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#Post#: 12386--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: January 13, 2015, 5:30 pm
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try drawing a 40 mile diameter circle with a centroid on La
Valle. that would be a reasonable approximation of the
population you can draw from. I'd drive 20 miles one way to see
SB football right now if I were a long islander. now if the
team continually competes for CAA titles, the circle grows out
farther. the main crowd needs to come from within 5-10 mile
radius of the school. those are the business we should target
to become SB Football boosters.
#Post#: 12387--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: January 13, 2015, 6:28 pm
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uphill battle no doubt. I'm actually starting to come to terms
with our FCS status. I'm not sure that FBS football, or
hypothetical top-notch Power Five football is what I really want
for Stony Brook. A sold out team with corruption running through
its veins with obsessive commercialism and slave of ESPNs power
and wealth. No, I don't want that
I did enjoy last nights game of Ohio State vs Oregon... But it
didn't feel like college football to me. It didn't feel like
what college football should be.
College football at the highest level in a way shows what's
wrong with America with great Public State Universities selling
out to corporate interests in the name of profits. I don't know
if that's what I really want for SBU
I prefer the family oriented environment that LaValle offers
with great competition but without having to drop $5 million for
a coach while the school struggles to fund its academic mission.
Feels excessive to me.
I'm appreciating the CAA more now and I will continue to support
our Seawolves. **** the FBS. Its no longer as important for me
If the need for expansion arises and our fan base desires a
higher level of competition, then so be it. but lets not sell
away our institution's soul for the sake of hypothetical
profits. Money that its in the hand of a few top tier programs
anyways...
#Post#: 12388--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: sbugold
Date: January 14, 2015, 10:01 am
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
>
> uphill battle no doubt. I'm actually starting to come to terms
with our FCS status. I'm not sure that FBS football, or
hypothetical top-notch Power Five football is what I really want
for Stony Brook. A sold out team with corruption running through
its veins with obsessive commercialism and slave of ESPNs power
and wealth. No, I don't want that
>
> I did enjoy last nights game of Ohio State vs Oregon... But it
didn't feel like college football to me. It didn't feel like
what college football should be.
>
> College football at the highest level in a way shows what's
wrong with America with great Public State Universities selling
out to corporate interests in the name of profits. I don't know
if that's what I really want for SBU
>
> I prefer the family oriented environment that LaValle offers
with great competition but without having to drop $5 million for
a coach while the school struggles to fund its academic mission.
Feels excessive to me.
>
> I'm appreciating the CAA more now and I will continue to
support our Seawolves. **** the FBS. Its no longer as important
for me
>
> If the need for expansion arises and our fan base desires a
higher level of competition, then so be it. but lets not sell
away our institution's soul for the sake of hypothetical
profits. Money that its in the hand of a few top tier programs
anyways...
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm with you 100% on this, ecasadoSBU, and have expressed that
sentiment a number of times. I much prefer the more wholesome,
family-centric approach SBU has taken so far.to the cut-throat,
scandal-ridden, commercialized path some bigger programs have
pursued. It seems that once a program has reached a certain
level of competition and expectation it becomes very hard to
retain perspective and avoid losing perspective.
I'd like to see the Seawolves continue to improve and become a
model for the FCS by becoming a perennial top 5 rated program,
go deep into the playoffs every season and scare the hell out of
(and hopefully often beat) every FBS team they have the
opportunity to play!! At that level of performance, the reward
will be to regularly see 12,000-15,000 in the stadium, while
not sacrificing the school's academic, recruiting or community
standards!!
#Post#: 12389--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: January 14, 2015, 10:19 am
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hard to argue with that. do we really want it to become a place
where the coach goes 8-5 and is on the hot seat- every year???
our brand of football is fun to watch. our fans our great. our
players are good kids. we like our coaches and admin. lets
keep winning and make some noise and see what happens.
but yes- if things get bigger/better/faster, will the $$$ draw
away from other sports?
also note that in the 40 mile radius is a whole lot of water!!!
ive always thought that roads are an issue for bigger crowds at
lavalle- whether its community or even off campus students- the
roads dont really support 25k on gameday.
plus, the family atmosphere will instill the kids to grow up SB
fans and eventually come to SB- where their family and friends
can watch them play at lavalle. how great is that?
this is sort of the ivy league approach- keep it clean and about
academics first- except of course, we use scholarships.
i know now- from the previous few seasons- how great and
exciting november can be when my team is in it, versus this
year, when im waiting for basketball to start.
and lastly, that will make it so much sweeter when knocking off
the FBS opponents!
#Post#: 12392--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: ry1nik
Date: January 14, 2015, 12:53 pm
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I have thought this from Day One and couldn't agree more. I like
being able to attend a game and not have to deal with 30,000
other fans trying to do the same...not to mention keeping the
university's priorities straight.
#Post#: 12395--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: guest260
Date: January 15, 2015, 10:58 am
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Happy New Year everyone!
As always some great points and posts.
IMHO- and having played at a fairly well known D1 program that
had packed houses each week- there is nothing wrong with this.
Our school's priorities were no different than most of the
others I see and did not have the level of "corruption" some of
you have espoused that you seem to want to pain a broad brush
with. And you know what? Having a coach be on the hot seat to me
is a good thing!
I wonder if Coach P was in his last of year of this contract
would have done things a bit differently than he did this year?
Having the fan base be a bit more "involved" at my school did
not mean before, during and after our fans did not attend. It is
called "tradition" and if you don't have a tradition in wanting
to bring your kids and grandkids to a game, then that is a
problem here especially on just about any given home game
weekend the LI RR is full of kids wanting to leave and go home.
There are many great schools have that a loyal fan base and have
amazing experiences each week and with a wholesome family venue
like we have here.
if I was to speak to SH, I would ask to view a SB game like I
did last year. When I was sick last year and could not make one
of the games, it was embarrassing to look at the live streaming
being done and just how unprofessional it was being streamed
out.
If you want to increase the money in the Touchdown Club, why not
take a playbook from every HS booster club. When Johnny comes to
play at SB the parents are given an option to get involved at
one of several levels and "sign up" Heck, I am sure SH could
craft an e-mail to this effect. I too do not believe we could
get to the 15,000 average threshold from our home games to get a
FBS slot, with how our current make-up of putting "butts in
seats" but man on man we can do better than this.
#Post#: 12397--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: January 15, 2015, 1:19 pm
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but lets face it, aside from the first game of the season, and
the homecoming game, I'd evaluate the overall attendance at the
other home games as Underwhelming. no students!!
#Post#: 12398--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: January 15, 2015, 2:19 pm
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all of these issues are outlined in the making SB better thread.
and, so are the suggested solutions!
#Post#: 12427--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: January 21, 2015, 8:12 am
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saw this on an SB construction webpage:
Bringing the total campus housing inventory to 10,300 beds; the
largest in SUNY
again, LaValle seats 8200 and IFCU seats around 4000. the
bodies are there. now we need to keep them there, do some math,
and get them to the game!
#Post#: 12434--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: January 22, 2015, 12:11 pm
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believe it or not, off season winter conditioning workouts for
the football team will start next week as the boys return to
school. it will be interesting to see if we pick up some JC
transfers to these early workout, guys that may be doing
mid-year transfers to SB.
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