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       #Post#: 12013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Wolfie_MD
       Date: November 10, 2014, 10:58 pm
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       Student turnout was pathetic. The administration needs to do
       something to improve that- I don't know if the RAs need to be
       aggressive with it but there were like 70 students total in the
       student section. Yes I know there are a lot of commuters but
       there have to be more kids still on campus. To be fair, even big
       schools have trouble filling student sections but those are
       schools that charge students for tickets. What excuse do Stony
       Brook students have? Pretty pathetic.
       On the other hand, the community involvement with the team is
       awesome. Its backwards but the community attendance is amazing.
       #Post#: 12015--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: ecasadoSBU
       Date: November 10, 2014, 11:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: Wolfie_MD link ---
       >
       > Student turnout was pathetic. The administration needs to do
       something to improve that- I don't know if the RAs need to be
       aggressive with it but there were like 70 students total in the
       student section. Yes I know there are a lot of commuters but
       there have to be more kids still on campus. To be fair, even big
       schools have trouble filling student sections but those are
       schools that charge students for tickets. What excuse do Stony
       Brook students have? Pretty pathetic.
       >
       > On the other hand, the community involvement with the team is
       awesome. Its backwards but the community attendance is amazing.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's if you count the 10 or so alumnus that were in the
       student section. We still feel the need to be "Students" to
       incubate a following. I wonder how long will it take before I
       can actually graduate from the Red Zone and be able to use my
       chairback in SEC 103. We really try hard to pump of the current
       students. But its not easy. Apathy is a serious problem. Kids
       think they are too good for college football, that "Stony Brook
       is not a football school" and doesn't deserve support. It sucks
       but hopefully one day in the future we can sell out LaValle
       consistently...
       #Post#: 12016--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: sbugold
       Date: November 11, 2014, 8:56 am
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       --- Quote from: BigFatFan link ---
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       > I hear you, winning is the easy way to fix things.  My hats
       off to Coastal Carolina, but if we'd stayed in the Big South,
       maybe we'd be undefeated this year too.  but we moved up, and we
       are playing big boy FCS football now.  and I guess we are
       struggling with that transition.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I saw the latest FCS Coaches' poll in the newspaper this
       morning.  UNH is #2 and Bryant is in at #21, with only a single
       loss!!  Oh, what could have (SHOULD have) been.
       #Post#: 12018--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: November 11, 2014, 9:12 am
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       disaffected student body is of course a problem at a lot of
       universities- but at SB, its a slightly different problem.  most
       of the time, schools cant get the kids out of the dorms and over
       to the stadium.  while SB has that issue (over 10k kids on
       campus!), the larger issue that needs to be addressed is are
       they even on campus on a saturday.
       if you tear up the roots of the problem, other solutions will
       follow.
       #Post#: 12019--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: BigFatFan
       Date: November 11, 2014, 9:42 am
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       how would you like to be a Sam Houston State fan, they are not
       even ranked, got two votes in the FCS coaches poll.  what a drop
       from past years for that program.  and they brought in a bunch
       of FBS transfers this summer to fill out their roster, thought
       they'd be a juggernaut with that loaded line up, but it did not
       work.
       We need to try and turn SB into a "football" school.  change the
       paradigm with the students so they want to attend the games.
       not sure how that is done.  winning is one way, but there have
       to be other ways to do it to.  I agree with others on this blog
       that the local community is stepping up and attending the games.
       also, player families drive hundreds of miles to attend the
       games, even if their sons are back up players.
       Was in the area this past weekend with friends, and was
       commenting to them that some of the local sports bars, not just
       The Bench, should be made into SB Football hangouts.  A place
       like Miller Ale House would be a perfect sponsor of the team.
       there must be many others out there.  and I know there are SBU
       supporters out there that are willing to extend themselves to
       promote the school and the football program.  these "volunteers"
       should be embraced by the school and leveraged in a way to
       "spread the word" about SBU football.  grass roots style.
       #Post#: 12020--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: BigFatFan
       Date: November 11, 2014, 9:44 am
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       If the coaching staff had started Bednarski right off the bat,
       we win both the Bryant and ND games, we are sitting at 6-4 right
       now, and we are in the top 25 in the FCS coaches poll.  that
       simple.  and..... maybe we win the UCONN game too.
       #Post#: 12026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Seawolf97
       Date: November 11, 2014, 8:09 pm
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       The last two minutes  of the game against JMU was painful to
       watch. We are so slow getting a play called  and the execution
       wasn't all that good . I hope to see improvement next year but
       for now we look lifeless out there.  Several  experts on the AGS
       board feel we are trying too hard not to lose and not trying to
       win. I have to agree with them . Granted   JMU has a super star
       at QB  but they executed better even when  they went to their
       hurry up offense. I watched a ton of time click off the clock as
       we struggled to  get a play started. So wait until next year.
       #Post#: 12027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: BigFatFan
       Date: November 12, 2014, 8:14 am
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       Seawolf:  excellent points on the two minute offense, or lack
       there of.  on that final drive, we got the ball back with more
       than 4 mins on the clock.  I too was surprised to see how the
       offense moved with no sense of urgency.  we ran three running
       plays in that series which continued to run the clock.  I had a
       chance to ask an offensive player after the game about what
       transpired in the last several minutes of the game, and he
       shrugged his shoulders and implied that 1) we dont practice 2
       minute drill with any regularity, or 2) our play calling during
       the 2 minute drills suck.  clearly, you could tell he was
       frustrated.  Coaching.....
       #Post#: 12028--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: November 12, 2014, 8:50 am
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       certainly there have been some bad play calls- not just this
       particular drive- but also over the course of the season- and
       then you add in the kinder experiment (or rather, how long it
       went).
       i just hope the staff can turn it around, because we are just a
       few hairs away from a really good resume on what is adding up to
       be a down year.
       #Post#: 12029--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation,
       FBS Football, etc
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: November 12, 2014, 8:54 am
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       --- Quote from: BigFatFan link ---
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       > Seawolf:  excellent points on the two minute offense, or lack
       there of.  on that final drive, we got the ball back with more
       than 4 mins on the clock.  I too was surprised to see how the
       offense moved with no sense of urgency.  we ran three running
       plays in that series which continued to run the clock.  I had a
       chance to ask an offensive player after the game about what
       transpired in the last several minutes of the game, and he
       shrugged his shoulders and implied that 1) we dont practice 2
       minute drill with any regularity, or 2) our play calling during
       the 2 minute drills suck.  clearly, you could tell he was
       frustrated.  Coaching.....
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This issue is really alarming.. SB did the same thing last year
       and i thought this problem would be corrected at the start of
       this year. I know coach P loves the whole "pound and ground"
       thing but, if your Offensive lineman can't move the Defensive
       tackles out of the way, then how can you have a very effective
       ground game?? SB actually is doing a much better job with the
       short passes for decent yardages because of the TE making
       crucial blocks..... Why not make that the 2 minutes drill? The
       WR can run out of bounds to stop the clock which also gives the
       coaches time to scan the fields more effectively!..... Again,
       this comes down to playcalling..
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