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#Post#: 32381--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: February 27, 2021, 6:50 pm
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true, but i think salty meant an entire team of jucos (or any
transfers for that matter). its the new world of college
sports...
#Post#: 32385--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: guest419
Date: February 28, 2021, 9:04 am
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--- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
>
> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=881.msg32371#msg32371 date=1614459017]
> didnt watch but my take is- the same exact thing that happened
to us last year, did us in this year. selfish play and big
egos, failure to pass or analyze where the high % shots are.
>
> and look at the result- with all the advantages, the
facilities, the scholarships, the talent- and we collapse in the
1st round to an opponent we should rarely lose to.
>
> just substitute last year's player for this one.
>
--- End Quote ---
Completely disagree on the selfishness and ego points. Our guys
needed someone to tell them what to do, put them in a position
to be successful, and hope that they can execute. Ford did not
provide that leadership today, nor did I see much of that all
season. We flowed like molasses on offense.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
[/quote]
Today? He can't coach. He has checked out. The players don't
respect him. That's why everyone left last year. I gave up our
season tickets after the last playoff loss. I had no
expectations for yesterday's game, other than the final outcome.
It was very predictable. He should have been fired before he
got on the bus to come home.
#Post#: 32386--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: guest419
Date: February 28, 2021, 9:27 am
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--- Quote from: SaltySeawolf link ---
>
> If anyone thinks the Portal or JUCO transfers is the answer,
you are flat out wrong. Those kids ALL have baggage. The
answer is to work your ass off recruiting the right high school
kids and get them into the program. I don't wanna hear that it
won't work. It's how the two best teams in the league have done
it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Step back and look at this program over the past three years.
Look at the players who have left, especially last year. Unheard
of. Look at the results of this coach. Why would ANYONE want to
come here, if they're halfway decent? It's long been
established that Geno is not the guy. The problem starts with
him. It ends with him. He conned his way into this job.
Embarrassing.
#Post#: 32387--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: sbu1991
Date: February 28, 2021, 9:43 am
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--- Quote from: BarryGotAGrip link ---
>
> [quote author=SaltySeawolf link=topic=881.msg32379#msg32379
date=1614471902]
> If anyone thinks the Portal or JUCO transfers is the answer,
you are flat out wrong. Those kids ALL have baggage. The
answer is to work your ass off recruiting the right high school
kids and get them into the program. I don't wanna hear that it
won't work. It's how the two best teams in the league have done
it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Step back and look at this program over the past three years.
Look at the players who have left, especially last year. Unheard
of. Look at the results of this coach. Why would ANYONE want to
come here, if they're halfway decent? It's long been
established that Geno is not the guy. The problem starts with
him. It ends with him. He conned his way into this job.
Embarrassing.
[/quote]
Sadly, I agree. It wasn't that long ago that SB was getting a
small measure of national recognition as a team worthy of top 50
discussion. Now, they are one of the worst programs in the
country. Since Coach P, SB is 2-5 in AE conference tournament
play, which includes two of the worst losses in the program's
history.
#Post#: 32388--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: February 28, 2021, 11:35 am
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Although I agree with these Geno sentiments, nothing will
happen. SBU cannot afford his buyout in these economic times.
On a different note, I wonder if Garcia, Olaniyi, Foreman,
Latimer, and Otchere are second-guessing their decisions.
Unless their respective schools somehow win their conference
tournaments outright, none of them with make the ncaa tournament
(GA may have a shot at NIT). Sure, they played against better
competition, but they played in front of no fans, and forfeited
a chance to do something special at SBU (although their track
record in that regard would indicate otherwise).
#Post#: 32389--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: February 28, 2021, 12:40 pm
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great points.
this year has been a disappointment by any measure. you could
see this team was out of gas a month ago. i think we finished
losing something like 10 of 13.
i just cant get away from analytics. did we do any? do we look
at stats*? if yes, why no adjustment. if no, why no.
there's a middle ground here- we did look, and we did adjust,
but the players weren't disciplined enough to adhere to the
adjustments.
(*we must have, considering ford's recent comments on shooting)
#Post#: 32391--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: February 28, 2021, 12:55 pm
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--- Quote from: BarryGotAGrip link ---
>
> [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=881.msg32375#msg32375
date=1614460196]
> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=881.msg32371#msg32371 date=1614459017]
> didnt watch but my take is- the same exact thing that happened
to us last year, did us in this year. selfish play and big
egos, failure to pass or analyze where the high % shots are.
>
> and look at the result- with all the advantages, the
facilities, the scholarships, the talent- and we collapse in the
1st round to an opponent we should rarely lose to.
>
> just substitute last year's player for this one.
>
--- End Quote ---
Completely disagree on the selfishness and ego points. Our guys
needed someone to tell them what to do, put them in a position
to be successful, and hope that they can execute. Ford did not
provide that leadership today, nor did I see much of that all
season. We flowed like molasses on offense.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
[/quote]
Today? He can't coach. He has checked out. The players don't
respect him. That's why everyone left last year. I gave up our
season tickets after the last playoff loss. I had no
expectations for yesterday's game, other than the final outcome.
It was very predictable. He should have been fired before he
got on the bus to come home.
[/quote]
Agreed. I feel the same as you. Ford slithered his way into
being the HC because of Boals. But he is no Boals. I will not
renew my season tickets for BB until Ford is gone. His track
record at Akron is enough to see, he is a hack and not a HC.
Stony Brook is and will continue to fall back into the dark
ages. So sad considering the advancements they made under the
former Athletic Director. Speaking of. SH needs to go also. All
talk, no action..
#Post#: 32392--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: guest419
Date: February 28, 2021, 1:35 pm
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--- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
>
> Although I agree with these Geno sentiments, nothing will
happen. SBU cannot afford his buyout in these economic times.
>
> On a different note, I wonder if Garcia, Olaniyi, Foreman,
Latimer, and Otchere are second-guessing their decisions.
Unless their respective schools somehow win their conference
tournaments outright, none of them with make the ncaa tournament
(GA may have a shot at NIT). Sure, they played against better
competition, but they played in front of no fans, and forfeited
a chance to do something special at SBU (although their track
record in that regard would indicate otherwise).
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm in touch with two of them, regularly. They do not regret
their decision. They left because of the HC. They are much
happier, and they are sad at what the program here, has become.
#Post#: 32393--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: guest419
Date: February 28, 2021, 1:38 pm
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--- Quote from: sbu1991 link ---
>
> [quote author=BarryGotAGrip link=topic=881.msg32386#msg32386
date=1614526065]
> [quote author=SaltySeawolf link=topic=881.msg32379#msg32379
date=1614471902]
> If anyone thinks the Portal or JUCO transfers is the answer,
you are flat out wrong. Those kids ALL have baggage. The
answer is to work your ass off recruiting the right high school
kids and get them into the program. I don't wanna hear that it
won't work. It's how the two best teams in the league have done
it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Step back and look at this program over the past three years.
Look at the players who have left, especially last year. Unheard
of. Look at the results of this coach. Why would ANYONE want to
come here, if they're halfway decent? It's long been
established that Geno is not the guy. The problem starts with
him. It ends with him. He conned his way into this job.
Embarrassing.
[/quote]
Administrators in that department don't even speak with season
ticket holders who sit opposite the bench. For years, they walk
in, cross the court by the band, under the basket. They can't
raise money. Season ticket sales are down, annually. The
program is horrible. They are out of touch with the fanbase,
and I don't even think they care.
Sadly, I agree. It wasn't that long ago that SB was getting a
small measure of national recognition as a team worthy of top 50
discussion. Now, they are one of the worst programs in the
country. Since Coach P, SB is 2-5 in AE conference tournament
play, which includes two of the worst losses in the program's
history.
[/quote]
#Post#: 32394--------------------------------------------------
Re: Game 23: vs. UMass Lowell (UNH), 2/27, 1pm
DIR By: guest419
Date: February 28, 2021, 2:09 pm
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=BarryGotAGrip link=topic=881.msg32385#msg32385
date=1614524642]
> [quote author=Checkmate link=topic=881.msg32375#msg32375
date=1614460196]
> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=881.msg32371#msg32371 date=1614459017]
> didnt watch but my take is- the same exact thing that happened
to us last year, did us in this year. selfish play and big
egos, failure to pass or analyze where the high % shots are.
>
> and look at the result- with all the advantages, the
facilities, the scholarships, the talent- and we collapse in the
1st round to an opponent we should rarely lose to.
>
> just substitute last year's player for this one.
>
--- End Quote ---
Completely disagree on the selfishness and ego points. Our guys
needed someone to tell them what to do, put them in a position
to be successful, and hope that they can execute. Ford did not
provide that leadership today, nor did I see much of that all
season. We flowed like molasses on offense.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
[/quote]
Today? He can't coach. He has checked out. The players don't
respect him. That's why everyone left last year. I gave up our
season tickets after the last playoff loss. I had no
expectations for yesterday's game, other than the final outcome.
It was very predictable. He should have been fired before he
got on the bus to come home.
[/quote]
Agreed. I feel the same as you. Ford slithered his way into
being the HC because of Boals. But he is no Boals. I will not
renew my season tickets for BB until Ford is gone. His track
record at Akron is enough to see, he is a hack and not a HC.
Stony Brook is and will continue to fall back into the dark
ages. So sad considering the advancements they made under the
former Athletic Director. Speaking of. SH needs to go also. All
talk, no action..
[/quote]
Did you see SH's tweet this afternoon, finally talking about
yesterday? Fantasy land. Here it is: Tomorrow = a new day, a
new week, a new month and a new opportunity. No one said this
was going to be easy but we wouldn’t have it any other way! We
will continue moving forward with positivity and purpose.
Everything is right in front of us so let’s get it
@SBAthletics
!
Maybe the new president will realize how horrible things are
over there and make some changes. If they want to get fans back
they have too.
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