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       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Accelerator Date: November 21, 2022, 9:01 am
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       [quote author=ry1nik link=topic=949.msg37611#msg37611
       date=1669040446]
       [quote author=Accelerator link=topic=949.msg37609#msg37609
       date=1669039439]
       [quote author=ry1nik link=topic=949.msg37606#msg37606
       date=1669034716]
       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=949.msg37605#msg37605
       date=1669015748]
       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=949.msg37594#msg37594 date=1668959508]
       SJU too.
       also look at any other local college.  st. joes, adelphi, NY
       tech, farmingdale, molloy, dowling, southhampton, SCCC, old
       westbury, queens, st. francis, manhattan.  no football.  LIU is
       "new" and is half in brooklyn (though i believe the team plays
       in nassau).
       so that leaves merchant marine and nassau CC; not peers.
       in the boroughs, columbia barely serves a product 100 blocks
       north of campus.  but there is wagner, fordham, and ASA
       brooklyn.
       [/quote]
       What a poor example. You use a bunch of schools with no national
       relevance to highlight how SBU should consider dropping
       football? None of those schools have the profile of SBU. Our
       academic peers are in the Big Ten getting nationally televised
       games every weekend... not whatever the hell half those schools
       you listed are doing.
       [/quote]
       Another way of looking at it: If SB already has a national
       profile then FB isn’t needed for attaining one.
       [/quote]
       But... it doesn't. Every flagship of every other state has 100
       times more recognition than us. Boise State, the second in
       command in Idaho, has more than us, as does Utah St, Mississippi
       St, Colorado St, etc
       [/quote]
       US News and World Report 2022-23:
       "Boise State University is ranked #331-440 out of 443 National
       Universities"
       "Stony Brook University--SUNY is ranked #77 out of 443 National
       Universities"
       Apparently, "recognition" doesn't translate very well into
       academic success.
       [/quote]
       It may not, but ask 100 people on the street who knows Boise
       State vs who knows Stony Brook and Boise State will win in a
       blowout.
       #Post#: 37614--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: November 21, 2022, 9:05 am
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       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=949.msg37605#msg37605
       date=1669015748]
       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=949.msg37594#msg37594 date=1668959508]
       SJU too.
       also look at any other local college.  st. joes, adelphi, NY
       tech, farmingdale, molloy, dowling, southhampton, SCCC, old
       westbury, queens, st. francis, manhattan.  no football.  LIU is
       "new" and is half in brooklyn (though i believe the team plays
       in nassau).
       so that leaves merchant marine and nassau CC; not peers.
       in the boroughs, columbia barely serves a product 100 blocks
       north of campus.  but there is wagner, fordham, and ASA
       brooklyn.
       [/quote]
       What a poor example. You use a bunch of schools with no national
       relevance to highlight how SBU should consider dropping
       football? None of those schools have the profile of SBU. Our
       academic peers are in the Big Ten getting nationally televised
       games every weekend... not whatever the hell half those schools
       you listed are doing.
       [/quote]
       wrong; i used those as local/regional examples to show that CFB
       hasnt caught on in the area.  the only other product is LIU, NCC
       and USMMA.
       #Post#: 37615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: guest410 Date: November 21, 2022, 9:41 am
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       Rob Ambrose is out as Towson's HC after the 6-5 season
       #Post#: 37616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Campi47 Date: November 21, 2022, 10:36 am
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       The only thing I can say is the School President is got to get
       involved and we know that’s not happening
       #Post#: 37617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Campi47 Date: November 21, 2022, 10:46 am
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       Any player that has been here through Covid-19 and has seen no
       improvement and only regression and sees the program floundering
       every day should really consider moving on
       #Post#: 37618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Hammertime Date: November 21, 2022, 10:49 am
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       [quote author=AirTurn link=topic=949.msg37615#msg37615
       date=1669045261]
       Rob Ambrose is out as Towson's HC after the 6-5 season
       [/quote]
       Wow! Maybe he can come here and be a HC for SBU. Gotta be better
       than Priore
       #Post#: 37619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Hammertime Date: November 21, 2022, 10:59 am
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       [quote author=Campi47 link=topic=949.msg37616#msg37616
       date=1669048584]
       The only thing I can say is the School President is got to get
       involved and we know that’s not happening
       [/quote]
       Rumor has it Campi, she does care and is working her way around
       to athletics. She’s been cleaning house in every department
       since day one of being hired. She fired a ton of VP within the
       departments. This is what I was told by the Associate AD. You
       know who he is….
       #Post#: 37620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Accelerator Date: November 21, 2022, 11:06 am
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       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=949.msg37614#msg37614 date=1669043122]
       [quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=949.msg37605#msg37605
       date=1669015748]
       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=949.msg37594#msg37594 date=1668959508]
       SJU too.
       also look at any other local college.  st. joes, adelphi, NY
       tech, farmingdale, molloy, dowling, southhampton, SCCC, old
       westbury, queens, st. francis, manhattan.  no football.  LIU is
       "new" and is half in brooklyn (though i believe the team plays
       in nassau).
       so that leaves merchant marine and nassau CC; not peers.
       in the boroughs, columbia barely serves a product 100 blocks
       north of campus.  but there is wagner, fordham, and ASA
       brooklyn.
       [/quote]
       What a poor example. You use a bunch of schools with no national
       relevance to highlight how SBU should consider dropping
       football? None of those schools have the profile of SBU. Our
       academic peers are in the Big Ten getting nationally televised
       games every weekend... not whatever the hell half those schools
       you listed are doing.
       [/quote]
       wrong; i used those as local/regional examples to show that CFB
       hasnt caught on in the area.  the only other product is LIU, NCC
       and USMMA.
       [/quote]
       You named a bunch of tiny D3 schools who no one would miss if
       they closed down tomorrow. They barely even offer a college
       institution, much less an athletic program.
       Ambrose had a winning record and Towson had the smarts to fire
       him for underperforming. This only makes Heilbron look like a
       larger fool for holding on to a coach that did magnitudes worse
       than Towson over the last 4 years.
       #Post#: 37621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Chairman of the Board Date: November 21, 2022, 11:36 am
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       whats the difference.  it still means college FB hasnt caught on
       here.
       has it at SB?  attendance and recruits say otherwise.
       #Post#: 37622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 Football Season 
       By: Hammertime Date: November 21, 2022, 11:47 am
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       [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=949.msg37621#msg37621 date=1669052192]
       whats the difference.  it still means college FB hasnt caught on
       here.
       has it at SB?  attendance and recruits say otherwise.
       [/quote]
       How can you of all people say that Chair.
       College football absolutely was catching on here at SBU when
       they were in the Big South and going to the playoffs. Much
       credit to Hofstra for shutting down the football program of
       course, but the point is. SB was filling the stadium and a few
       times more. I remember one playoff game where we had 11,000 fans
       attend.
       Bottom line. People like to cheer for winning teams, not losers.
       If SBU actually cared about their football and basketball, they
       could dominate Long Island and garnish national attention, but
       they dont care.
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