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       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: Unchained Date: October 30, 2022, 2:20 pm
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       If he was truly given another 2 year extension from 22-24,
       expect a mass exodus of players. There are some kids on here who
       have asperation's of playing   after college, Kids who came from
       High schools as very talented players. It seems that this
       program turns good players to either sit on the side lines or
       ruins them by not further developing them.
       #Post#: 37312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: Hammertime Date: October 30, 2022, 2:42 pm
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       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=960.msg37309#msg37309 date=1667137399]
       im not nearly as down on the program as everyone else here is...
       but, i ponder if this thread is the what most of the fanbase
       looks like (arguably true?), then sure no one is happy.
       if the season ends and we are 1-10, with waning attendance and
       the transfer portal, that's not a good look.  especially given
       we have to pay to watch, the facilities we have built, full
       entry into the CAA, etc.  i thought we'd be 4-7 or 5-6 at best.
       i was way off.
       [/quote]
       Chair. What has become of you lately. I’ve known you for 10
       years or more, but feel like you are giving this program way
       more credit then they deserve, when you clearly are seeing what
       is going on as we all do..
       Coach P and SH are hacks, crooks, fraud. Giving them props is
       doing an injustice to the kids, the fans, who support this
       football program.
       #Post#: 37313--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: Chairman of the Board Date: October 30, 2022, 3:25 pm
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       i just think that there is so much more to it, that coaches and
       administrators know, than us armchair quarterbacks know.  that's
       all.  they know their profession better than we do; just like
       you know yours better than they do.
       if it doesnt make sense, there's probably more to the story.
       GO SB
       #Post#: 37314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: Accelerator Date: October 30, 2022, 4:37 pm
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       You don't need to know more than the fact that Coach P is 1-7
       this year, went down 59-0 to our most hated rivals, who were
       also a 1-6 team, and punted the first 4 games of the year by
       starting inferior QBs on purpose. He is getting paid $500,000 a
       year to go a terrible 12-23 during the 4-year extension that was
       gifted to him after 2018. Attendance is cratering because of how
       terrible this team has been since the extension. It is literally
       the extension that Heilbron made that dug us into this hole. If
       we part ways after 2018 and get a real head coach, we would not
       be here right now!!!
       #Post#: 37315--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: Hammertime Date: October 31, 2022, 4:24 am
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       North Alabama announces head coaching change: Chris Willis is
       out with a 1-7 record this season, 20-34 in six overall;
       associate head coach/offensive coordinator Ryan Held to serve as
       interim head coach.
       Previous FCS in-season changes: Josh Conklin (Wofford) & Doc
       Gamble (UAPB).
       Other FCS schools are making changes mid season. Nope, not SBU.
       They reward coaches who perform badly with contract
       extension!!!!
       #Post#: 37316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: Hammertime Date: October 31, 2022, 4:30 am
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       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=960.msg37313#msg37313 date=1667161533]
       i just think that there is so much more to it, that coaches and
       administrators know, than us armchair quarterbacks know.  that's
       all.  they know their profession better than we do; just like
       you know yours better than they do.
       if it doesnt make sense, there's probably more to the story.
       GO SB
       [/quote]
       Yes, your last sentence makes sense., Welcome to NYS corrupt
       swamp. This is why we all must vote red next week. The
       corruption in this state runs up and down every state office,
       all the way to SBU and SB Medicine. … Changes in all aspects of
       state government, including the SUNY Chancellor must happen.
       #Post#: 37317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: sbufan Date: October 31, 2022, 10:10 am
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       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=960.msg37313#msg37313 date=1667161533]
       i just think that there is so much more to it, that coaches and
       administrators know, than us armchair quarterbacks know.  that's
       all.  they know their profession better than we do; just like
       you know yours better than they do.
       if it doesnt make sense, there's probably more to the story.
       GO SB
       [/quote]
       I totally agree.
       If he signed a new contract, it probably wasn't the gift people
       think it was. It could restructure his deal on more favorable
       terms to Stony Brook possibly making it easier to remove him. It
       could be he's transitioning to an administrative role like
       Kornhauser did.
       #Post#: 37318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: sbufan Date: October 31, 2022, 10:14 am
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=960.msg37316#msg37316
       date=1667208603]
       Yes, your last sentence makes sense., Welcome to NYS corrupt
       swamp. This is why we all must vote red next week. The
       corruption in this state runs up and down every state office,
       all the way to SBU and SB Medicine. … Changes in all aspects of
       state government, including the SUNY Chancellor must happen.
       [/quote]
       This has nothing to do with politics. Please cut this out
       #Post#: 37319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: Hammertime Date: October 31, 2022, 11:32 am
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       [quote author=sbufan link=topic=960.msg37318#msg37318
       date=1667229281]
       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=960.msg37316#msg37316
       date=1667208603]
       Yes, your last sentence makes sense., Welcome to NYS corrupt
       swamp. This is why we all must vote red next week. The
       corruption in this state runs up and down every state office,
       all the way to SBU and SB Medicine. … Changes in all aspects of
       state government, including the SUNY Chancellor must happen.
       [/quote]
       This has nothing to do with politics. Please cut this out
       [/quote]
       It is everything to do with politics. Open your eyes and ears
       and looking around dude!!
       #Post#: 37320--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Season - 10/29 - Golden Apple - Game 8 @ Albany - 1:00P
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       By: Hammertime Date: October 31, 2022, 11:37 am
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       [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=960.msg37316#msg37316
       date=1667208603]
       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=960.msg37313#msg37313 date=1667161533]
       i just think that there is so much more to it, that coaches and
       administrators know, than us armchair quarterbacks know.  that's
       all.  they know their profession better than we do; just like
       you know yours better than they do.
       if it doesnt make sense, there's probably more to the story.
       GO SB
       [/quote]
       Yes, your last sentence makes sense., Welcome to NYS corrupt
       swamp. This is why we all must vote red next week. The
       corruption in this state runs up and down every state office,
       all the way to SBU and SB Medicine. … Changes in all aspects of
       state government, including the SUNY Chancellor must happen.
       [/quote]
       If what you are saying is true, then I rest my case about this
       being about politics. SBU is willing to have two more years of a
       losing season and losing players to transfer portals because of
       a restructuring deal? Sounds like total corruption to me. That’s
       not how it is supposed to work in the real world. If a coach is
       underperforming, you fire his ass and find a new coach. Not
       reward him with a two year, million Dollar offer, to set him up
       for years later!! I mean, WTF?????
       I rest my case!
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