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Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: ecasadoSBU Date: February 19, 2022, 11:40 am
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Joint Statement on NCAA Division I SAAC Resolution
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Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: February 20, 2022, 11:45 am
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[quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=926.msg35667#msg35667
date=1645292447]
Joint Statement on NCAA Division I SAAC Resolution
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This is good. Hopefully it leads to something. The bigger
conferences don't do this BS. Most conferences don't do this BS.
For all the talk of Texas and OU killing the Big 12 over the
summer, nobody from those leagues advocated for barring those
teams from winning conference titles.
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Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: ecasadoSBU Date: February 20, 2022, 12:55 pm
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[quote author=VA_Seawolf link=topic=926.msg35700#msg35700
date=1645379143]
[quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=926.msg35667#msg35667
date=1645292447]
Joint Statement on NCAA Division I SAAC Resolution
HTML https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2022/2/19/general-joint-statement-on-ncaa-division-i-saac-resolution.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2Uk0RFv80hbPnwvbZwIVjMkwGlp08R_QP_xd3bMwDI026fLFAUE_28puI
[/quote]
This is good. Hopefully it leads to something. The bigger
conferences don't do this BS. Most conferences don't do this BS.
For all the talk of Texas and OU killing the Big 12 over the
summer, nobody from those leagues advocated for barring those
teams from winning conference titles.
[/quote]
Like I said before
(1) The top multi-bid conferences don't have an economic or
competitive incentive to ban their outgoing conference mates.
Because their conference tournament is more of a money making
event than an entry to the tournament. Texas/OU would make it
easily via at-large to the NCAA anyway if they are having a good
year
(2)For the little guys its all about the auto-bid!
#Post#: 35704--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: iBOsbu Date: February 20, 2022, 1:21 pm
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If it’s about money, mens bball tourney unit money goes to the
conference first. AE can keep the money if we make it….we
probably have .01% chance if we were allowed in post season
tournament. But for other sports there’s barely any money. It’s
all about achievement, bragging and banner. Let the kids
compete. Makes no sense banning them. Stupid rule.
#Post#: 35715--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: ecasadoSBU Date: February 21, 2022, 8:11 am
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[quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=926.msg35704#msg35704
date=1645384890]
If it’s about money, mens bball tourney unit money goes to the
conference first. AE can keep the money if we make it….we
probably have .01% chance if we were allowed in post season
tournament. But for other sports there’s barely any money. It’s
all about achievement, bragging and banner. Let the kids
compete. Makes no sense banning them. Stupid rule.
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At this level it isn't about the money. Its about the auto-bid.
The AE tournament makes no money and has no broadcasting
dollars. The auto-bid is the most important prize because there
is only one shot to make it to the tournament. That's why they
ban teams on their way out in the low-majors but they don't ban
them in the high-majors
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Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: Hammertime Date: February 21, 2022, 11:01 am
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[quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=926.msg35715#msg35715
date=1645452718]
[quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=926.msg35704#msg35704
date=1645384890]
If it’s about money, mens bball tourney unit money goes to the
conference first. AE can keep the money if we make it….we
probably have .01% chance if we were allowed in post season
tournament. But for other sports there’s barely any money. It’s
all about achievement, bragging and banner. Let the kids
compete. Makes no sense banning them. Stupid rule.
[/quote]
At this level it isn't about the money. Its about the auto-bid.
The AE tournament makes no money and has no broadcasting
dollars. The auto-bid is the most important prize because there
is only one shot to make it to the tournament. That's why they
ban teams on their way out in the low-majors but they don't ban
them in the high-majors
[/quote]
Correct!!
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Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: Chairman of the Board Date: February 22, 2022, 1:10 pm
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am i reading this right that the AE affirmed the ban?
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Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: OldSeawolf Date: February 22, 2022, 1:17 pm
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[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=926.msg35730#msg35730 date=1645557028]
am i reading this right that the AE affirmed the ban?
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Latest from Newsday (I displaying text for those who don't
subscribe). Sounds like AE re-affirmed the ban in a letter to
Newsday:
Stony Brook president sends letter to America East asking for
reversal of postseason ban
Dr. Maurie McInnis, Stony Brook University President, speaks
Dr. Maurie McInnis, Stony Brook University President, speaks at
an introductory news conference for women's basketball head
coach Ashley Langford at Island Federal Credit Union Arena on
May 7, 2021. Credit: James Escher
By Brian Heyman
brian.heyman@newsday.com
Updated February 21, 2022 5:32 PM
The clock is running down for Stony Brook, at least for its
winter teams.
The America East banned the university from its postseason
conference championships — and the possibility of automatic bids
to the NCAAs — for the rest of the school year after SBU stated
in January that it was leaving for the Colonial Athletic
Association on July 1. The conference announced Feb. 2 that it
stood by its decision after the university requested a
reconsideration.
But Stony Brook president Maurie McInnis wants a reconsideration
of the reconsideration. She sent a letter Friday to America East
commissioner Brad Walker to ask for a reversal.
McInnis called the decision by America East’s Board of
Presidents "unfair, unjust, and inequitable, but not
irreversible." She pointed to the Horizon League recently
reversing its disqualification of the Missouri Valley-bound
University of Illinois Chicago.
The response?
"To my knowledge, we have not had a response from her letter,
but this is far from a dead issue," athletic director Shawn
Heilbron told Newsday on Monday. "We will continue to advocate
for our student-athletes as long as we possibly can."
America East, however, has the view that it is indeed a dead
issue.
"The Board of Presidents has already considered and reconsidered
this matter and has rendered its final decision," senior
associate commissioner Sean Tainsh wrote in an email to Newsday.
A couple of SBU student-athletes also wrote a plea to the Board
of Presidents that was rejected.
An attempt at a legal remedy isn’t in play, according to
Heilbron.
"We have explored every possible option with certain
strategies," Heilbron said. "The ability to have it resolved in
a timely manner is not possible. So we’ve resorted to those
actions which we think we will allow us to get a resolution
quickly, which is the ultimate objective."
The Stony Brook women’s basketball team would’ve been a prime
candidate for an automatic bid. The at-large odds are much
longer for teams in the America East. The Seawolves are 23-3
overall and lead the America East at 14-2.
The women’s conference tournament tips off March 5. The Stony
Brook men (16-12, 8-7) would begin the following day.
"The whole year, we've been preaching championship …" guard
Anthony Roberts said earlier this month. "Just for it to be
taken away, it messed a lot of us up.
The decision stemmed from a 2005 America East bylaw for
departing members. In a Feb. 2 statement, the conference wrote
that Stony Brook (under different leadership) supported it at
the time, and that it was applied in 2012-13 to Patriot
League-bound Boston University.
Hartford is also about to leave. It’s dropping to D-III. The
bylaw wasn’t applied.
"Our student-athletes are asking why Hartford was given an
opportunity to compete and we weren’t," Heilbron said.
Or as McInnis put it in her letter:
"The punishment of our student-athletes is predicated on an
outdated, inconsistently applied and controversial America East
bylaw triggered by what should have been a routine conference
realignment discussion."
By Brian Heyman
brian.heyman@newsday.com
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Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: February 23, 2022, 11:18 am
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Signs of a bush league conference....
Just be glad we're on to better things in the CAA. We were never
going to ever get where we wanted to go from the AE.
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Re: Stony Brook Denied Post Season Tournaments
By: KFERMINNY Date: February 23, 2022, 12:16 pm
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Hearing many student-athletes will be attending the Basketball
Senior Day games with signs in protest of the AE.
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