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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: November 12, 2014, 11:41 am
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EcasadoSBU. Why dont you bring this up to Stonybrook Athletics
attention?. As a recent grad you will be heard. No one listens
to me because i didnt go to SB, even though just about my entire
tailgate buddies have!
#Post#: 12041--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 12, 2014, 11:51 am
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
>
> Also, the problem with a school like Stony Brook is that there
is not a unified team between the administration/campus life/
and residential life to encourage attendance at athletics
events. These organizations feel like they all work separately
and at times it feels like they work against each other or
compete for the attention of students. Most of the time while I
was at the University residential life (RAs, RHDs, and etc)
didn't even acknowledge that there was a football game going on
at the stadium. They had their own list of events scheduled and
at times they even had events with time conflicts with football.
That's why I hated the whole setup. In a way they would promote
"Residential College" pride but not "Stony Brook pride" which is
absolutely ridiculous. Why do I give a fu** if I live in
Langmuir College... I'm a Stony Brook student and a proud wolf
so they should be promoting university-wide events and not their
on agenda
>
> They SHOULD BE NOTHING schedule when there is a football game
on campus. the Football game and basketball games should be
where all students mingle no matter whether they live in South
Campus or North campus. Its sad that the administration as whole
has not noticed this yet. This is why the campus is so
disjointed. Students don't feel like they are part of a greater
whole. They don't feel like TRUE seawolves. They just feel like
students that belong to their specific Quad and that's it
>
> in my visits to the University of Connecticut I was amazed how
well they do it. They do an amazing job promoting UCONN pride.
Students wear their pride everywhere they go... and not only
that: If they have to Chant "UCONN.... HUSKY" at any location
they would get a crowd to respond to them. Try the same at Stony
Brook with the "What's a Seawolf?" and people will probably
laugh at you.
>
> and UCONN is only one example. I'm sure there is schools that
do it waaaay better than them out there. The Clemsons, South
Carolina, Florida, Syracuses of the world...
>
> Honest effort has to be put in by the administrator. Real
effort. This should also go hand in hand with the constructions
of new facilities to enhance student life as mentioned in the
Making SB Better thread
>
--- End Quote ---
this brings up an interesting question Crazy Eddie... i wasnt
aware that there was such a disconnect. thanks for sharing your
insight as you were in the mix and know what's going on.
why such a decentralized process at SB?
i agree with your sentiment on getting scheduling together.
the answers are there; that's not the hard part. the solutions
are clear. even the expense- that's not even the hard part,
because the school does have some $$$ to implement. the real
difficulty is getting the message to them, and then, being all
on the same page. so your right Crazy Eddie, disjointed.
greater good, utilitarianism, JS Mill. i remember reading this
philosophy... ironically... at SB.
#Post#: 12043--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: November 12, 2014, 12:28 pm
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I think to answer your question in why such a decentralized
process at Stony Brook we have to take a look at its history,
and its present, and the way they are planning for the future
This school was planned to be a research heavy institution from
the start in the early 1960s. It grew so quickly that no one
really paid attention at the "process" of how things really
should get done. For decades our administrators were focused on
making Stony Brook a top notch research institution and all the
focus was to succeed in that and to a certain extent they have
succeeded (It was only until Kenny came in the early 1990s that
she noticed how ****ty everything else not involving "research"
was at the University. She had great ideas of how things should
be done because she came from the University of Texas-Austin...
and she improved a lot of things but a lot of the old-timers
hated her because her ideas took away from "more important"
things )
Adding dorms, campus dining, a student Union, and athletics
facilities came out of necessity with very little planning and
thought in how to expand the campus cohesively and avoiding the
red tape that we have today. So what we got today is a product
of such a mess. We have the Faculty Student Association managing
Campus Dining/Bookstore/ and the Seawolves Marketplace,
Residential Life managing Student Residences, and you have the
Athletic Department managing Athletic facilities and events. You
also have the Commuter Student Association working for the
interest of the commuter population and the Stony Brook Weekend
Life Council managing Student Activities on Weekends.... Lastly
add the Undergraduate Student Government and Graduate Student
Organization working for the interests of their respective
students... and between this pile of garbage you have the
Students trying to find an event to have fun burried between all
these divisions that some times don't seem to work together.
Dr. Stanley did a great job consolidating and eliminating red
tape with his Project 50... But he basically focused on the
academic and administrative arm of the University...
When is something going to be done to eliminate all the garbage
in the student life side of things? I'm not so sure
But my point is...
All these groups (USG, GSO, FSA, Athletics, ResLife, Commuter
S.A, Campus Dining, Student Life Weekend Council) should have a
common schedule which doesn't conflict between each other. They
should help one another advertise events and should have common
goal of engaging the entire stony Brook community not just a
tiny fraction of the population.
In reality what usually happens is that you end up having one
big fraction of the population who doesn't even find out that
there are events currently going on... or that is attending
another event they care more about... or who goes home on
weekend cuz he thinks Stony Brook is boring and full of apathy
because of little marketing and little unity.
Take a minute or two and visit the site
today.uconn.edu
There you can find out pretty much everything that is currently
going on at UCONN...
Then find me a site other than this ****ty calendar that
promotes events to the campus community
HTML http://calendar.activedatax.com/stonybrook/EventList.aspx?fromdate=11/12/2014&todate=11/25/2014&display=Month&view=DateTime
Stony Brook can do better than that... Sometimes I just think
they choose not to. The solution is there, but our admins are to
blind to even see it. They get away with murder
#Post#: 12044--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: November 12, 2014, 12:33 pm
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I should take the time to bring write this issues on paper and
send them to administrators. I guess thats the only way we can
ask for change. I'm going to try and do this
#Post#: 12047--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 12, 2014, 1:34 pm
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
>
> I think to answer your question in why such a decentralized
process at Stony Brook we have to take a look at its history,
and its present, and the way they are planning for the future
>
> This school was planned to be a research heavy institution
from the start in the early 1960s. It grew so quickly that no
one really paid attention at the "process" of how things really
should get done. For decades our administrators were focused on
making Stony Brook a top notch research institution and all the
focus was to succeed in that and to a certain extent they have
succeeded (It was only until Kenny came in the early 1990s that
she noticed how ****ty everything else not involving "research"
was at the University. She had great ideas of how things should
be done because she came from the University of Texas-Austin...
and she improved a lot of things but a lot of the old-timers
hated her because her ideas took away from "more important"
things )
>
> Adding dorms, campus dining, a student Union, and athletics
facilities came out of necessity with very little planning and
thought in how to expand the campus cohesively and avoiding the
red tape that we have today. So what we got today is a product
of such a mess. We have the Faculty Student Association managing
Campus Dining/Bookstore/ and the Seawolves Marketplace,
Residential Life managing Student Residences, and you have the
Athletic Department managing Athletic facilities and events. You
also have the Commuter Student Association working for the
interest of the commuter population and the Stony Brook Weekend
Life Council managing Student Activities on Weekends.... Lastly
add the Undergraduate Student Government and Graduate Student
Organization working for the interests of their respective
students... and between this pile of garbage you have the
Students trying to find an event to have fun burried between all
these divisions that some times don't seem to work together.
>
> Dr. Stanley did a great job consolidating and eliminating red
tape with his Project 50... But he basically focused on the
academic and administrative arm of the University...
>
> When is something going to be done to eliminate all the
garbage in the student life side of things? I'm not so sure
>
> But my point is...
>
> All these groups (USG, GSO, FSA, Athletics, ResLife, Commuter
S.A, Campus Dining, Student Life Weekend Council) should have a
common schedule which doesn't conflict between each other. They
should help one another advertise events and should have common
goal of engaging the entire stony Brook community not just a
tiny fraction of the population.
>
> In reality what usually happens is that you end up having one
big fraction of the population who doesn't even find out that
there are events currently going on... or that is attending
another event they care more about... or who goes home on
weekend cuz he thinks Stony Brook is boring and full of apathy
because of little marketing and little unity.
>
> Take a minute or two and visit the site
>
> today.uconn.edu
>
> There you can find out pretty much everything that is
currently going on at UCONN...
>
> Then find me a site other than this ****ty calendar that
promotes events to the campus community
>
>
HTML http://calendar.activedatax.com/stonybrook/EventList.aspx?fromdate=11/12/2014&todate=11/25/2014&display=Month&view=DateTime
>
> Stony Brook can do better than that... Sometimes I just think
they choose not to. The solution is there, but our admins are to
blind to even see it. They get away with murder
>
--- End Quote ---
from what i know, agreed. it grew so quickly, that things get
missed.
i hadnt even heard of some of these groups. to me, the critical
one is the Stony Brook Weekend Life Council. this could be the
key to getting things changed and perhaps boosting attendance.
HTML http://studentaffairs.stonybrook.edu/sac/weekend_life/weekendlife.shtml
but like i always say, mini golf and movies and laser tag aint
gonna do it! we have to look at our competition and what they
are doing right/wrong.
i *love* golf. i play 15 times a year. but look how exciting
this is to an 18 year old:
HTML https://stonybrook.collegiatelink.net/organization/weekendlife/gallery/Album/33344
a whopping 40 students are on the roster for that club. i do
applaud the efforts though. here is the mission:
HTML http://studentaffairs.stonybrook.edu/sac/weekend_life/cosponsorship.shtml
doesnt entirely reflect the ideas we've come up with in the idea
thread, but then again, they are constrained by the powers that
be. its a university-sanctioned club.
i am repetitive- i know. but you have to consider this: a 17
year old holds a brochure for SB, and one for... SJU, Albany,
Delaware, Buffalo, Oneonta, etc.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 12, 2014, 1:34 pm
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--- Quote from: ecasadoSBU link ---
>
> I should take the time to bring write this issues on paper and
send them to administrators. I guess thats the only way we can
ask for change. I'm going to try and do this
>
--- End Quote ---
and im willing to help. we should move this over to the idea
thread. in fact, you can print that out and submit it! what
could be better than honest feedback from insiders, students,
alums, sports fans, etc.
#Post#: 12381--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: January 13, 2015, 9:39 am
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While reading about the Ohio/Oregon on NYTimes.. saw this
article and which pretty much sums up why we should think twice
before dreaming about FBS at Stony Brook:
HTML http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/08/upshot/the-places-in-america-where-college-football-means-the-most.html?ref=ncaafootball&abt=0002&abg=0
There is not many college football fans in general in
northeast.. and if you scroll down you will see that only 4% in
NY likes a college team... i.e. any college team!
#Post#: 12382--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: January 13, 2015, 9:56 am
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as a member of the SB Football Touchdown Club, I received this
email this week. I thought I would share it with all of you,
perhaps some of you would think of joining the Touchdown Club,
or volunteering to help out in the 2015 season.
Dear Friends,
In just the last two years, the launch of the Stony Brook
Touchdown Club has seen over 130 members contribute to the Stony
Brook Football program to help transform the student-athlete
experience as well as create a culture of leadership and
success, both on and off the field.
​
Simply put, our goal is to win the CAA title and compete for a
national championship. While we expect to win on the field, the
overarching mission is provide our student-athletes with the
tools to positively impact the world around them through their
pursuit of academic and athletic excellence. Your involvement
and investment now will continue to shape the future leaders of
our communities.
In order to take the next step in its forward progress, the
Touchdown Club must continue its focus on growing support
through the following ways:
•Increased Touchdown Club membership
•Our goal is 200 members making annual gifts by June 30, 2015.
We are about halfway there.
•Game-Day Atmosphere
•We will unveil “Seawolves Alley” in the fall of 2015 and you
won’t want to miss being a part of this game-day experience
•Annual Football Spring Game
•We ask that our alumni use this day to come out to LaValle
Stadium and support the Seawolves every year.
•Downey Memorial Football Golf Outing – Our golf outing is an
important fundraiser every year for the program. We have set two
goals this year:
•Have 50 Stony Brook Football alumni participate in the outing
•Raise $25K or more in corporate sponsorship for the outing.
•Touchdown Club Committee – Join a Touchdown Club committee and
help make a difference. Here is a list of committees and please
reach out to me if you are interested in helping in any one or
more of these areas.
•Touchdown Club Membership Committee
•Golf Outing Committee
•Spring Game Committee
Increasing annual support of Stony Brook Touchdown Club is the
most direct way to support the transformation that is taking
place every day in the lives of Stony Brook's student-athletes
and will allow Stony Brook University to launch into the future
and sustain itself as a top program both in the CAA and on a
national level.
We are looking for individuals like you who would be interested
in becoming more involved with the Touchdown Club by helping to
improve the various areas stated above.
If you would like to participate please contact Sam Kornhauser
at 631-632-7198 or at Samuel.kornhauser@stonybrook.edu. Go
Seawolves!
Sincerely,
Blake Reed
President Stony Brook Touchdown Club
#Post#: 12384--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: January 13, 2015, 2:54 pm
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--- Quote from: iBOsbu link ---
>
> While reading about the Ohio/Oregon on NYTimes.. saw this
article and which pretty much sums up why we should think twice
before dreaming about FBS at Stony Brook:
>
>
HTML http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/08/upshot/the-places-in-america-where-college-football-means-the-most.html?ref=ncaafootball&abt=0002&abg=0
>
> There is not many college football fans in general in
northeast.. and if you scroll down you will see that only 4% in
NY likes a college team... i.e. any college team!
>
--- End Quote ---
This is the problem with New York specifically Long Island and
is one reason why Hofstra abandon their Football program.
Attendance were dismal. Long Island has a population of
3,000,000 million people so 4 % of that is still 120,000 people
whoa re college football fans. But how many are Seawolf fans??
That will be the problem Shawn Heilbron will be up against
trying to get new blood into lavalle Stadium. I dont have an
answer to this issue except win games and making it deep into
the playoffs every year. That should help!!!!
#Post#: 12385--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: January 13, 2015, 4:08 pm
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i tried to run some rough #s earlier this year in one of these
threads... forget the 3million on LI... how about the campus
alone!!! must be over 15k faculty/staff and we know there are
25k students.
can we get 8200 to the game? heck lets say family and community
shows up for 1200.
can we get 7000 to the game?
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