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Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: October 13, 2020, 9:30 am
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It's coming, everybody. If you thought this year was bad, wait
until this goes through. Anybody who has even a decent year for
us could depart penalty-free. I have to think at least half the
all-conference and all-freshman teams will leave for other
opportunities.
HTML https://www.si.com/college/2020/10/13/ncaa-proposal-transfer-immediate-eligibility
I have to believe that if this was enacted immediately, there's
a good chance we'd have lost Mo Gueye too.
#Post#: 30971--------------------------------------------------
Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: Chairman of the Board
Date: October 13, 2020, 10:01 am
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thanks for sharing- while i largely agree- is there any angle
where this actually helps us?
i think likely no, we'll just shuffle kids in and out faster,
not worrying about development, or a cohesive locker room, etc.
the rich get richer here. it's already been happening.
obviously good for the athletes but overall bad for the sport
and the fan.
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Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: October 13, 2020, 1:51 pm
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
>
> thanks for sharing- while i largely agree- is there any angle
where this actually helps us?
>
> i think likely no, we'll just shuffle kids in and out faster,
not worrying about development, or a cohesive locker room, etc.
the rich get richer here. it's already been happening.
>
> obviously good for the athletes but overall bad for the sport
and the fan.
>
--- End Quote ---
The only way around this is to compete for a better conference.
The AE is the toilet bowl of all conferences. Move up to a real
mid major conference like the A10 for BB, then then SB would be
on the receiving side, not the losing side.
#Post#: 30980--------------------------------------------------
Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: October 15, 2020, 3:36 pm
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=860.msg30971#msg30971 date=1602601266]
> thanks for sharing- while i largely agree- is there any angle
where this actually helps us?
>
> i think likely no, we'll just shuffle kids in and out faster,
not worrying about development, or a cohesive locker room, etc.
the rich get richer here. it's already been happening.
>
> obviously good for the athletes but overall bad for the sport
and the fan.
>
--- End Quote ---
The only way around this is to compete for a better conference.
The AE is the toilet bowl of all conferences. Move up to a real
mid major conference like the A10 for BB, then then SB would be
on the receiving side, not the losing side.
[/quote]
I agree completely. While this might suck for our program, we
have no real right to keep a kid here if they have an
opportunity elsewhere. Upgrading conferences truly is the only
way around this for SBU.
All sights need to be set on the A10 in my opinion. It lets us
keep football right where it currently is while being a giant
step up otherwise.
#Post#: 30981--------------------------------------------------
Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: sbufan
Date: October 15, 2020, 4:44 pm
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--- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
>
> thanks for sharing- while i largely agree- is there any angle
where this actually helps us?
>
> i think likely no, we'll just shuffle kids in and out faster,
not worrying about development, or a cohesive locker room, etc.
the rich get richer here. it's already been happening.
>
> obviously good for the athletes but overall bad for the sport
and the fan.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think there will be more transferring down too. Each school
still only has 13 scholarships and no one wants to sit on the
bench.
I wonder if the best teams and coaches will be the ones that can
keep rosters stable. Kind of like how Villanova has been the
best program of the last 10 years because kids stayed and
learned the system.
#Post#: 30984--------------------------------------------------
Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: October 16, 2020, 1:48 am
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--- Quote from: sbufan link ---
>
> [quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=860.msg30971#msg30971 date=1602601266]
> thanks for sharing- while i largely agree- is there any angle
where this actually helps us?
>
> i think likely no, we'll just shuffle kids in and out faster,
not worrying about development, or a cohesive locker room, etc.
the rich get richer here. it's already been happening.
>
> obviously good for the athletes but overall bad for the sport
and the fan.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think there will be more transferring down too. Each school
still only has 13 scholarships and no one wants to sit on the
bench.
I wonder if the best teams and coaches will be the ones that can
keep rosters stable. Kind of like how Villanova has been the
best program of the last 10 years because kids stayed and
learned the system.
[/quote]
I think the best programs will be unaffected. They'll have
multiple players who leave for the NBA after a year or two. No
change for them.
#Post#: 30996--------------------------------------------------
Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: Checkmate
Date: October 19, 2020, 1:11 pm
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If high-major or mid-major kids don't get much burn after their
freshman seasons, we may be a place for people to drop down too.
The year wait might have been a deterrent before. I doubt that
premier talent like Zed Key or Andre Curbelo would drop this
far, but Policelli's a great example. This is a great spot for
him.
Loyalty was pretty much shot anyway in terms of scholarships,
but now it definitely is. If you want to stay, you gotta earn
your keep – both sides.
#Post#: 31016--------------------------------------------------
Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: October 22, 2020, 5:33 am
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Clearly, this will have a "the-rich-get-richer, and the
poor-get-poorer" effect. SBU clearly a loser in this
environment. Even a move to A-10 will not stop the bleeding.
Think about it; every kid will try to get in the best program
possible, and it will become a feeding ground for the best
conferences. Great for the college athlete, horrible for the
mid-majors. The ascension of mid-majors in college basketball
will officially be done.
#Post#: 31017--------------------------------------------------
Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: October 22, 2020, 5:53 am
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--- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
>
> Clearly, this will have a "the-rich-get-richer, and the
poor-get-poorer" effect. SBU clearly a loser in this
environment. Even a move to A-10 will not stop the bleeding.
Think about it; every kid will try to get in the best program
possible, and it will become a feeding ground for the best
conferences. Great for the college athlete, horrible for the
mid-majors. The ascension of mid-majors in college basketball
will officially be done.
>
--- End Quote ---
Agreed. Mid majors for Basketball will be punished and the same
for the FCS football programs. This was a horrible decision by
the NCAA. I think it is all part of this diversity movement that
came about this year. People need to stop being so afraid of
others and get their heads out of their ass. Our nation is
falling apart and snowflakes are taking over. Terrible...
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