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#Post#: 35192--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: Accelerator
Date: January 19, 2022, 6:34 pm
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If SBU announces it, they could be banned from postseason play,
so I don’t blame them for being quiet.
#Post#: 35193--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: January 19, 2022, 6:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Accelerator link ---
>
> If SBU announces it, they could be banned from postseason
play, so I don’t blame them for being quiet.
>
--- End Quote ---
A few articles I’ve been reading are all saying that news should
break in a few weeks.
#Post#: 35194--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: Accelerator
Date: January 19, 2022, 6:54 pm
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=Accelerator link=topic=850.msg35192#msg35192
date=1642638890]
> If SBU announces it, they could be banned from postseason
play, so I don’t blame them for being quiet.
>
--- End Quote ---
A few articles I’ve been reading are all saying that news should
break in a few weeks.
[/quote]
Maybe the AE won't be as petty as the CAA, but the CAA blocked
James Madison from all sports' automatic bid because they left
for the Sun Belt. Of course, then it came out that JMU voted for
that rule every time when other teams left the CAA, so it's hard
to feel too bad for him. I don't know what the policy is for the
AE, because Boston University was the only team that has "left"
the AE to another Division I conference recently.
#Post#: 35213--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: January 20, 2022, 12:45 pm
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--- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
>
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=850.msg35185#msg35185
date=1642627670]
> I find it to be so refreshing and a breath of fresh air that
this Univerity is so transparent to season ticket holders and
the community in regards to this move from the AE to the CAA.
>
> What a total horshit that we have to get information from
forums and other universities about what is going on with this
school. I am getting a little pissed off and I am about to call
it quits.
>
--- End Quote ---
Disagree. I think this is pretty much how every conference
change unfolds—news gets it before the school is ready to unveil
formally. It’s almost like a soft launch.
Unless it’s Newsday. They’ll cover it last.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
[/quote]
I agree, this is totally normal. It's all kept under wraps until
it's time for the official announcement. The whole Texas and
Oklahoma to the SEC thing was the same way. Blindsided a lot of
people.
The pacing of this is normal too. Back in 2010-13 it was like
teams were changing conferences within a week of getting word.
This move is much better I think.
#Post#: 35216--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: OldSeawolf
Date: January 20, 2022, 12:58 pm
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Newsday posted this story on us moving over to CAA yesterday.
Here's the text, for those who don't subscribe:
===============================================================================
By Roger Rubin
roger.rubin@newsday.com @rogrubin
Updated January 19, 2022 8:32 PM
There already is a simmering Long Island men’s basketball
rivalry between Stony Brook and Hofstra. Prepare for the heat to
get turned up.
Stony Brook is involved in conversations and negotiations to
leave the America East Conference and join the Colonial Athletic
Association, where Hofstra competes. An announcement could come
as soon as next week. The transition to the CAA could start as
soon as the next school year.
"We have been in discussions with the CAA," Stony Brook athletic
director Shawn Heilbron said in a text message.
Stony Brook’s football program already competes in the
formidable CAA as part of the Football Champion Subdivision,
where several teams annually make the NCAA playoffs. However,
its other teams compete in the America East.
According to published reports, Stony Brook is only one piece of
the puzzle. The CAA also is looking to bring on Monmouth from
the Metro Atlantic and Hampton from the Big South.
The move would be geared largely toward men’s basketball. Other
schools could be in play, among them Albany of the America East
and Iona of the Metro Atlantic. To add coach Rick Pitino’s Gaels
would be considered an impressive addition.
The America East and the Colonial have rarely gotten more than
its conference champion into the lucrative NCAA men’s basketball
tournament.
Get stories, photos and videos about your favorite New York
teams in your inbox every morning.
In 2006 the George Mason team that made the run to the Final
Four was an at-large bid after it lost to Hofstra in the CAA
semifinal. UNC Wilmington won the final and got the automatic
bid.
The CAA appears to be making a bid to become more of a multi-bid
conference; its television broadcast rights could be
considerably more valuable if it is viewed as more than a
one-bid conference.
It does not appear Hofstra has voiced resistance to the addition
of another Long Island school. CAA commissioner Joe D’Antonio
told Newsday on Wednesday night "Hofstra has been very
supportive of plans for conference expansion."
Hofstra athletic director Rick Cole Jr. said, "We have a deep
commitment to our conference and we are enthusiastic about
anything that is in its best interests."
The CAA has a contract to hold its men’s basketball tournament
in Washington for the next two seasons. With the addition of New
York area schools, the conference could be eyeing a New York
venue for its premier event, including the new UBS Arena, where
the Islanders play and where St. John’s already has played a
men’s basketball game.
The Colonial’s move is not yet complete, although an
announcement may be forthcoming. The addition of other schools
with the potential for a high profile — Pitino’s Gaels play
games at Madison Square Garden — could loom as very attractive.
Should Hampton be a part of the expansion, it would have to
commit considerable resources to upgrading it football program.
The Pirates last played in an NCAA football tournament in 2006.
#Post#: 35217--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: January 20, 2022, 1:03 pm
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--- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
>
> Newsday posted this story on us moving over to CAA yesterday.
Here's the text, for those who don't subscribe:
>
===============================================================================
>
>
> By Roger Rubin
> roger.rubin@newsday.com @rogrubin
> Updated January 19, 2022 8:32 PM
>
> There already is a simmering Long Island men’s basketball
rivalry between Stony Brook and Hofstra. Prepare for the heat to
get turned up.
>
> Stony Brook is involved in conversations and negotiations to
leave the America East Conference and join the Colonial Athletic
Association, where Hofstra competes. An announcement could come
as soon as next week. The transition to the CAA could start as
soon as the next school year.
>
> "We have been in discussions with the CAA," Stony Brook
athletic director Shawn Heilbron said in a text message.
>
> Stony Brook’s football program already competes in the
formidable CAA as part of the Football Champion Subdivision,
where several teams annually make the NCAA playoffs. However,
its other teams compete in the America East.
>
> According to published reports, Stony Brook is only one piece
of the puzzle. The CAA also is looking to bring on Monmouth from
the Metro Atlantic and Hampton from the Big South.
>
> The move would be geared largely toward men’s basketball.
Other schools could be in play, among them Albany of the America
East and Iona of the Metro Atlantic. To add coach Rick Pitino’s
Gaels would be considered an impressive addition.
>
> The America East and the Colonial have rarely gotten more than
its conference champion into the lucrative NCAA men’s basketball
tournament.
> Get stories, photos and videos about your favorite New York
teams in your inbox every morning.
>
> In 2006 the George Mason team that made the run to the Final
Four was an at-large bid after it lost to Hofstra in the CAA
semifinal. UNC Wilmington won the final and got the automatic
bid.
>
> The CAA appears to be making a bid to become more of a
multi-bid conference; its television broadcast rights could be
considerably more valuable if it is viewed as more than a
one-bid conference.
>
> It does not appear Hofstra has voiced resistance to the
addition of another Long Island school. CAA commissioner Joe
D’Antonio told Newsday on Wednesday night "Hofstra has been very
supportive of plans for conference expansion."
>
> Hofstra athletic director Rick Cole Jr. said, "We have a deep
commitment to our conference and we are enthusiastic about
anything that is in its best interests."
>
> The CAA has a contract to hold its men’s basketball tournament
in Washington for the next two seasons. With the addition of New
York area schools, the conference could be eyeing a New York
venue for its premier event, including the new UBS Arena, where
the Islanders play and where St. John’s already has played a
men’s basketball game.
>
> The Colonial’s move is not yet complete, although an
announcement may be forthcoming. The addition of other schools
with the potential for a high profile — Pitino’s Gaels play
games at Madison Square Garden — could loom as very attractive.
>
> Should Hampton be a part of the expansion, it would have to
commit considerable resources to upgrading it football program.
The Pirates last played in an NCAA football tournament in 2006.
>
--- End Quote ---
I read that this morning and I also posted this week asking the
question. Why do we have to get our news from outside sources
all the time and never from Stony Brook University first? This
school is always so secretive about posting news to the public
#Post#: 35219--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: guest410
Date: January 20, 2022, 1:16 pm
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--- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
>
> [quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=850.msg35216#msg35216
date=1642705104]
> Newsday posted this story on us moving over to CAA yesterday.
Here's the text, for those who don't subscribe:
>
===============================================================================
>
>
> By Roger Rubin
> roger.rubin@newsday.com @rogrubin
> Updated January 19, 2022 8:32 PM
>
> There already is a simmering Long Island men’s basketball
rivalry between Stony Brook and Hofstra. Prepare for the heat to
get turned up.
>
> Stony Brook is involved in conversations and negotiations to
leave the America East Conference and join the Colonial Athletic
Association, where Hofstra competes. An announcement could come
as soon as next week. The transition to the CAA could start as
soon as the next school year.
>
> "We have been in discussions with the CAA," Stony Brook
athletic director Shawn Heilbron said in a text message.
>
> Stony Brook’s football program already competes in the
formidable CAA as part of the Football Champion Subdivision,
where several teams annually make the NCAA playoffs. However,
its other teams compete in the America East.
>
> According to published reports, Stony Brook is only one piece
of the puzzle. The CAA also is looking to bring on Monmouth from
the Metro Atlantic and Hampton from the Big South.
>
> The move would be geared largely toward men’s basketball.
Other schools could be in play, among them Albany of the America
East and Iona of the Metro Atlantic. To add coach Rick Pitino’s
Gaels would be considered an impressive addition.
>
> The America East and the Colonial have rarely gotten more than
its conference champion into the lucrative NCAA men’s basketball
tournament.
> Get stories, photos and videos about your favorite New York
teams in your inbox every morning.
>
> In 2006 the George Mason team that made the run to the Final
Four was an at-large bid after it lost to Hofstra in the CAA
semifinal. UNC Wilmington won the final and got the automatic
bid.
>
> The CAA appears to be making a bid to become more of a
multi-bid conference; its television broadcast rights could be
considerably more valuable if it is viewed as more than a
one-bid conference.
>
> It does not appear Hofstra has voiced resistance to the
addition of another Long Island school. CAA commissioner Joe
D’Antonio told Newsday on Wednesday night "Hofstra has been very
supportive of plans for conference expansion."
>
> Hofstra athletic director Rick Cole Jr. said, "We have a deep
commitment to our conference and we are enthusiastic about
anything that is in its best interests."
>
> The CAA has a contract to hold its men’s basketball tournament
in Washington for the next two seasons. With the addition of New
York area schools, the conference could be eyeing a New York
venue for its premier event, including the new UBS Arena, where
the Islanders play and where St. John’s already has played a
men’s basketball game.
>
> The Colonial’s move is not yet complete, although an
announcement may be forthcoming. The addition of other schools
with the potential for a high profile — Pitino’s Gaels play
games at Madison Square Garden — could loom as very attractive.
>
> Should Hampton be a part of the expansion, it would have to
commit considerable resources to upgrading it football program.
The Pirates last played in an NCAA football tournament in 2006.
>
--- End Quote ---
I read that this morning and I also posted this week asking the
question. Why do we have to get our news from outside sources
all the time and never from Stony Brook University first? This
school is always so secretive about posting news to the public
[/quote]
This is certainly not the official reason, or even the only one,
but SBU loves giving Newsday an exclusive of breaking news, or
any news really. Makes them feel more important when a paper
like Newsday reports first on the matter. Stroking their tiny
ass ego
#Post#: 35221--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: Hammertime
Date: January 20, 2022, 1:24 pm
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--- Quote from: AirTurn link ---
>
> [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=850.msg35217#msg35217
date=1642705432]
> [quote author=OldSeawolf link=topic=850.msg35216#msg35216
date=1642705104]
> Newsday posted this story on us moving over to CAA yesterday.
Here's the text, for those who don't subscribe:
>
===============================================================================
>
>
> By Roger Rubin
> roger.rubin@newsday.com @rogrubin
> Updated January 19, 2022 8:32 PM
>
> There already is a simmering Long Island men’s basketball
rivalry between Stony Brook and Hofstra. Prepare for the heat to
get turned up.
>
> Stony Brook is involved in conversations and negotiations to
leave the America East Conference and join the Colonial Athletic
Association, where Hofstra competes. An announcement could come
as soon as next week. The transition to the CAA could start as
soon as the next school year.
>
> "We have been in discussions with the CAA," Stony Brook
athletic director Shawn Heilbron said in a text message.
>
> Stony Brook’s football program already competes in the
formidable CAA as part of the Football Champion Subdivision,
where several teams annually make the NCAA playoffs. However,
its other teams compete in the America East.
>
> According to published reports, Stony Brook is only one piece
of the puzzle. The CAA also is looking to bring on Monmouth from
the Metro Atlantic and Hampton from the Big South.
>
> The move would be geared largely toward men’s basketball.
Other schools could be in play, among them Albany of the America
East and Iona of the Metro Atlantic. To add coach Rick Pitino’s
Gaels would be considered an impressive addition.
>
> The America East and the Colonial have rarely gotten more than
its conference champion into the lucrative NCAA men’s basketball
tournament.
> Get stories, photos and videos about your favorite New York
teams in your inbox every morning.
>
> In 2006 the George Mason team that made the run to the Final
Four was an at-large bid after it lost to Hofstra in the CAA
semifinal. UNC Wilmington won the final and got the automatic
bid.
>
> The CAA appears to be making a bid to become more of a
multi-bid conference; its television broadcast rights could be
considerably more valuable if it is viewed as more than a
one-bid conference.
>
> It does not appear Hofstra has voiced resistance to the
addition of another Long Island school. CAA commissioner Joe
D’Antonio told Newsday on Wednesday night "Hofstra has been very
supportive of plans for conference expansion."
>
> Hofstra athletic director Rick Cole Jr. said, "We have a deep
commitment to our conference and we are enthusiastic about
anything that is in its best interests."
>
> The CAA has a contract to hold its men’s basketball tournament
in Washington for the next two seasons. With the addition of New
York area schools, the conference could be eyeing a New York
venue for its premier event, including the new UBS Arena, where
the Islanders play and where St. John’s already has played a
men’s basketball game.
>
> The Colonial’s move is not yet complete, although an
announcement may be forthcoming. The addition of other schools
with the potential for a high profile — Pitino’s Gaels play
games at Madison Square Garden — could loom as very attractive.
>
> Should Hampton be a part of the expansion, it would have to
commit considerable resources to upgrading it football program.
The Pirates last played in an NCAA football tournament in 2006.
>
--- End Quote ---
I read that this morning and I also posted this week asking the
question. Why do we have to get our news from outside sources
all the time and never from Stony Brook University first? This
school is always so secretive about posting news to the public
[/quote]
This is certainly not the official reason, or even the only one,
but SBU loves giving Newsday an exclusive of breaking news, or
any news really. Makes them feel more important when a paper
like Newsday reports first on the matter. Stroking their tiny
ass ego
[/quote]
Oh' pleeeeeeeeeease!!!!
#Post#: 35226--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
Date: January 20, 2022, 4:43 pm
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The Newsday article is the first I've heard of Albany tagging
along. I'd rather leave them behind. I'd bring Vermont along
first. As difficult as they've been to defeat on the court,
they're an extremely strong basketball program and would open up
the CAA to being a two bid league. I don't think they come along
though.
Message board conspiracy theories say that by taking Hampton and
Monmouth, the CAA is forcing the Big South's hand. The Big South
will need to backfill with ideally HBCU schools, thus opening
the door for the CAA to grab Howard as well. I'd be happier than
a pig in s**t if the CAA was able to get Howard also. That would
give me a super easy game to attend each year for basketball and
every other year for football.
#Post#: 35227--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stony Brook in the America East
DIR By: iBOsbu
Date: January 20, 2022, 5:16 pm
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Agreed re Howard. They are a good academic school, high
endowment, prestigious, influential HBCU. Would be nice to add
DC to other big cities Boston, Philly, etc. UNCG would be
another nice add. We can divide the 14 teams along proper
north/south geographical location. Current 12 teams 2 divisions
plan would force one of Towson or Delaware to move southern
division.
Not sure about Vermont. I think I have had enough. Ready to
fold. I gave them credit. And don’t want to see them
again.
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