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#Post#: 31810--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: Wolffan Date: January 2, 2021, 2:55 pm
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[quote author=AirTurn link=topic=852.msg31809#msg31809
date=1609604747]
[quote author=Wolffan link=topic=852.msg31803#msg31803
date=1609518187]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=852.msg31802#msg31802
date=1609501097]
[quote author=AirTurn link=topic=852.msg31801#msg31801
date=1609458374]
[quote author=Campi47 link=topic=852.msg31799#msg31799
date=1609451191]
SBU got a PK/Punter today as Archbishop Stepinac’s Enda Kirby
committed he also was offered a walk-on at Buffalo
[/quote]
I heard about the Buffalo offer from someone there, both kinda
shocked he chose SBU. That makes two kickers in this year's
class.
[/quote]
SB still needs a real FBS QB. Project QB is a waste of time. But
this won't ever happen under our current leadership in this
program.
[/quote]
Always thought our best bet was to nab a talented NY/NJ guy
buried on the depth chart FBS elsewhere who wants to come home.
Somebody like BC's Matt Valecce (I don't know if he is
eyeballing a transfer but he is completely buried on the depth
chart - next year will be even more so, we've got BC kids
before, he is pro style FWIW , and it looks like he's got three
years eligibility
remaining.....
HTML https://247sports.com/Player/Matt-Valecce-92657/TimelineEvents/?Page=1)
[/quote]
BC, at seasons end, had seven QB's on the roster. Two were
walk-ons, four were three-star or better recruits, and one was
no stars but still a scholly player. Sam Johnson III, who coming
out of HS held over 15 FBS offers including four from BIG TEN
teams, is currently in the portal. He entered roughly 10 days
ago. Two more 3-star QB's signed in the class of '21. One is a
PWO, no idea why. The kid held an offer from Ohio State but
walked to go to BC and guess since they'll have too many QB's on
scholarship, told him he needs to wait for one. Wouldn't be
surprised if another 1-2 QB's decide to transfer out in the
coming months.
[/quote]
And the incumbent starter (Jurkovich) who came over from Notre
Dame after playing in several games and then losing a close
competition to Ian Book, really lit it up for BC this year, is a
favorite of the coach, and looks to be a lock at starter [if he
stays healthy and doesn't go pro] for the next three (!) years.
And current #2 Grosel (who started for BC most of 2019) did not
burn a year this year so he has two years left too. Crazy
logjam (I'm sure it is the case at all P5s - and doubtlessly
worse with all kids retaining a Covid year - but when you look
at a big school school the number of talented QBs riding the
pines it is stunning.). Agree BC will see an exit of at least
one or two more QBs.
(I apologize in advance for meandering to BC...but I do think it
could be a QB source for us at some point as it has been for
other positions in the recent past.)
#Post#: 31811--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: guest369 Date: January 2, 2021, 3:11 pm
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Jordan Gowins was a Boston College transfer, and turned out to
be very useful for us.
#Post#: 31812--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: guest410 Date: January 2, 2021, 3:26 pm
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[quote author=Wolffan link=topic=852.msg31810#msg31810
date=1609620950]
[quote author=AirTurn link=topic=852.msg31809#msg31809
date=1609604747]
[quote author=Wolffan link=topic=852.msg31803#msg31803
date=1609518187]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=852.msg31802#msg31802
date=1609501097]
[quote author=AirTurn link=topic=852.msg31801#msg31801
date=1609458374]
[quote author=Campi47 link=topic=852.msg31799#msg31799
date=1609451191]
SBU got a PK/Punter today as Archbishop Stepinac’s Enda Kirby
committed he also was offered a walk-on at Buffalo
[/quote]
I heard about the Buffalo offer from someone there, both kinda
shocked he chose SBU. That makes two kickers in this year's
class.
[/quote]
SB still needs a real FBS QB. Project QB is a waste of time. But
this won't ever happen under our current leadership in this
program.
[/quote]
Always thought our best bet was to nab a talented NY/NJ guy
buried on the depth chart FBS elsewhere who wants to come home.
Somebody like BC's Matt Valecce (I don't know if he is
eyeballing a transfer but he is completely buried on the depth
chart - next year will be even more so, we've got BC kids
before, he is pro style FWIW , and it looks like he's got three
years eligibility
remaining.....
HTML https://247sports.com/Player/Matt-Valecce-92657/TimelineEvents/?Page=1)
[/quote]
BC, at seasons end, had seven QB's on the roster. Two were
walk-ons, four were three-star or better recruits, and one was
no stars but still a scholly player. Sam Johnson III, who coming
out of HS held over 15 FBS offers including four from BIG TEN
teams, is currently in the portal. He entered roughly 10 days
ago. Two more 3-star QB's signed in the class of '21. One is a
PWO, no idea why. The kid held an offer from Ohio State but
walked to go to BC and guess since they'll have too many QB's on
scholarship, told him he needs to wait for one. Wouldn't be
surprised if another 1-2 QB's decide to transfer out in the
coming months.
[/quote]
And the incumbent starter (Jurkovich) who came over from Notre
Dame after playing in several games and then losing a close
competition to Ian Book, really lit it up for BC this year, is a
favorite of the coach, and looks to be a lock at starter [if he
stays healthy and doesn't go pro] for the next three (!) years.
And current #2 Grosel (who started for BC most of 2019) did not
burn a year this year so he has two years left too. Crazy
logjam (I'm sure it is the case at all P5s - and doubtlessly
worse with all kids retaining a Covid year - but when you look
at a big school school the number of talented QBs riding the
pines it is stunning.). Agree BC will see an exit of at least
one or two more QBs.
(I apologize in advance for meandering to BC...but I do think it
could be a QB source for us at some point as it has been for
other positions in the recent past.)
[/quote]
I very much agree. FCS teams should take full advantage of the
retaining year of eligibility players who end up getting pushed
deer down the depth chart at FBS schools.
#Post#: 31814--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: Campi47 Date: January 2, 2021, 6:32 pm
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I’m hearing that the NCAA has some interesting things that they
plan on voting sometime soon and if they approve them it would
effect how players transfer. Currently if a player is say on
Alabama and wants to transfer to say Arkansas that player would
have to sit out a year well if the changes go through players
will no longer have to do that and could then play right away
this could effect players going to the FCS when they can go
directly to a FBS school without sitting out. The same would be
true with FCS players like an SBU player going to JMU and not
have to sit out a year. Also if a player goes to a lower
division and decides to transfer to a higher division they would
not have to wait a year to play.
These are just a couple of things I got this from a few
different Colleges and they believe that this and other things
have a good chance of being passed
#Post#: 31815--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: guest410 Date: January 2, 2021, 7:43 pm
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[quote author=Campi47 link=topic=852.msg31814#msg31814
date=1609633960]
I’m hearing that the NCAA has some interesting things that they
plan on voting sometime soon and if they approve them it would
effect how players transfer. Currently if a player is say on
Alabama and wants to transfer to say Arkansas that player would
have to sit out a year well if the changes go through players
will no longer have to do that and could then play right away
this could effect players going to the FCS when they can go
directly to a FBS school without sitting out. The same would be
true with FCS players like an SBU player going to JMU and not
have to sit out a year. Also if a player goes to a lower
division and decides to transfer to a higher division they would
not have to wait a year to play.
These are just a couple of things I got this from a few
different Colleges and they believe that this and other things
have a good chance of being passed
[/quote]
It's in the works. Will having bigger consequences in football,
but basketball has seen the most chatter on a one-time transfer
exception for a person's collegiate career.
#Post#: 31817--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: Hammertime Date: January 3, 2021, 6:01 am
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[quote author=Campi47 link=topic=852.msg31814#msg31814
date=1609633960]
I’m hearing that the NCAA has some interesting things that they
plan on voting sometime soon and if they approve them it would
effect how players transfer. Currently if a player is say on
Alabama and wants to transfer to say Arkansas that player would
have to sit out a year well if the changes go through players
will no longer have to do that and could then play right away
this could effect players going to the FCS when they can go
directly to a FBS school without sitting out. The same would be
true with FCS players like an SBU player going to JMU and not
have to sit out a year. Also if a player goes to a lower
division and decides to transfer to a higher division they would
not have to wait a year to play.
These are just a couple of things I got this from a few
different Colleges and they believe that this and other things
have a good chance of being passed
[/quote]
FCS schools are going to get killed by losing good players to
the FBS. The same thing with not getting FBS transfers. The only
way out of this is to go to FBS. I don't see SBU doing this in
our lifetime, but I do see a ton of FCS schools looking to make
that jump.
This is going to change the landscape of the FBS. The power 5
will not be affected by this change at all. However, I can see
the G5 turning into the G6,7,8 9. etc... No Athlete is going to
want t play in the FCS anymore when they will eventually have an
opportunity to play in the FBS, even if it only a G5 conference.
Thoughts??????
#Post#: 31818--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: guest410 Date: January 3, 2021, 12:13 pm
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[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=852.msg31817#msg31817
date=1609675276]
[quote author=Campi47 link=topic=852.msg31814#msg31814
date=1609633960]
I’m hearing that the NCAA has some interesting things that they
plan on voting sometime soon and if they approve them it would
effect how players transfer. Currently if a player is say on
Alabama and wants to transfer to say Arkansas that player would
have to sit out a year well if the changes go through players
will no longer have to do that and could then play right away
this could effect players going to the FCS when they can go
directly to a FBS school without sitting out. The same would be
true with FCS players like an SBU player going to JMU and not
have to sit out a year. Also if a player goes to a lower
division and decides to transfer to a higher division they would
not have to wait a year to play.
These are just a couple of things I got this from a few
different Colleges and they believe that this and other things
have a good chance of being passed
[/quote]
FCS schools are going to get killed by losing good players to
the FBS. The same thing with not getting FBS transfers. The only
way out of this is to go to FBS. I don't see SBU doing this in
our lifetime, but I do see a ton of FCS schools looking to make
that jump.
This is going to change the landscape of the FBS. The power 5
will not be affected by this change at all. However, I can see
the G5 turning into the G6,7,8 9. etc... No Athlete is going to
want t play in the FCS anymore when they will eventually have an
opportunity to play in the FBS, even if it only a G5 conference.
Thoughts??????
[/quote]
FCS players already get killed losing grad transfers to FBS, the
introduction of this rule would demolish the FCS for two
reasons. Players who have a great season could then enter the
portal, gauge the interest from FBS teams if one they like
bites, boom, gone. At the same time, FBS players would no longer
drop to FCS in hopes of being able to play right away. Now some
would still move down in hopes of having a bigger impact on a
team, but the one-time transfer would be terrible for CFB fans.
#Post#: 31819--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: Hammertime Date: January 4, 2021, 4:12 am
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[quote author=AirTurn link=topic=852.msg31818#msg31818
date=1609697592]
[quote author=Hammertime link=topic=852.msg31817#msg31817
date=1609675276]
[quote author=Campi47 link=topic=852.msg31814#msg31814
date=1609633960]
I’m hearing that the NCAA has some interesting things that they
plan on voting sometime soon and if they approve them it would
effect how players transfer. Currently if a player is say on
Alabama and wants to transfer to say Arkansas that player would
have to sit out a year well if the changes go through players
will no longer have to do that and could then play right away
this could effect players going to the FCS when they can go
directly to a FBS school without sitting out. The same would be
true with FCS players like an SBU player going to JMU and not
have to sit out a year. Also if a player goes to a lower
division and decides to transfer to a higher division they would
not have to wait a year to play.
These are just a couple of things I got this from a few
different Colleges and they believe that this and other things
have a good chance of being passed
[/quote]
FCS schools are going to get killed by losing good players to
the FBS. The same thing with not getting FBS transfers. The only
way out of this is to go to FBS. I don't see SBU doing this in
our lifetime, but I do see a ton of FCS schools looking to make
that jump.
This is going to change the landscape of the FBS. The power 5
will not be affected by this change at all. However, I can see
the G5 turning into the G6,7,8 9. etc... No Athlete is going to
want t play in the FCS anymore when they will eventually have an
opportunity to play in the FBS, even if it only a G5 conference.
Thoughts??????
[/quote]
FCS players already get killed losing grad transfers to FBS, the
introduction of this rule would demolish the FCS for two
reasons. Players who have a great season could then enter the
portal, gauge the interest from FBS teams if one they like
bites, boom, gone. At the same time, FBS players would no longer
drop to FCS in hopes of being able to play right away. Now some
would still move down in hopes of having a bigger impact on a
team, but the one-time transfer would be terrible for CFB fans.
[/quote]
That is correct. Football minded FCS schools need to move up to
the FBS at all cost if they want to attract good athletes going
forward. But this could only happen if the G5 expands and more
FBS conferences are made.
If bottom-dweller FCS schools want to stay small and still have
football as part of their athletics, that's fine. They should
stay in the FCS. But if the better FCS schools want to improve
and move up and compete, then there need to be more FBS
conferences for them to move into. I feel like the Goal Post was
just moved back another 20 yards for all FCS schools.
#Post#: 31820--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: Campi47 Date: January 4, 2021, 5:54 am
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One thing I can tell you is SBU spends a lot of money on
recruiting and the reason they offer all these 3 Star players is
to build a relationship with the kid so if in the event they
decide to transfer they will remember how hard SBU came after
him in the onset and reach out.
Another thing there are really good HS Football Players that to
get on the field faster go DII/DIII they can now do that and
then reach out to an FCS Program and transfer up to them.
One last thing I believe the yearly budget for FBS is $5M while
FCS is $2M and that doesn’t include Coaches Salaries.
#Post#: 31821--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2021 Commitments
By: Hammertime Date: January 4, 2021, 6:59 am
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[quote author=Campi47 link=topic=852.msg31820#msg31820
date=1609761298]
One thing I can tell you is SBU spends a lot of money on
recruiting and the reason they offer all these 3 Star players is
to build a relationship with the kid so if in the event they
decide to transfer they will remember how hard SBU came after
him in the onset and reach out.
Another thing there are really good HS Football Players that to
get on the field faster go DII/DIII they can now do that and
then reach out to an FCS Program and transfer up to them.
One last thing I believe the yearly budget for FBS is $5M while
FCS is $2M and that doesn’t include Coaches Salaries.
[/quote]
When you say "Yearly budget for FBS" Like what. Money that
institutions have to give to the NCAA?? Exactly what do they do
with money for the schools in return
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