did that with LaValle Stadium back in 2000). I'm sure
that if LaValle gets expanded and more relevant competitors come
out to Stony Brook, more fans would come in to watch the
games...
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: February 8, 2012, 7:25 pm
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Also, the idea of playing in a location other than home I
greatly dislike. I would hate if Stony Brook plays in a "home
away from home" and it would really disappoint me if that
decision ever gets floated around. Even though I live in NYC and
anywhere west of Long Island would be closer to me I would still
dislike the idea. Stony Brook football is supposed to be about
improving the student experience, it shouldn't be treated as a
business even though I would like it to be profitable. It can
stay on campus and still be profitable.
I went to the University of Connecticut a few months ago, and I
ended up watching a football game over there with my gf. I
greatly disliked the fact that we had to be "bused" 30 miles
west to East Hartford all the way from Storrs. The game + bus
rides take away more than half of your day. Left the campus at
1:30pm and ended up getting back like at 8:30pm. Terrible
experience overall and I'm sure it would alienate a lot of
students who don't have a lot of spare time.
One of the great things of LaValle stadium is that I can head
out of H-Quad five minutes (Hell, make it two minutes!) before
game time and be on time for kickoff. Its awesome, and it would
be sad if the administration makes the decision to play
somewhere other than home. Also, I'm sure that alumni prefer
returning to their campus than going to a Meadowlands Stadium
thats doesn't mean anything for them.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: Seawolf97
Date: February 8, 2012, 7:27 pm
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I have no doubt we are a rising star in the D-1 ranks. We
are getting more and more TV exposure, high profile schedules
and better student athletes than we ever had across all sports.
Look at our Ladies Softball Team hosting Big 12 Texas Tech
for a season opener, football with two legendary programs on
their schedule Syracuse and Army and both NY teams. Our
community support seems to be growing and Newsday loves us. I
am very optimistic about the direction we are going. It wasnt
so long ago football played on a tiny dirt field in front of
maybe 300-500 fans on a sunny day. Believe me I was there,
haftime under a tree, one tiny refreshment stand and wooden
bleachers circa 1995-97. It takes time but we are getting
there and rather quickly I may add. We have folks like Dr.
Kenney and our present AD to thank for what we see now.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: February 9, 2012, 6:23 am
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ecasado, I could not have put it better myself. Thanks for
saving me the time!
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: sbufan
Date: February 9, 2012, 8:46 am
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I expect attendance to be way up this year. I think the playoff
run last year made the community aware of Stony Brook's football
program and really impressed some people; I bet there will be a
record number of season tickets sold this summer. I really think
theres a great chance (better than 50%) that Stony Brook gets
their first FBS win and either of those wins would create a ton
of buzz for the program; if we win either of those games I think
we'll have near sell outs the rest of the way. I think Coker
will also help draw a pretty big crowd; like what ecasado said,
students and the community want to recognizable teams, and while
we can't bring Big Ten teams into Lavalle, we will have one of
the best players from the Big Ten playing in every home game at
Lavalle and I think that's what the students and community want
to see.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of Stony Brook Football
DIR By: sbufan
Date: February 24, 2012, 9:24 am
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I want to note that the goal for this university should be to
get into the Big Ten or whatever it's being called in the
future. Imo, if the running project 50 going forward aren't
saying "in 50 years we want to be in an athletic conference with
schools like Rutgers, UConn, Penn State, Ohio State. What steps
can we take to try and make that possible?" they're wasting
Stony Brook's potential. I don't know if it will ever happen,
but that should be part of the conversation.
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