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#Post#: 35118--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: ry1nik Date: January 15, 2022, 2:25 pm
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I'm not sure being in the CAA will help much (if at all) with
getting to the A10. Football has been in the CAA for years and
it's been stuck at the middle or lower half of the league for
most of that time. It's in no better shape (maybe worse) than
when it was in the Big South. While being in the AEC sucks and
everyone wants a change (any change), it's not a cure all.
Vermont has been in the AEC for ages and makes it work for them.
As someone pointed out, the one thing moving to the CAA might
help with is NCAA seeding IF (and a big IF at that) SBU ever
wins the more competitive conference.
#Post#: 35119--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: Redwyn Date: January 15, 2022, 2:26 pm
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My big question is: why is this good for Hofstra now? We should
be able to out-compete them for recruits given the academic and
facility differential, and the gap between our programs
athletically is closing.
Then it struck me - Nassau Coliseum has no tenant. It's not pro
level, but perfectly fine for college. My guess is you'll see a
series for MBB between Hof and SBU. Could see St. John's,
Rutgers and other local powers coming out too. Big potential
visibility/money aid, and puts the game really close to the
larger body of SBU alumni.
#Post#: 35120--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: Hammertime Date: January 15, 2022, 3:35 pm
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[quote author=sbugold link=topic=916.msg35110#msg35110
date=1642260220]
Here's one HUGE downside I don't think you guys have thought
about:
Going forward, in order to watch any of the athletic teams' home
or away games we'll have to sign up for FLO<-Sports!!!. No more
ESPN or SNY I suspect: YUCK!!!
[/quote]
That would be a problem. At the speed things are moving around
this great universe of ours, Flo Sport network wont be around
for long
#Post#: 35121--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: Hammertime Date: January 15, 2022, 3:38 pm
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[quote author=ecasadoSBU link=topic=916.msg35113#msg35113
date=1642266246]
[quote author=AirTurn link=topic=916.msg35111#msg35111
date=1642260962]
[quote author=sbugold link=topic=916.msg35110#msg35110
date=1642260220]
Here's one HUGE downside I don't think you guys have thought
about:
Going forward, in order to watch any of the athletic teams' home
or away games we'll have to sign up for FLO<-Sports!!!. No more
ESPN or SNY I suspect: YUCK!!!
[/quote]
And what a major downside that is. Being on ESPN costs viewers
$6.99 a month and gives them the choice of watching all of the
other conferences, sports, and leagues that come with it. Flo
costs more than that and provides you with one league and very
few sports. CAA is a better conference than America East, and
it's a big step up for SBU. But don't get your hopes up that
this is a stepping stone to the A-10, and whoever said AAC is
dreaming. SBU does not have the facilities, money, leadership or
players for either of those conferences and never will.
[/quote]
What are you talking about????
I wish facilities were the problem that was holding us back. It
isn't facilities at all. We have a great FB stadium, a spanking
new FB indoor training facility, a great arena, and great
development center. Recently renovated Baseball, softball, and
swimming, and track and field facilities. Facilities is not the
problem! Have you seen Fordham's facilities?!? or St. Joseph,
Richmond?
How many times do I have to say that what is truly holding us
back is lack of fan support on the field and at home (TV,
Streaming). College sports are all about fan bases and market
command. If we were selling out the SBU Arena and Kenneth P.
LaValle Stadium every game we would've been long out of the
America East and CAA even if we sucked at the sprots. We would
probably be in the American, or at the very least MAC right now.
Fan bases drive college sports because they are the revenue
generators... obviously
The A-10 is definitely achievable if Long Islanders can get out
of their asses and support the team at the Arena. If Fordham can
be in the A-10 so can we. But what we have right now is mostly
fair-weather fans that spend more time criticizing the team than
supporting it. Even when we win we cannot draw. So how can a
league like the A-10 be interested in a program if it doesn't
draw fans?
[/quote]
Well said!!!!
#Post#: 35122--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: Accelerator Date: January 15, 2022, 5:47 pm
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How long is the Flo contract for? Looks like until 2022-23 from
what I could find. Probably the most hated media deal ever, I
can’t see the CAA re-upping.
#Post#: 35125--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: iBOsbu Date: January 15, 2022, 7:47 pm
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[quote author=Accelerator link=topic=916.msg35122#msg35122
date=1642290456]
How long is the Flo contract for? Looks like until 2022-23 from
what I could find. Probably the most hated media deal ever, I
can’t see the CAA re-upping.
[/quote]
Agreed. Im pretty sure CAA ain’t renewing that contract.
Probably will end up on espn3 hopefully
#Post#: 35130--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: OldSeawolf Date: January 16, 2022, 8:29 am
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Sorry for the re-post, but I posted this in the AE Basketball
thread:
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Positive/Negatives/Comments on moving to CAA from my vantage
point:
NEGATIVES: It will inevitably cost SBU a lot of money to leave
AE (buy out), and pay for things like re-branding. Is it worth
the $ to move to another one-bid conference, even if it is
stronger than the AE? If we're going to spend all this money to
move to a different conference, would it be more prudent to hold
out for the bigger prize of the A-10 (now has 21 men/women
sports)? Is moving to the A-10 even achievable in the next 5
years? Another negative is will this reinforce keeping the
current football coach, to keep "stability" in the transfer to a
new conference? Yet another negative is will SBU leaving be the
beginning of the end for the AE?
POSITIVES: CAA is a stronger conference than AE and that would
certainly be an uptick for SBU athletics. Moreover, if the new
SBU President is endorsing this, this is a major positive for
SBU and its future in sports, and may put to rest the rumors of
SBU going by the way of Hartford (DIII). Silent, but resonating
support for SBU Athletics, from the new chief.
COMMENTS: Assuming that this move to CAA is going to happen, one
cannot help venture to think that the tipping point may have
been the way the SBU baseball team was treated by the
then-acting AE Commissioner. Also, as others have pointed out,
we have perennial athletic cellar dwellars in the AE; time to
associate ourselves with a better brand of athletic competition.
EDIT FROM ORIGINAL POST: FloSports is an atrocious streaming
service. I have subscribed to it every other year when we play
Hofstra at their place in basketball. Streaming cuts out,
reverts back to older parts of game mid-stream, etc. I have
stopped following SBU football for the most part, due to this
crappy (and costly) service. CAA, get your heads out of your
rear, and move to ESPN3/ESPN+.
#Post#: 35133--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: iBOsbu Date: January 16, 2022, 8:38 am
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[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=916.msg35130#msg35130
date=1642343389]
Sorry for the re-post, but I posted this in the AE Basketball
thread:
===============================================
Positive/Negatives/Comments on moving to CAA from my vantage
point:
NEGATIVES: It will inevitably cost SBU a lot of money to leave
AE (buy out), and pay for things like re-branding. Is it worth
the $ to move to another one-bid conference, even if it is
stronger than the AE? If we're going to spend all this money to
move to a different conference, would it be more prudent to hold
out for the bigger prize of the A-10 (now has 21 men/women
sports)? Is moving to the A-10 even achievable in the next 5
years? Another negative is will this reinforce keeping the
current football coach, to keep "stability" in the transfer to a
new conference? Yet another negative is will SBU leaving be the
beginning of the end for the AE?
POSITIVES: CAA is a stronger conference than AE and that would
certainly be an uptick for SBU athletics. Moreover, if the new
SBU President is endorsing this, this is a major positive for
SBU and its future in sports, and may put to rest the rumors of
SBU going by the way of Hartford (DIII). Silent, but resonating
support for SBU Athletics, from the new chief.
COMMENTS: Assuming that this move to CAA is going to happen, one
cannot help venture to think that the tipping point may have
been the way the SBU baseball team was treated by the
then-acting AE Commissioner. Also, as others have pointed out,
we have perennial athletic cellar dwellars in the AE; time to
associate ourselves with a better brand of athletic competition.
EDIT FROM ORIGINAL POST: FloSports is an atrocious streaming
service. I have subscribed to it every other year when we play
Hofstra at their place in basketball. Streaming cuts out,
reverts back to older parts of game mid-stream, etc. I have
stopped following SBU football for the most part, due to this
crappy (and costly) service. CAA, get your heads out of your
rear, and move to ESPN3/ESPN+.
[/quote]
I don’t know if the exit fee for AE is that high, but surely it
can’t be $1m like CAA. Agreed though that CAA does have active
ADs compared to AE. We need a change. And CAA may be the change
we need.
#Post#: 35134--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: guest410 Date: January 16, 2022, 11:10 am
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[quote author=iBOsbu link=topic=916.msg35133#msg35133
date=1642343887]
[quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=916.msg35130#msg35130
date=1642343389]
Sorry for the re-post, but I posted this in the AE Basketball
thread:
===============================================
Positive/Negatives/Comments on moving to CAA from my vantage
point:
NEGATIVES: It will inevitably cost SBU a lot of money to leave
AE (buy out), and pay for things like re-branding. Is it worth
the $ to move to another one-bid conference, even if it is
stronger than the AE? If we're going to spend all this money to
move to a different conference, would it be more prudent to hold
out for the bigger prize of the A-10 (now has 21 men/women
sports)? Is moving to the A-10 even achievable in the next 5
years? Another negative is will this reinforce keeping the
current football coach, to keep "stability" in the transfer to a
new conference? Yet another negative is will SBU leaving be the
beginning of the end for the AE?
POSITIVES: CAA is a stronger conference than AE and that would
certainly be an uptick for SBU athletics. Moreover, if the new
SBU President is endorsing this, this is a major positive for
SBU and its future in sports, and may put to rest the rumors of
SBU going by the way of Hartford (DIII). Silent, but resonating
support for SBU Athletics, from the new chief.
COMMENTS: Assuming that this move to CAA is going to happen, one
cannot help venture to think that the tipping point may have
been the way the SBU baseball team was treated by the
then-acting AE Commissioner. Also, as others have pointed out,
we have perennial athletic cellar dwellars in the AE; time to
associate ourselves with a better brand of athletic competition.
EDIT FROM ORIGINAL POST: FloSports is an atrocious streaming
service. I have subscribed to it every other year when we play
Hofstra at their place in basketball. Streaming cuts out,
reverts back to older parts of game mid-stream, etc. I have
stopped following SBU football for the most part, due to this
crappy (and costly) service. CAA, get your heads out of your
rear, and move to ESPN3/ESPN+.
[/quote]
I don’t know if the exit fee for AE is that high, but surely it
can’t be $1m like CAA. Agreed though that CAA does have active
ADs compared to AE. We need a change. And CAA may be the change
we need.
[/quote]
SBU will not be paying the exit fee for the America East
#Post#: 35136--------------------------------------------------
Re: CAA all sports???
By: iBOsbu Date: January 16, 2022, 12:59 pm
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