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       #Post#: 30429--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 13, 2020, 4:44 am
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       --- Quote from: VA_Seawolf link ---
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       > So you're telling me over the course of two days we lose three
       starters, in addition to Latimer, Otchere, and others? What the
       actual f***....
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       >
       > Virus or not, I'd have to say this is falling on Geno Ford.
       The man is not only inept at coaching, he can't even keep a
       roster together. Forget about the virus for a moment. If there's
       no college basketball next year that will effect everyone, not
       just SBU. So unless these kids are going pro overseas all at the
       same time (not happening) this falls squarely on the shoulders
       of Ford. I'm REALLY regretting not pulling in a better coach
       from the outside after Boals left. This has been nothing short
       of disaster save for a couple OOC games here or there.
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       > I don't know a thing about the transfers we've brought in, so
       outside of Gueye and TSM, I'm not sure what we have for next
       year (if there even is a next year). I'm pissed  >:(
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       > Ford's gotta go, and based on the timing Coach P might be out
       the door along with him (lol yeah right a man can wish).
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       Exactly what I have been advocating for so long. I knew from day
       one Geno Ford was not a good coach. It was very easy to Stony
       brook to just promote Ford from assistant coach to HC when Boals
       left. It cost money to do a national search for a new coach,
       something apparently SB didn't have or dint want to do at that
       time. Big mistake.
       As far as coach P is concerned. he should have been canned many
       years ago. Thats  story for another day.
       Some people are talking about SB going into the A-10 WAC,
       etc..... That's not going to happen. Look how unstable this
       university is lately. Why would a conference take  chance with
       us when there are other schools from the midmajors that are a
       better fit..
       #Post#: 30430--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 13, 2020, 4:52 am
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       Just curious. Does anybody know what is going on with UA or
       Binghampton lately. Are they going through a transfer craze like
       SB is. What about all the other America East schools. Can
       somebody look into this please. lets see if this is a broad base
       issue or just isolated .
       #Post#: 30431--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: May 13, 2020, 7:08 am
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       im definitely starting to gravitate towards the "we need to
       leave the AE thing".  i have been for a while now.
       but i know that there's more to it- money, contracts, expenses,
       facilities, visibility, academics, etc.  it's just not that
       easy.
       it's hard to stay positive right now but im sure if bball is
       even on come november, i'll probably find a way to get excited
       about this program.
       #Post#: 30434--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Checkmate
       Date: May 13, 2020, 10:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Hammertime link ---
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       > Just curious. Does anybody know what is going on with UA or
       Binghampton lately. Are they going through a transfer craze like
       SB is. What about all the other America East schools. Can
       somebody look into this please. lets see if this is a broad base
       issue or just isolated .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Transfer count per VC ...
       Stony Brook 7
       Albany 4
       Lowell 4
       UNH 3
       Maine 2
       Binghamton 2
       Hartford 0
       Vermont 0
       So seven from SBU. And 15 from the other eight schools.
       #Post#: 30435--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Hammertime
       Date: May 13, 2020, 10:19 am
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       --- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
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       > [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=846.msg30430#msg30430
       date=1589363578]
       > Just curious. Does anybody know what is going on with UA or
       Binghampton lately. Are they going through a transfer craze like
       SB is. What about all the other America East schools. Can
       somebody look into this please. lets see if this is a broad base
       issue or just isolated .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Transfer count per VC ...
       Stony Brook 7
       Albany 4
       Lowell 4
       UNH 3
       Maine 2
       Binghamton 2
       Hartford 0
       Vermont 0
       So seven from SBU. And 15 from the other eight schools.
       [/quote]
       Thank you for that update. Clearly there is an underlying issue
       here at SB. Lowell has problems too. Part of it is the AE
       conference and part of it is the university problems.
       #Post#: 30436--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: OldSeawolf
       Date: May 13, 2020, 10:29 am
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       --- Quote from: Checkmate link ---
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       > [quote author=Hammertime link=topic=846.msg30430#msg30430
       date=1589363578]
       > Just curious. Does anybody know what is going on with UA or
       Binghampton lately. Are they going through a transfer craze like
       SB is. What about all the other America East schools. Can
       somebody look into this please. lets see if this is a broad base
       issue or just isolated .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Transfer count per VC ...
       Stony Brook 7
       Albany 4
       Lowell 4
       UNH 3
       Maine 2
       Binghamton 2
       Hartford 0
       Vermont 0
       So seven from SBU. And 15 from the other eight schools.
       [/quote]
       Interesting.  So the next question is, what is Vermont doing
       that we're not to retain their best players?
       #Post#: 30438--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: Chairman of the Board
       Date: May 13, 2020, 10:50 am
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       my opinion?
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       tuition aside (and that's a big one, but consider scholarships
       since we are talking athletics here), choose where you'd rather
       go to class:
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       #Post#: 30445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: OldSeawolf
       Date: May 13, 2020, 1:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chairman of the Board link ---
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       > my opinion?
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       > tuition aside (and that's a big one, but consider scholarships
       since we are talking athletics here), choose where you'd rather
       go to class:
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       >
       >
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       Looks like the Lecture Hall hasn't had a facelift since I
       graduated back in the 1920's :)
       #Post#: 30446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: NoVA_Seawolf
       Date: May 13, 2020, 1:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: OldSeawolf link ---
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       > [quote author=Chairman of the Board
       link=topic=846.msg30438#msg30438 date=1589385001]
       > my opinion?
  HTML http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/making-sb-better-idea-thread/
       >
       > tuition aside (and that's a big one, but consider scholarships
       since we are talking athletics here), choose where you'd rather
       go to class:
       >
       >
       >
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       --- End Quote ---
       Looks like the Lecture Hall hasn't had a facelift since I
       graduated back in the 1920's :)
       [/quote]
       lol. The whole campus is from the Cold War era, so everything
       save for the new buildings we've built in the last 15 years or
       so has that Cold War era ready for nuclear war with the Soviet
       Union type of look to it.
       #Post#: 30449--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
   DIR By: guest369
       Date: May 13, 2020, 1:33 pm
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       For the record, Javits does look better today, but... yeah. Of
       course, we'd need money to fix things, but of course Cuomo won't
       give anything to us.
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