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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 12, 2014, 9:04 am
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Hammer- at the risk of oversimplifying- i think we are all
thinking exactly that.
its so simple it reminds me of 7th grade football. double
tight, triple back, I formation, send everyone through a hole to
block, block, and carry. i really do love it. throwback
football.
but late in the game when we are down 10 or 14 or whatever, we
dont have another maysonet to break 80 yards off tackle.
so we need a plan B.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: November 12, 2014, 9:07 am
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I just found this out from a friend of mine whose daughter plays
fencing for NAVY.. All Cadets, who are Athletes MUST attend all
Football games as student fans.. I don't know if this is a
Military thing with all other military schools or just NAVY..
This is something to consider for SB. Make all the other
scholarship athletes attend Football games. Obviously, if an
athlete is sick or has an exam they are not required to go..
This sounds like a paramilitary organization stunt but hey, it
will surely put bodies into the student section!! I would also
think the NCAA would have to have their say about this stunt
too!!!!!!
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 12, 2014, 9:18 am
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its tough today. kids rather play with facebook or smartphones
or whatever. its easier to sit on the couch.
in the idea thread, some solutions that wont get us all the way
there but will help- give away free t-shirts, get schedule
magnets in every dorm, give away free food at games, give away
free tuition, create a loyalty program where game attendees are
entered for free tuition, etc. In the old days, RAs would knock
on doors and pump kids up and tell them to walk over to
Seawolves Field. more signage with schedules, more rivalry
games, get the game piped into the Bench, closed circuit TV in
each room, etc. This isnt the silver bullet, but it helps.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: November 12, 2014, 9:20 am
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Hammer, you might have something there. the other scholarship
athletes should be encouraged (required) to come out to football
and basketball games to support the TWO money sports at the
school.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: November 12, 2014, 9:25 am
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Chairman: just two weeks ago, we had a similar end-of-game
situation with UNH, and our O could not move the ball. I did
not see us transition into no-huddle offense, either last week
or against UNH. and now that I think about it, go back to the WM
game, our red zone O really stunk in the overtime period.
becoming good at hurry-up O and Red Zone O takes practice
practice practice. you dont need a super mobile QB to make it
work, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning do just fine in thes
situations, and they cant run worth a lick. but the kids need
to be trained by the coaching staff on how to make these
Offenses work. in previous seasons, we relied on Maysonet to
break one loose, or for Essington to hit Norrell with a bomb
down the middle of the field. but that was Big South football,
we need to get more sophisticated in the CAA to win against the
best teams in the conf.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: November 12, 2014, 9:38 am
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agreed. our run-first offense does open up these opportunities
too, which is a good thing.
im also a contrarian on hurry up offense... IF you have the
times out. for example, most teams throw to the sidelines and
get out of bounds, which is fine, that works. but the defense
knows this and is usually covering it. if they show that, that
might soften the middle. it depends on what they are showing.
i like will tye on a 12 yard in for a new set of downs.
and regarding attendance:
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: November 12, 2014, 9:46 am
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you are right, we debated these points last spring, and you had
an awesome list of ideas. I really like the one about getting a
better Student Commons area. I was at Alabama this summer, and
they have an awesome gathering place for the students, a
circular bowl area, surrounded by eating areas and the student
store. nice place to hang out.
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: November 12, 2014, 11:16 am
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Army also requires all cadets to attend football games. I don't
think any other school other than the service academy do this. I
don't think its a terrible idea to at least encourage the
scholarship student athletes (M&W BBALL) to attend the football
game even though I'm sure that it may create conflicts on their
schedule with practice, training, or academics etc
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: ecasadoSBU
Date: November 12, 2014, 11:27 am
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Also, the problem with a school like Stony Brook is that there
is not a unified team between the administration/campus life/
and residential life to encourage attendance at athletics
events. These organizations feel like they all work separately
and at times it feels like they work against each other or
compete for the attention of students. Most of the time while I
was at the University residential life (RAs, RHDs, and etc)
didn't even acknowledge that there was a football game going on
at the stadium. They had their own list of events scheduled and
at times they even had events with time conflicts with football.
That's why I hated the whole setup. In a way they would promote
"Residential College" pride but not "Stony Brook pride" which is
absolutely ridiculous. Why do I give a fu** if I live in
Langmuir College... I'm a Stony Brook student and a proud wolf
so they should be promoting university-wide events and not their
on agenda
They SHOULD BE NOTHING schedule when there is a football game on
campus. the Football game and basketball games should be where
all students mingle no matter whether they live in South Campus
or North campus. Its sad that the administration as whole has
not noticed this yet. This is why the campus is so disjointed.
Students don't feel like they are part of a greater whole. They
don't feel like TRUE seawolves. They just feel like students
that belong to their specific Quad and that's it
in my visits to the University of Connecticut I was amazed how
well they do it. They do an amazing job promoting UCONN pride.
Students wear their pride everywhere they go... and not only
that: If they have to Chant "UCONN.... HUSKY" at any location
they would get a crowd to respond to them. Try the same at Stony
Brook with the "What's a Seawolf?" and people will probably
laugh at you.
and UCONN is only one example. I'm sure there is schools that do
it waaaay better than them out there. The Clemsons, South
Carolina, Florida, Syracuses of the world...
Honest effort has to be put in by the administrator. Real
effort. This should also go hand in hand with the constructions
of new facilities to enhance student life as mentioned in the
Making SB Better thread
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Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
FBS Football, etc
DIR By: BigFatFan
Date: November 12, 2014, 11:40 am
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those are very impressive insights. I suggest that you bring
them to the attention of our new AD. I met him Saturday, and he
seems very engaging and motivated to improve things at the
school as they pertain to athletics.
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